For First Time, More Singles In U.S. Than Married Couples

[MrPickins]

That was then and this is now.

Fair enough.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yes I am in a rut and thank you for your concern.

What really pisses me off is how my exwife can lie to the kids. If you tell someone something long enough they start to believe it.

No matter how much I love my kids and try to spend time with them, they spent most of their time with my ex. My crazy exwife who would go into screaming rage fits played a large roll in shaping their opinions.

First she gets the kids, then she gets half of everything you worked for, then she poisons the kids minds. When the kids will not have anything to do with you, your ex talks to the kids about having their "new" daddy adopt them. I never had a problem with adoption threats as my greedy exwife loved the child support payments.

In the long run dads get screwed out of having a relationship with the kids, screwed over with child support, emotionally devastated and for what? Because we were "supposed" to get married and have kids?

With the interent young men see the problems older men go through. Young men say no way am I going there. So they decide not to get married or have kids. Good for them. Save yourself the heartache and money.

As long as gays can't marry, then it stays sacred and keeps the 'traditional' definition, though.



My exwife had to pay me $300/month in child support until she lost her job. You guys are marrying (and divorcing) the wrong women.

 

[MrPickins]

Its fair so long as you ignore the part about his wife cheating on him while he is deployed in the military.

I guess by your logic those Middle Eastern countries that stick rapists and rape victims in jail for fornication have perfectly "fair" laws as well.

Yeah, I ignored that part because I didn't feel like explaining how the TX courts can take fault into consideration when dividing assets if the divorce is not filed as no-fault.

My point stands: in a no-fault divorce, 50/50 split is as fair as it gets.

 

[nehalem256]

As long as gays can't marry, then it stays sacred and keeps the 'traditional' definition, though.

You do realize the same people that pushed normalizing divorce and having bastard children are the most ardent supporters of same-sex marriage right?

 

[zanejohnson]

I feel for you.

Stories like that and we wonder why less men want to get married? The law is tilted against us.

Woman wants child support, she gets a free lawyer.

Man wants to see his kids, we have to hire a lawyer.


That was then and this is now.

I wanted kids, a lot of kids. We only had 4 while I wanted a couple of more.

My ex had her tubes tied after the birth of our 4th besides my objection. Then she gets mad when I leave her?

it's amazing the things that make good relationships go to shit, but the heart wants what it wants..

with my ex, we actually had an amazing relationship, we so rarely fought about anything, we were best friends, it was the golden time of my life.... the time with her, and when we were a family.

if only i could have stopped stupid fucking drug addict Zane from being a complete fuckhead..
that's what ended us.... we were gonna get clean, and it was going ok, i relapsed a couple of times, and then one bad night i relapsed hard, and wrecked my car, after the hospital, like literally the day after i got home, came the sheriffs.... and that was the end of that chapter of my life..


now i'm not a junkie addict, but it took losing all of that...all of that.

i just wanna hug my kids soon.

I have a friend, with a simalar situation as mine, except, his son ended up coming to live with him a few years after they split.... he still pays child support, if he didn't, it's a freaking felony! "criminal unsupport."

 

[Texashiker]

My exwife had to pay me $300/month in child support until she lost her job. You guys are marrying (and divorcing) the wrong women.

Did your wife go to jail when she could not make her payments?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I have a friend, with a simalar situation as mine, except, his son ended up coming to live with him a few years after they split.... he still pays child support, if he didn't, it's a freaking felony! "criminal unsupport."

He should seek legal custody of his son and then the child support requirement would go away.

 

[Texashiker]

He should seek legal custody of his son and then the child support requirement would go away.

Uh,, yea.

When the child support office is representing a woman they are like a meat grinder.

When the child support finds out a man has custody, they turn into a wet noodle.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You do realize the same people that pushed normalizing divorce and having bastard children are the most ardent supporters of same-sex marriage right?

I imagine homosexuals are the most ardent supporters of same-sex marriage. They are to blame for normalizing divorce and having bastard children? I doubt that, seeing as they couldn't marry historically, nor are they probably having nearly as many children since they are attracted to members of the same sex.

Did your wife go to jail when she could not make her payments?

No, but I didn't get the law involved. In fact I told her not to pay me until she got back on her feet. She eventually took a lower paying job and got the support more or less eliminated, I didn't fight it. You would probably consider her a feminist. She's well educated and has a career. Maybe someone like that has a different outlook vs. a woman who feels she is just supposed to be at home dropping out babies on command.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Uh,, yea.

When the child support office is representing a woman they are like a meat grinder.

When the child support finds out a man has custody, they turn into a wet noodle.

I know you're supper butthurt and have the worse case of chapped ass/octorectitus. What does that have to do with a man getting custody and being able to stop making child support payments to child's mother?

 

[nehalem256]

No, but I didn't get the law involved. In fact I told her not to pay me until she got back on her feet. She eventually took a lower paying job and got the support more or less eliminated, I didn't fight it. You would probably consider her a feminist. She's well educated and has a career. Maybe someone like that has a different outlook vs. a woman who feels she is just supposed to be at home dropping out babies on command.

So much for women having to support their kids huh?

 

[SlowSpyder]

So much for women having to support their kids huh?

But she did, at least as far as the law was concerned. I had a debit card from the state, she payed $300 a month to them, they put the money on the card. I just gave her back the money (minus a few dollars to help pay for insurance, since that is through my employer) after she made the payment. At the time of our divorce she made about twice what I made, we have 50/50 placement. There are plenty of negative things I could say about her, but being a bad mother is not one of them. She does a lot for our son, we both do, that's how it should be (especially in divorce, the kids should be top priority).

 

[zephyrprime]

The relation between the sexes these days is completely whacked and the low rate of marriage is indicative of that. Men need to wake up and women need to have their antisocial tendencies checked by the state and by their men. Mark my words, this will lead to population decline which will be one of the greatest issues of the day in the 2050s.

 

[Victorian Gray]

What do you expect when the government passes laws that favor women? Why would anyone want to pay alimony until their ex-spouse remarries, or get ran through the child support meat grinder?

If I was 20 years old again, I would never get married or have kids.

Screw having to spend thousands on a divorce, or $10K+ to fight to even see your kids. Save yourself the heartache and never get married or have kids.

Grow up. Boohoo, you had a bad first marriage. Move on.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Income inequality plays a roll in fewer children being born.

During a recession birthrates drop. Look at Russia, they have a negative birthrate. In Russia more people are dying than being born.




The womens rights movement has played a roll in decreased birthrates. Staying home and raising kids is looked down upon by femenist.

National Organization for Women:

"Mothers Are Feminists Too"

http://now.org/blog/14555/

"Discrimination Against Mothers Is Discrimination Against Women"

http://now.org/blog/discrimination-against-mothers-is-discrimination-against-women/

"My Mother’s Story"

http://now.org/blog/my-mother-s-story/

 

[Texashiker]

Grow up. Boohoo, you had a bad first marriage. Move on.

Let me guess, not only have you never owned a home, never had a drivers license, but you also have never been married?

 

[squarecut1]

Yes I am in a rut and thank you for your concern.

What really pisses me off is how my exwife can lie to the kids. If you tell someone something long enough they start to believe it.

No matter how much I love my kids and try to spend time with them, they spent most of their time with my ex. My crazy exwife who would go into screaming rage fits played a large roll in shaping their opinions.

First she gets the kids, then she gets half of everything you worked for, then she poisons the kids minds. When the kids will not have anything to do with you, your ex talks to the kids about having their "new" daddy adopt them. I never had a problem with adoption threats as my greedy exwife loved the child support payments.

In the long run dads get screwed out of having a relationship with the kids, screwed over with child support, emotionally devastated and for what? Because we were "supposed" to get married and have kids?

What she has been doing will come back to her. What goes around comes around. It always does, in some way or another.

The kids will eventually realize the lies.

Your resentment and anger is understandable. But I would second the Doc Savage advice about volunteer work. And try to have patience, as hard as it may be.

 

[alzan]

I wanted kids, a lot of kids. We only had 4 while I wanted a couple of more.

Besides my objection my ex had her tubes tied after the birth of our 4th. Then she gets mad when I leave her?

She squirted out four puppies for you, count yourself lucky; some couples try for years and never have any or pay five figures or more just to have one.

I find it hard to believe that she had her tubes tied without your knowledge and/or agreement.

 

[Pulsar]

Been through 2 divorces in my life, one before I was 2, and one 2 years ago. It's a bitch and my sister has to live with it, too. D:

You married then divorced your sister?

 

[Greenman]

It's pretty funny that just when gay's start getting the right to marry, straight people are giving it up.

 

[nehalem256]

She squirted out four puppies for you, count yourself lucky; some couples try for years and never have any or pay five figures or more just to have one.

I find it hard to believe that she had her tubes tied without your knowledge and/or agreement.

You do realize that knowledge and agreement are 2 radically different things right?

It's pretty funny that just when gay's start getting the right to marry, straight people are giving it up.

Its actually not funny at all. Destruction of marriage as a valuable societal institution is pretty much a prerequisite for same-sex marriage to make any kind of sense at all.

 

[brianmanahan]

So I take it you don't really have a clue.

How many kids do YOU have?

nehalem256, you didnt answer this very valid question

 

[brianmanahan]

Just look at the single center minded dolts that post in here.

nobody's posts are as self centered as yours

how a woman could put with you for 30 minutes let alone 30 years is beyond me

 

[Victorian Gray]

Let me guess, not only have you never owned a home, never had a drivers license, but you also have never been married?

What does my owning or not owning a home, having or not having a driver's license, or my marriage status at any point in my life have to do with anything?

You apparently made a bad choice in marriage (or she made the bad choice or both of you made a bad choice). It didn't work. Too bad, so sad. Like the millions of others who make bad choices in their lives, it's time to move on. You are no special snow flake. Get over it.

 

[Paratus]

You do realize that knowledge and agreement are 2 radically different things right?



Its actually not funny at all. Destruction of marriage as a valuable societal institution is pretty much a prerequisite for same-sex marriage to make any kind of sense at all.

Of course no one who's not an intolerant misogynist with mommy issues actually believes that.

Judges don't (start at the bottom of page 8 and keep reading)
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2014/D09-04/C:14-2388:Josner:aut:T:fnOp:N:1412338:S:0

Neither do the states attorney's general who are trying to keep it illegal:

Notably the state does not argue that recognizing same-sex marriage undermines conventional marriage.

But you keep using that busted ol' argument. We've come to expect it from you.