For First Time, More Singles In U.S. Than Married Couples

[nehalem256]

I've paid into those my whole life. It isn't my responsibility to have kids just to make sure it is funded for the next X decades.

Next question?

So I take it you don't really understand how social security works.

 

[Dannar26]

But women have it so baaad!!

 

[Nebor]

I'm in agreement with IndyColtsFan. Neither my brother nor I ever wanted kids. He's been married for 10 years to a woman who also doesn't want kids. We've both had vasectomies. We had perfectly happy childhoods, raised in an upper class home. He actually sort of likes kids, but only in small doses. I can't stand being around them.

I recognize that shrinking birth rates are catastrophic for economies. The result will be an increase in immigration from the third world to fill the gaps. The result of that is a huge brain drain on the third world, leaving them even worse off than they were before. Not to mention the gradual erosion of the culture that we know as our own. But to be fair, our culture is responsible for it's own demise.

 

[bshole]

If I was 20 years old again, I would never get married or have kids.

I really envy your kids. They must have had wonderful childhoods. Out of curiousity how often do you remind them that you regret they were born?

 

[Texashiker]

I really envy your kids. They must have had wonderful childhoods. Out of curiousity how often do you remind them that you regret they were born?

Never.

My personal feelings are none of their business.

 

[nehalem256]

I really envy your kids. They must have had wonderful childhoods. Out of curiousity how often do you remind them that you regret they were born?

He doesn't have to. His ex-wife does it for him

My divorce took around a year and a half, cost close to $8k, then my exwife poisoned my kids minds with all kinds of lies. She told my kids I wanted her to abort them, and how I never wanted kids, told them I never worked, just flat out lies.

^_^

 

[squarecut1]

Yes, the laws are messed up and very unfair to men. That does have create a disincentive to marry and have kids. It is really quite unfair to men.

Regards the women who have kids from multiple guys and collect a nice large total sum in child support - there is nobody who puts a gun to the head of any man to impregnate such women.

 

[Nebor]

I really envy your kids. They must have had wonderful childhoods. Out of curiousity how often do you remind them that you regret they were born?

I find this to be the worst catch 22 from the people encouraging everyone to have kids. It always starts with, "You'll never know how great it is to have kids until you have them! You're missing out!" But once you have them and don't like them, where are they then? They just call you a monster for not liking your kids.

 

[squarecut1]

The result will be an increase in immigration from the third world to fill the gaps. The result of that is a huge brain drain on the third world, leaving them even worse off than they were before.

The top talent from third world has been emigrating to America for quite some time now. In so many fields, if not most of them, so many top people are immigrants. America benefits from the talents of other countries, but it leaves those countries and ultimately the world, worse off.

 

[bshole]

I find this to be the worst catch 22 from the people encouraging everyone to have kids. It always starts with, "You'll never know how great it is to have kids until you have them! You're missing out!" But once you have them and don't like them, where are they then? They just call you a monster for not liking your kids.

Dude I have kids and they are the world to me. The entire whole fucking world. I absolutely cannot identify with what you are saying.

 

[Nebor]

Dude I have kids and they are the world to me. The entire whole fucking world. I absolutely cannot identify with what you are saying.

Just google "I regret having kids" or "I wish I never had kids." There are plenty of people out there that feel that way. Due to the huge negative perception of such feelings, I imagine there are many times more people than vocalize it.

 

[Texashiker]

Dude I have kids and they are the world to me. The entire whole fucking world. I absolutely cannot identify with what you are saying.

You love your kids until you and your wife divorce and she poisons their minds.

Then your kids blame you for all the bad stuff that happened to their mom, blame you for the divorce, stop coming around because you are a sorry piece of crap,,,,.

All the while you have to pay child support, medical insurance, half of medical bills while rarely seeing your kids.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You love your kids until you and your wife divorce and she poisons their minds.

Then your kids blame you for all the bad stuff that happened to their mom, blame you for the divorce, stop coming around because you are a sorry piece of crap,,,,.

All the while you have to pay child support, medical insurance, half of medical bills while rarely seeing your kids.

What's done is done. Perhaps it's time to for you to move on and make a better life for yourself. You seem to be in a rut with resentment...so get out of it. Do volunteer work, join Parents Without Partners, something social, anything! It'll be a little tough at first, but you'll likely be a much happier person for it.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

So I take it you don't really understand how social security works.

So I take it you don't really have a clue.

How many kids do YOU have?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Dude I have kids and they are the world to me. The entire whole fucking world. I absolutely cannot identify with what you are saying.

I won't speak for Nebor, but I will give my own perspective. My situation is a little different from others because my mom and dad adopted a toddler (who was the child of my mom's cousin) when I was in my early 20s. I *LOVE* kids and even though he was technically my brother, I was kind of like a second dad to him or probably more accurately, could play the role of grandfather -- I got all the good times and didn't have to deal with the bad.

My perspective is that you only live once and there are so many things to do and see in this world that you owe it to yourself to stay true to yourself and live your one life the way you want. We've chosen to travel the world and engage in other activities rather than have kids. Yes, educated people not having kids might be a problem for nations down the road, but it really isn't my purpose in life to prop up economies and provide taxpayers. By experiencing my brother growing up, I've already experienced the life of a child becoming an adult.

 

[BoberFett]

Dude I have kids and they are the world to me. The entire whole fucking world. I absolutely cannot identify with what you are saying.

Considering what a moron you are, it's not surprising that your brain can't wrap around the fact that other people might disagree with you. Your tiny, useless brain is stretched to it's limits just thinking about your kids.

 

[Texashiker]

What's done is done. Perhaps it's time to for you to move on and make a better life for yourself. You seem to be in a rut with resentment...so get out of it. Do volunteer work, join Parents Without Partners, something social, anything! It'll be a little tough at first, but you'll likely be a much happier person for it.

Yes I am in a rut and thank you for your concern.

What really pisses me off is how my exwife can lie to the kids. If you tell someone something long enough they start to believe it.

No matter how much I love my kids and try to spend time with them, they spent most of their time with my ex. My crazy exwife who would go into screaming rage fits played a large roll in shaping their opinions.

First she gets the kids, then she gets half of everything you worked for, then she poisons the kids minds. When the kids will not have anything to do with you, your ex talks to the kids about having their "new" daddy adopt them. I never had a problem with adoption threats as my greedy exwife loved the child support payments.

In the long run dads get screwed out of having a relationship with the kids, screwed over with child support, emotionally devastated and for what? Because we were "supposed" to get married and have kids?

With the interent young men see the problems older men go through. Young men say no way am I going there. So they decide not to get married or have kids. Good for them. Save yourself the heartache and money.

 

[theeedude]

Real estate is overpriced again in our area, married or not.

 

[zanejohnson]

it makes me kind of sad that me and the mother of my kids didnt make it work.....never got married....




but.....after reading some of these posts....maybe it was a blessing in disguise.

 

[zanejohnson]

Yes I am in a rut and thank you for your concern.

What really pisses me off is how my exwife can lie to the kids. If you tell someone something long enough they start to believe it.

No matter how much I love my kids and try to spend time with them, they spent most of their time with my ex. My crazy exwife who would go into screaming rage fits played a large roll in shaping their opinions.

First she gets the kids, then she gets half of everything you worked for, then she poisons the kids minds. When the kids will not have anything to do with you, your ex talks to the kids about having their "new" daddy adopt them. I never had a problem with adoption threats as my greedy exwife loved the child support payments.

In the long run dads get screwed out of having a relationship with the kids, screwed over with child support, emotionally devastated and for what? Because we were "supposed" to get married and have kids?

With the interent young men see the problems older men go through. Young men say no way am I going there. So they decide not to get married or have kids. Good for them. Save yourself the heartache and money.

i feel ya, even though we never got married we lived together for five years, and until my daughters were 4 and 2.....i got busted and did some time (short time)... when i got out she was gone, i've only seen them twice since then she let me come pick them up twice. twice. and then moved with her new man and wont give me the address.... i send them constant letters, birthday cards, etc, to her father's address, i've fallen behind in child support the last couple years because she simply, wont let me see them. my taxes are garnished. no such thing as a return for me for 13 more years....

i love my daughters. i would sacrifice my entire anything for them... i guess that's what i've done. as trying to make contact (and i try, at least once a month)....i know her new husband tells them i'm good for nothing, i dont even know if they see my correspondence..

but i try to be wise, think wise, they are gonna get older and wonder about their father. and i'll be here. with open arms, i'm going to give them every single thing they want when it comes that time, i'm gonna have alot of making up to do.

 

[MrPickins]

About the obvious bias of the law. What kind of fucked up country makes it so a woman can run off with another man while you are serving your country and still be entitled to half your stuff?

Texas is a community property state. 50/50 split is how it's done, and is as fair as it gets, IMO.

Bias not found.

 

[MrPickins]

She told my kids I wanted her to abort them, and how I never wanted kids, told them I never worked, just flat out lies.

If I was 20 years old again, I would never get married or have kids.

:whiste:

 

[Texashiker]

but i try to be wise, think wise, they are gonna get older and wonder about their father. and i'll be here. with open arms, i'm going to give them every single thing they want when it comes that time, i'm gonna have alot of making up to do.

I feel for you.

Stories like that and we wonder why less men want to get married? The law is tilted against us.

Woman wants child support, she gets a free lawyer.

Man wants to see his kids, we have to hire a lawyer.

:whiste:

That was then and this is now.

I wanted kids, a lot of kids. We only had 4 while I wanted a couple of more.

Besides my objection my ex had her tubes tied after the birth of our 4th. Then she gets mad when I leave her?

 

[nehalem256]

Texas is a community property state. 50/50 split is how it's done, and is as fair as it gets, IMO.

Bias not found.

Its fair so long as you ignore the part about his wife cheating on him while he is deployed in the military.

I guess by your logic those Middle Eastern countries that stick rapists and rape victims in jail for fornication have perfectly "fair" laws as well.

 

[Sonikku]

I feel for you.

Stories like that and we wonder why less men want to get married? The law is tilted against us.

Woman wants child support, she gets a free lawyer.

Man wants to see his kids, we have to hire a lawyer.

Women get all the breaks.