For better or worse - San Franciscans are done with masks in schools

[pete6032]

S.F. voters overwhelmingly supported the ouster of three school board members Tuesday in the city’s first recall election in nearly 40 years.

San Francisco recalls 3 members of city’s school board

San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the…

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the pandemic.

Voters overwhelmingly approved the recall in a special election, according to tallies by the San Francisco Department of Elections.

“The voters of this city have delivered a clear message that the school board must focus on the essentials of delivering a well-run school system above all else,” Mayor London Breed said in a statement. “San Francisco is a city that believes in the value of big ideas, but those ideas must be built on the foundation of a government that does the essentials well.”

Breed will now appoint board replacements to serve until another election in November.

The election was the first recall in San Francisco since 1983, since a failed attempt to remove then-Mayor Dianne Feinstein.
Parents in the politically liberal city launched the recall effort in January 2021 out of frustration over the slow reopening of district schools, while the board pursued the renaming of 44 school sites and the elimination of competitive admissions at the elite Lowell High School.

What do you think? Are parents of school age children angry about the pandemic and mask requirements? Or is it something else?

Hard to draw conclusions from one election but does this represent the turn against mask mandates in schools?

 

[fskimospy]

Mask mandates in schools are stupid.

 

[shortylickens]

i think when it came out that cloth masks are junk and paper masks should not be hoarded by the general public, people got fed up with the mask game. Even the uber liberal who blindly followed everything the CDC ordered.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Mask mandates in schools are stupid.

Why?

 

[Fenixgoon]

what i find hilarious is that kids don't seem to have issues masking up. adults, on the other hand, do.

 

[shortylickens]

Why?

I know the argument people use.
Its cuz kids have the highest likelihood of surviving COVID.
ITS NOT 100 percent. And any decent parent would not take the risk. But this nation is filled with shitty parents.
Also, children can spread it. Theres dozens of stories in the news about rugrats bringing it home and killing all 4 of their grandparents.

For the 500th time people: ITS AN AIRBORNE DISEASE!!!!

 

[Moonbeam]

Mask mandates in schools are stupid.

So true. The masks could save Grandma and Grandpa whereas killing them off will help the homeless move into their places.

I drive by several schools on a regular basis and even in conservative areas the kids keep their masks on leaving school and walking home. Seems to me like kids are far more flexible than adults

 

[sportage]

I guess I must admit..... THEY WON!
I never thought masks or vaccines as such a bad thing, considering it a patriotic duty like conserving water during a drought or sacrificing durning WWII or feeding the poor during the great depression. But when it comes to wearing masks, that crossed the line for most Americans, and I don't really get it because after all... masks "were" temporary and masks did help slow the spread of covid transmission, plus slowing down colds and flu as well.

I will never understand what the big deal was with wearing a simple mask? Was it a Chinese thing? Or Japanese thing? Did people confuse masks with communism? Michael Jackson often wore a mask, and we loved Michael Jackson.

But like I said, they won and we lost. Masks lost and common sense lost as well. And patriotism or to be patriotic went out the window. Masks were so associated with freedom that you'd have thought the founding fathers would have included an entire section on masks alone when they wrote the US constitution. If they had only foreseen, THE RIGHt TO BEAR MASKS.

 

[lsd]

I know the argument people use.
Its cuz kids have the highest likelihood of surviving COVID.
ITS NOT 100 percent. And any decent parent would not take the risk. But this nation is filled with shitty parents.
Also, children can spread it. Theres dozens of stories in the news about rugrats bringing it home and killing all 4 of their grandparents.

For the 500th time people: ITS AN AIRBORNE DISEASE!!!!

And in how many of your stories was the entire family fully vaccinated?
If a vaccine that's 100x effective can't stop a virus from killing you, do you think a cheap mask that can only filter 10-30% will work?

 

[Zor Prime]

S.F. voters overwhelmingly supported the ouster of three school board members Tuesday in the city’s first recall election in nearly 40 years.

San Francisco recalls 3 members of city’s school board

San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the…

www.kron4.com

What do you think? Are parents of school age children angry about the pandemic and mask requirements?

Partly because to most people the pandemic is over and now things to these people look an awful lot like authoritarianism. People are stressed, that's really it, it's not complicated, it's no more or any less than that. For this to occur in a bastion of the left is pretty telling, IMO.

 

[Bitek]

A. Masking kids in school, especially at this point in the pandemic, is pretty useless and not worth the cost.

I've said before how CA had been particularly extreme in their approach. This clearly leads to backlash.

B. From what I read, this particular SB was particularly distracted by fighting social issues. Eg renaming schools, meanwhile getting distracted from actually focusing on providing quality education

C. Discussed moving away from a merit based system for the elite schools, which pissed off all the Asians.

Not sure why you would keep them really. Haven't proved particularly effective at their jobs

 

[ch33zw1z]

MA is loosening up in March as well. We're all just learning to cope a bit better, at the stage of acceptance it would seem

 

[Leeea]

These idiots were more interested in renaming schools then dealing with covid problems.

That said, the time for masks are over. Everyone can get a vaccine now.

 

[Fenixgoon]

These idiots were more interested in renaming schools then dealing with covid problems.

That said, the time for masks are over. Everyone can get a vaccine now.

Children under 5 can't.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Partly because to most people the pandemic is over and now things to these people look an awful lot like authoritarianism. People are stressed, that's really it, it's not complicated, it's no more or any less than that. For this to occur in a bastion of the left is pretty telling, IMO.

Is it? 2600 people died yesterday from covid. Positivity rates may be falling like a rock, but the deaths are continuing to stack up.

 

[emperus]

Republican propaganda wins out again. I was with my niece and nephew yesterday. I watched them have 0 issue adjusting and keeping their mask on. Just went around their business. I think the mandates made sense ars kids are probably the weakest link when it comes to virus transmission. Even if they aren't effected, it doesn't mean they can't be a vector for broader transmission. It's actually pretty stupid to lift it now, until at least the cases are fully down.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Is it? 2600 people died yesterday from covid. Positivity rates may be falling like a rock, but the deaths are continuing to stack up.

A 9/11 every day, what a waste.

 

[fskimospy]

So true. The masks could save Grandma and Grandpa whereas killing them off will help the homeless move into their places.

I drive by several schools on a regular basis and even in conservative areas the kids keep their masks on leaving school and walking home. Seems to me like kids are far more flexible than adults

Well we know that would surely be preferable to building more houses, so I imagine you agree.

 

[fskimospy]

Why?

They are the area where mask wearing has the least benefit and the most harm. Staff should be vaccinated by mandate so they should be low risk, children themselves are very low risk, compliance is bad because they are kids, and costs to social interaction are at their highest.

If anyone is arguing for masks in schools they should be simultaneously be arguing for the closure of all bars, restaurants, etc. I don’t see people doing that.

 

[drnickriviera]

Where does the article say mask mandates were an issue?

Nightly news said the last straw was changing admissions for the high school to a lottery system from merit based. Asians got pissed and organized a campaign

 

[fskimospy]

Where does the article say mask mandates were an issue?

Nightly news said the last straw was changing admissions for the high school to a lottery system from merit based. Asians got pissed and organized a campaign

Agree, the main issue here seems to have been incompetence, not mask mandates.

School boards are also stupid by the way and should be eliminated. Put the mayor in charge of schools!

 

[manly]

Where does the article say mask mandates were an issue?

Nightly news said the last straw was changing admissions for the high school to a lottery system from merit based. Asians got pissed and organized a campaign

LOL yeah the reality had nothing to do with masking. Asian Americans in SF who voted to recall probably have amongst the highest proportion of mask wearing in the country.

 

[feralkid]

S.F. voters overwhelmingly supported the ouster of three school board members Tuesday in the city’s first recall election in nearly 40 years.

San Francisco recalls 3 members of city’s school board

San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the…

www.kron4.com

What do you think? Are parents of school age children angry about the pandemic and mask requirements? Or is it something else?

Hard to draw conclusions from one election but does this represent the turn against mask mandates in schools?

No, it had squat to do with mask mandates.

Parents in the politically liberal city launched the recall effort in January 2021 out of frustration over the slow reopening of district schools, while the board pursued the renaming of 44 school sites and the elimination of competitive admissions at the elite Lowell High School.

Please edit title to reflect the facts.

Thanks!

 

[shortylickens]

And in how many of your stories was the entire family fully vaccinated?
If a vaccine that's 100x effective can't stop a virus from killing you, do you think a cheap mask that can only filter 10-30% will work?

I dont know.
Which is ONCE AGAIN, why we dont risk it and keep our masks on when we're outside the fucking house.
It slows the spread and keeps people cleaner, longer.

And I'm not going to explain how this works again. We have whole fucking books dedicated to airborne disease.
Go read one.

(not the one written by Bill O'reilly.)

 

[fskimospy]

I dont know.
Which is ONCE AGAIN, why we dont risk it and keep our masks on when we're outside the fucking house.
It slows the spread and keeps people cleaner, longer.

And I'm not going to explain how this works again. We have whole fucking books dedicated to airborne disease.
Go read one.

(not the one written by Bill O'reilly.)

So when do we stop wearing masks in school? It sounds like the answer by this logic would be never, and that’s not an acceptable answer.

This was a mistake early on - there should have been clear metrics for when we drop NPIs and we never made them.