FOR ATOT Cheapskates: Article on the Apex DVD players and consumers

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March 7, 2004
CONSUMED
The Apex DVD Player
By ROB WALKER

hen we talk about ''aspirational'' shopping, we tend to mean the process of buying slightly above our true stations in life -- using consumption to get a little piece of luxury or pleasure. But these are not the only values that motivate us as shoppers. For instance, everybody loves a bargain. Bargain culture, says Sharon Zukin, a sociology professor and the author of ''Point of Purchase,'' a book about shopping and America, is based on ''a kind of aspirational shopping for the lowest price, rather than the highest status.''

To understand how powerful that urge can be, don't think about multipacks of paper towels or huge jars of mayonnaise. Think about DVD players -- specifically, Apex DVD players. Of the 31.1 million DVD players sold last year, roughly 10 percent were Apex models, according to the NPD Group, the retail tracker. That puts the brand in second place, just behind Sony, but the two companies could not be more different. Sony is a storied innovator, a name familiar to consumer-electronics buyers for decades as a technological leader. The Apex name -- for those who even notice it -- has been around for about five years and basically means ''bargain.''

The Apex AD-2600 ''entry level'' model goes for about $60 on Amazon.com, compared with $100 or more for a similar Sony model. This is how the Apex DVD player fits into the bargain-culture tradition that Zukin traces back to the five-and-dimes of the 1870's. Long before Costco and Wal-Mart and online discounters, stores like Woolworth's aimed at consumer rationality by displaying copious supplies of basic products at the lowest prices. ''Shopping at a discount store appeared to be both thrifty and modern,'' Zukin writes. These are values, she adds, that were (and remain) ''at the core of bargain culture.'' The aspiring bargain finder searches not for frills, but for the Deal. The real payoff, though, is not measured in dollars -since the hours the determined bargain hunter invests can easily outweigh the raw value of the money saved. As Zukin observes, the gratification comes from something harder to quantify -- the cultural capital of savvy that goes with finding a great bargain.

Globalized production strategies, however controversial they are in the political realm, have thrown bargain culture into overdrive, converting luxuries like cashmere and high-tech gizmos into affordable commodities with astonishing speed. Based in Ontario, Calif., Apex Digital was founded by two immigrants from China and Taiwan and is a thoroughly global operation: all the DVD assembly is done by subcontracted workers at a factory in Jiangsu, China, where labor costs are low. Apex has only about 100 employees on its payroll, most of them in California.

A big chunk of Apex's 2003 sales (about $1 billion) came during the run-up to Christmas -- when a kind of extreme thriftiness has come to manifest itself in virtual scrums as bargain hunters throng at low-price retailers for while-supplies-last deals. Last Christmas the Deal was often a DVD player marked down to an absurdly cheap $29, and that DVD player was often an Apex model. Marietta Schoenherz, director of public relations for Apex, explains that these actually tend to be ''customized'' versions of its lowest-end offering: ''Some partners -- and Wal-Mart might be an example -- are going to want what we call a door-buster,'' she says. ''So we're going to give them a sort of scaled-back version'' -- one, for instance, without the progressive-scan feature, which can improve picture quality -- ''and sell that to Wal-Mart. It's a loss leader to get people in the store.''

Perhaps, then, the ''bargain'' is as slippery a concept as ''luxury,'' one that is ultimately defined in the mind of the consumer. The Apex consumer seems to trust not a famous name or a chatty salesman or corporate advertising (Apex does none), but rather other consumers: the hive mind, or the will of the mob, depending on how you look at it. ''It's kind of like the stock market, or the primary campaigns -- the issue of electability,'' Zukin says. ''You're betting on other people's responses.'' The more people buy Apex players (and jostle one another at stores to get at them), the more it seems downright unthrifty to buy anything else.

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jmgonzalez

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I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.

Ooooh, I wanna brag too...oh wait, not really.
 

GroundZero

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got an apex dvd player about 2 years ago for around 50 bucks. works fine. never had a problem with it.
on the other hand my sony dvd player (150$) under a year old has been replaced 3 times so fay and has been a pain in my ass. higher price doesn't always mean higher quality...
 

BlueWeasel

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My Apex player has been working fine for a year now. I heard the horror stories about Apex, but decided to go with them because I knew playing VCD/SVCD discs wouldn't be a problem. It's definately got a "cheap" feel to it, but this $50 player has played everything I've thrown at it.
 

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Originally posted by: GroundZero
got an apex dvd player about 2 years ago for around 50 bucks. works fine. never had a problem with it.
on the other hand my sony dvd player (150$) under a year old has been replaced 3 times so fay and has been a pain in my ass. higher price doesn't always mean higher quality...

I had the misfortune of having my ($300) Sony DVD player break after a year and two months - just past the end of the warranty. I looked around on the Internet to figure out what was wrong with it and I found that a LOT of other people had the same problem I had. It was a problem that Sony knew about, but they kept manufacturing the players. Why fix the problem when most of the players don't break for 1.5-2 years?

I replaced it with a Panasonic which I'm very happy with. Bought two people Apexes for Christmas. I'd never buy another Sony POS again. Sony != quality.
 
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.

woaw.. You're an ass mr. astaroth..
 

ApacheXMD

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my first DVD player was the infamous Apex AD-600A
Still working like the day it was bought, except better thanks to firmware upgrades.

-patchy
 

beer

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.

:cookie;
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.

And I love the extra money in the bank:D

(Wait, who am I kidding, I'm a student so the only thing I could afford was the 27" Apex, $120 for the floor model at CC 2years ago;))
 

TechnoKid

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I know that some of the Akai TVs at costco are rebadged Samsungs. I think apex puts out ok products; it's hard to believe sometimes that you can get so much for so cheap, like apex's dvd palyers.
 

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
I know that some of the Akai TVs at costco are rebadged Samsungs. I think apex puts out ok products; it's hard to believe sometimes that you can get so much for so cheap, like apex's dvd palyers.

I don't think it's so much for so cheap as much as it's other companies *cough* SONY *cough* sell so little for so much because of ridiculous markups.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: GroundZero
got an apex dvd player about 2 years ago for around 50 bucks. works fine. never had a problem with it.
on the other hand my sony dvd player (150$) under a year old has been replaced 3 times so fay and has been a pain in my ass. higher price doesn't always mean higher quality...

it's widely known that Sony is crap though :p
 
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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jmgonzalez
I love my Apex 27" TV. :) Have I also mentioned my 20" Apex in my office.

Good enough to use this until we move into another house and setup a home theatre system

While you may "love" your 27" Apex TV, I *really* love my 36" Sony WEGA XBR400 and Yamaha/Klipsch HT setup.

Well, I just hope you clean the glass off before it streaks! :Q;)
 

KokomoGST

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Well, most of the "cheapskates" or Ferengis on AT are a bit more discerning than the average consumer.

We'll look for a hot deal on that great Onkyo HT system online or Panasonic TAU on clearance at Sears. For Digicams? We 0wnz digicam deals.
 

episodic

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Both my Apex DVD players I paid 42$ (year before last) for work fine till this day . . . with heavy usage . . .
 

Squisher

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Some Apex TVs have an annoying tendency to have two seconds of blank screen every you change channels.

This has always kept me from buying any of their products.

 
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Some Apex TVs have an annoying tendency to have two seconds of blank screen every you change channels.

This has always kept me from buying any of their products.

I think your keyboard had one of those blank spots.
 

waggy

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I bought a apex 500w i think. it died in 5 months. i was able to trade it in at wal-mart and get onother one. that one died in 5 months. I traded that in and got a 1100w(i think) and it died in about 6 months. i just turned it in and got my cash.

I bought a sony nc665p cd/dvd player. I wont buy cheap apex crap again. but maybe i just got a bad batch eh?
 

Compton

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The main reason I bought an Apex dvd player is because it will play every type of disc out there. My friend's expensive sony player would not play CD-Rs or DVD-R/+R.
 

spanky

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Originally posted by: Compton
The main reason I bought an Apex dvd player is because it will play every type of disc out there. My friend's expensive sony player would not play CD-Rs or DVD-R/+R.

ditto.