For all you Guitar players.....got a question about ...And Justice For All

[DaTT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfg0_FbIqqw

How does Kirk get that sound on the last note of the solo (at 5:53 ish) I would link it to that part of the song, but I just don't know how.

 

[Eli]

According to my book, it's the fifth fret on both the A and D strings with some tremolo bar action.

The note is an "x" though, and it says it's an 8va harmonic. Don't ask me what that means, I don't know anything about music. I just read tabs.

 

[Kalmah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfg0_FbIqqw

How does Kirk get that sound on the last note of the solo (at 5:53 ish) I would link it to that part of the song, but I just don't know how.

I think it's a natural harmonic with a whammy dive.

Look up natural harmonics if you don't know about them. Basically, there are several spots on the fretboard where you can produce them.
You make one by slightly touching the string directly over the fret itself. At the same moment you pick the string you remove your finger from it.

You do not push the string into the fret
Yes, your finger is actually above the fret instead of in between like usual.

I'm too lazy to pick my guitar up right now and havn't played with these for some time.. but I believe there to be one above the 12th fret on the high e string. (or somewhere nearby)

Edit: Yeah, it sounds like there are actually 2 notes playing at once (like Eli pointed out). Probably an open string and the natural harmonic together while being whammy dived.

 

[DaTT]

According to my book, it's the fifth fret on both the A and D strings with some tremolo bar action.

At first I also thought it was a dive bomb, but my guitar teacher seems to think otherwise. Possibly a little tremolo action, but he seems to think it was actually an accident in the studio, but sounded good so the kept it.

Some sort of feedback perhaps?

 

[DaTT]

I think it's a natural harmonic with a whammy dive.

Look up natural harmonics if you don't know about them. Basically, there are several spots on the fretboard where you can produce them.
You make one by slightly touching the string directly over the fret itself. At the same moment you pick the string you remove your finger from it.

You do not push the string into the fret
Yes, your finger is actually above the fret instead of in between like usual.

I'm too lazy to pick my guitar up right now and havn't played with these for some time.. but I believe there to be one above the 12th fret on the high e string. (or somewhere nearby)

Yes, the natural harmonics can be found on the 12th fret, 7th fret, 19th fret.....probably more, but those are the ones I am aware of.

 

[Gibsons]

That is sort of a weird sound, it sounds a little different live?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92miS5edOao&feature=related
at about 5:55. Maybe studio trickery for that one thing, I dunno.

 

[Kalmah]

Here are some techniques. What Alexi does 15 seconds into the video is what you are hearing I believe. (without the accompanied open string)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMvVGa65c4

 

[hiromizu]

It's just 2 simultaneous upper harmonics while doing a bomb. Nothin special.

 

[DaTT]

Here are some techniques. What Alexi does 15 seconds into the video is what you are hearing I believe. (without the accompanied open string)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMvVGa65c4

Thats a good video, I feel the urge to unblock my floyd rose bridge...

 

[Eli]

Here's what the book says.

http://home.comcast.net/~epruett3/IMG_1722_1024x768.jpg

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

It's just 2 simultaneous upper harmonics while doing a bomb. Nothin special.

This. It sounds interesting because its essentially a harmonic double-stop, so they harmonize with each other. Then, of course, he dives them down with the whammy bar.

 

[DaTT]

This. It sounds interesting because its essentially a harmonic double-stop, so they harmonize with each other. Then, of course, he dives them down with the whammy bar.

What is a harmonic double-stop?

 

[Fritzo]

What is a harmonic double-stop?

Lightly touch the B and E strings above the 5th fret, hit the strings, and press down the tremolo bar. I got a similar sound with full gain and some metal distortion.

Here's a lesson on how to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp80T9H-QIo

 

[hiromizu]

Lightly touch the B and E strings above the 5th fret, hit the strings, and press down the tremolo bar. I got a similar sound with full gain and some metal distortion.

Here's a lesson on how to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp80T9H-QIo

Better to do it on "odd" frets like the 3rd or 4th fret. The 5th fret would sound too low.

Basically you lightly bar over the 4th fret on say the G and B strings, hit the notes hard with your pick then dive bomb.

 

[Howard]

Here are some techniques. What Alexi does 15 seconds into the video is what you are hearing I believe. (without the accompanied open string)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMvVGa65c4

Dude sounds like a young Christopher Walken.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

(at 5:53 ish) I would link it to that part of the song, but I just don't know how.

Specific time..

Also, YoutubeTime.

 

[hiromizu]

test

 

[biggestmuff]

I'll take a look later. I'm at work without youtube access. :thumbsdown:

According to my book, it's the fifth fret on both the A and D strings with some tremolo bar action.

The note is an "x" though, and it says it's an 8va harmonic. Don't ask me what that means, I don't know anything about music. I just read tabs.

Here's what the book says.

http://home.comcast.net/~epruett3/IMG_1722_1024x768.jpg

That's the B and the G string.

 

[biggestmuff]

What is a harmonic double-stop?

A harmonic is plucking a string while your fretting hand's finger or fingers are lightly touching a string; not fretting the string.

A double stop is when two notes are played simultaneously. Also sometimes called a diad.

 

[Eli]

I'll take a look later. I'm at work without youtube access. :thumbsdown:





That's the B and the G string.

LOL!

Whoops. Mybad.