For all you aspiring MacGyvers - Make fire with ice!

[tweakmm]

I'm just thinking of the irony of starting fire with ice😀

 

I can make ice with fire, anyone want to try to guess how ?

 

[Spooner]

this would be so friggin impossible, i'd end up killing myself

 

[chuckieland]

Originally posted by: Roger
I can make ice with fire, anyone want to try to guess how ?

hey roger
enlighten us
please provide us with a link to creditable source

i don't really believe that make fire with ice thing, if you can enlighten me, i'll give you a rate of 10

 

A gas refrigerator uses ammonia as the coolant, and it uses water, ammonia and hydrogen gas to create a continuous cycle for the ammonia. The refrigerator has five main parts:

Generator - generates ammonia gas
Separator - separates ammonia gas from water
Condenser - where hot ammonia gas is cooled and condensed to create liquid ammonia
Evaporator - where liquid ammonia evaporates to create cold temperatures inside the refrigerator
Absorber - absorbs the ammonia gas in water
The cycle works like this:
Heat is applied to the generator. The heat comes from burning something like gas, propane or kerosene.
In the generator is a solution of ammonia and water. The heat raises the temperature of the solution to the boiling point of the ammonia.
The boiling solution flows to the separator. In the separator, the water separates from the ammonia gas.
The ammonia gas flows upward to the condenser. The condenser is composed of metal coils and fins that allow the ammonia gas to dissipate its heat and condense into a liquid.
The liquid ammonia makes its way to the evaporator, where it mixes with hydrogen gas and evaporates, producing cold temperatures inside the refrigerator.
The ammonia and hydrogen gases flow to the absorber. Here, the water that has collected in the separator is mixed with the ammonia and hydrogen gases.
The ammonia forms a solution with the water and releases the hydrogen gas, which flows back to the evaporator. The ammonia-and-water solution flows toward the generator to repeat the cycle. [/b]

😛

How a RV refrigerator works

 

[Amused]

Actually, this works. My father demonstrated this on a Boy Scout backpacking trip. It took some doing, but he was able to ignite paper with a lens he made out of ice.

They say to boil the water when you "practice" because tap water is full of air. Lake water or natural ice wont be.

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: Haircut
Assuming you were in the frozen tundra without fire, how would you first boil the water to get the ice clear? 😕

my thoughts exactly, also you wouldn't get the "optics" on it to a good enough level of perfection to get a small enough focal point to cause ignition. another thought i had was wouldn't the sun start to deform the optics as soon as you started to use the lense and it started to melt?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Haircut
Assuming you were in the frozen tundra without fire, how would you first boil the water to get the ice clear? 😕

my thoughts exactly, also you wouldn't get the "optics" on it to a good enough level of perfection to get a small enough focal point to cause ignition. another thought i had was wouldn't the sun start to deform the optics as soon as you started to use the lense and it started to melt?

He says to boil the water when practicing because more than likely, you'll be using aerated tap water.

And no, the lense wont melt if you're in below freezing temps.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: notfred
Too bad it doesn't actually work.

?

In my experience, when someone takes a series of photographs documenting some procedure, and the series abruptly stops right before it would be demonstrated that the procedure was a success, it's because he failed.

In order to work you'd have to have some very "clean" Ice w/o particles or ait pockets and be an expert Ice Shaver since both side must be equalateral and at the proper curvature. You're essentailly correct no way in hell your average person could do this. Bring the mathces next time.

 

Where's my 10 rating Chuckie ?

 

[hzl eyed grl]

To practice, boil water for 10 minutes to remove gas.

As stated a little earlier... You boil water to practice. 😛

 

[Krk3561]

Whose MacGyvers?

Cool way to make fire

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Whose MacGyver?

You can't be serious....

 

[hzl eyed grl]

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Whose MacGyvers?

Cool way to make fire

:Q Are you serious? You never watched McGyver as a kid? :Q :Q

 

[hzl eyed grl]

MacGyver

 

[Krk3561]

I was born in 1986 😛

 

hey roger
enlighten us
please provide us with a link to creditable source

i don't really believe that make fire with ice thing, if you can enlighten me, i'll give you a rate of 10

Hey Chuckie, I'm calling you out, where the hell is my ten.

 

[ReiAyanami]

step 1: use flamethrower...

 

[StageLeft]

Very nifty, vi!

 

[0roo0roo]

water holds more gas as temp goes up right? so ice water from snow or lake shouldn't be too gassy.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Roger
I carry one of these on my keychain.

Better not toss your pants into the washing machine with that in the pocket. 🙂

 

Come on Chuckie, I am still waiting for your response 🙂

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: hzl_eyed_grl
MacGyver

Mac & Pete rule. 😉

HEY! Check this out! :Q <-- Click

Setup for Fall 2003 release...

 

[KC5AV]

Originally posted by: notfred
Too bad it doesn't actually work.

Use clear lake or pond ice. To practice, boil water for 10 minutes to remove gas.

 

[fonzinator]

Originally posted by: ATLien247

Originally posted by: fonzinator
I gave a speech called "5 Different Ways to Make a Fire Without Matches" in college. This DOES work. 😀

What are the other four?

1. A magnifying glass (very simple)
2. Flint (very difficult)
3. Magnesium striker (simple)
4. Rubbing sticks with hands or bow (very difficult)
5. Fire by ice (extremely difficult)