For all you A64 users, do you have Cool'n'Quiet on?

[BlvdKing]

I use it. My comp idles most of the day.

 

[ribbon13]

Depends on the PC. The PC I'm on, Opteron 146 non-OCed, yes because its only used for light office use/plotter server, mostly browsing AT. My workstation, no, it's completely free and open for VPN controlled rendering at all times.

 

[CheesePoofs]

No, I have a DC project running 24/7, so it would be pointless.

 

[F1shF4t]

used to use use it, but since i sent my gfx card back for repair i cant use it since when ever it switches my psu makes noises, darn ennoying.
Also i noticed that its much more responsive without it on so i will not be using it again.

 

[Xpred]

I guess non-overclocking = best to have C'n'Q on and off for overclocking, eh?

 

[Doctorweir]

Originally posted by: Unkno
Doctorwir, when you say the system will hang, do you mean it would freeze? And would there be a problem if i was using the default 10x multiplier in my bios?

Yes, freezing during bootup.
As long as you use the max multiplier, there is no problem. But if you use 8x where the max of the processor is 10x (and you overclocked to the max to get a higher HTT), Windows will (during bootup) check the available options for power management, also kicking in the 10x, which naturally leads to a freeze if your processor is already maxed out at 8x

 

[Alfalfameister]

I have a Venice 3200+ running at 2.5Ghz. In my BIOS (latest bios for MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum), I think I set the memory to 166, 2T... bah, I'll let Everest Home Edition do it for me:
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CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3500+ [I only have a 3200+!]
CPU Alias Venice S939
CPU Stepping DH-E3
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ [Now that's better...]
CPUID Revision 00020FF0h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 1249.82 MHz
CPU Multiplier 5.0x [Goes to 10x when I Prime95 or something]
CPU FSB 249.96 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 25%)
Memory Bus 208.30 MHz



Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce4 Ultra, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2.5-4-4-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 2T

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1: GeIL CL25-4-4DDR 400 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
DIMM2: GeIL CL25-4-4DDR 400 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)

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I only have Value RAM, so I set it at 166 in the BIOS, with mem timings 2.5-4-4-8. Although I set it at 166, it runs at 208.xx... I think the best my Value RAM can do is probably 210 anyway (never bothered overclocking it more). Right now, it's Prime95 stable for 12 hours (I think my voltage is 1.400 plus 6.6%), so I'm happy, since my day-to-day activities don't include thinking of the prime numbers anyhow...

Since my multiplier is 10x (for the 3200+), and during CnQ it goes down to 5x, there's no problem when my computer throttles to max (which is the default 10x, albeit at 250 fsb instead of 200).

All in all, I like CnQ. And this from a newbie.

 

[Alfalfameister]

When I recommend systems for freinds it's better IMO to give them 1G of ram and dual core ATM.. Sure you could suggest a POS dell with 128/256 MB ram and 2.8 celeron for $500.. but why put them so close to the edge? Is'nt better to spend $1000 and ot have to worry next 5 or even 7 years? Especially true since CPU's aint exactly exponential growth anymore... Also give them lots of ram .. Noobs whore thier machines out to the max.. I've seen over 600MB ram use on this one freinds PC with just AOL running.. idiot had about 30 icons in taskbar... you don't think he needed dual core? Sure did. And his 512 was woefully inadequate.. So I told him get another gig for aol... LOL No way was I going to work on that machine..ram and Dual processor is way cheaper than my time.

Amen to that! I set up a computer for my sister-in-law (who, for some unknown reason, uses the RECYCLE BIN to keep her files!!! Which means she NEVER empties the recycle bin), and instead of setting up some Celeron based computer, did the same thing: 1gig of RAM, etc...

Coz like Zebo's friends, she loves icons and stuff in her taskbar. I have already used TrueImage (I think it was that) to make an image of her drive, because I'm sure she'll get a virus one of these days because she opens all email including .exe's. (Yes, I installed an anti-virus, but when you open absolutely everything...).

 

[Unkno]

Would using CnQ drastically increase it's lifespan (if like 2/3rd of the time the computer is on is idling)

 

[bjc112]

LOL No way was I going to work on that machine..ram and Dual processor is way cheaper than my time.

Amen to that..

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Unkno
Would using CnQ drastically increase it's lifespan (if like 2/3rd of the time the computer is on is idling)

Nothing you need worry about. Processors are built to last 20 years.. so it may get 30 with C&Q.. either way you'll be getting something else long before CPU expires. C&Q is marketed strictly as a power saving and noise feature.

 

[TrueWisdom]

20 years? Even when overclocked?

 

[Doctorweir]

I always thought they are build for 5 yrs and I lower that to 3 by overclocking...
Except it's a server piece...

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I have yet to kill a CPU and I've tried I've got a 6 1/2 yr old Tbird 1.4ghz thats been overclocked the entire time, and runs the same today as the day I set it up. I also have a 386sx that I bought in 1989 that still runs, however I haven't turned it on in quite a while. I also have a TRS80 (cirica 1978-79) in the attic that worked the last time I turned it on (10yrs ago?), I should drag that thing out and see if it still runs

 

[brzrkr0]

Amen to that! I set up a computer for my sister-in-law (who, for some unknown reason, uses the RECYCLE BIN to keep her files!!!

Wow. I did tech support for about 5 years, so I've seen people do a lot of crazy things with their computers, but that's a new one. What did she do, drag stuff back out of the recycle bin when she needed to use it?

 

[saechaka]

nope i use rmclock instead

 

[Unkno]

wow....20 years, you sure, even when overclocked to the cpu's max (with acceptable temperature)

 

[Regalk]

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: Regalk
Don't need. Idle at 33C and load at 46C so useless to me anyway. I prefer to have the cpu at full power - this is the reason i bought it. Who cares if it lasts 6 months or a year or whatever.

This is not only about heat and lasting longer CPUs.

You don't care about saving eletricity (=saving money)?

I save in other ways (replaced my bulbs with energy savers, energy star appliances (yep you name it) so i can afford to run my machines (6 of them overclocked if you will) whenever I want - I turn off when not in use.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Regalk

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: Regalk
Don't need. Idle at 33C and load at 46C so useless to me anyway. I prefer to have the cpu at full power - this is the reason i bought it. Who cares if it lasts 6 months or a year or whatever.

This is not only about heat and lasting longer CPUs.

You don't care about saving eletricity (=saving money)?

I save in other ways (replaced my bulbs with energy savers, energy star appliances (yep you name it) so i can afford to run my machines (6 of them overclocked if you will) whenever I want - I turn off when not in use.

Good points.. Also some may want to think about seasonic PSU's for next purchase which are over 80% effecient! Compared to normal PSU's of 65-70%.. Right there could save someone 20-40W every hour it's on.. may even pay for itself over 3-4 years depending on useage patterns..

 

[n7]

No.

 

[Alfalfameister]

Originally posted by: brzrkr0

Wow. I did tech support for about 5 years, so I've seen people do a lot of crazy things with their computers, but that's a new one. What did she do, drag stuff back out of the recycle bin when she needed to use it?

Hmmm... now that you mention it, I don't know. She kinda used that as her ARCHIVE (!!!) of files, so I don't really know if she modified it still... but she would print them again or something.

... er, fast forward to today, she now uses a folder on the desktop that is labeled "STUFF".

 

[Alfalfameister]

Originally posted by: saechaka
nope i use rmclock instead

Is it easy to use? Is there an "Idiot's Guide to rmclock" or something?

Let me see: in Windows Control Panel -> Power settings -> I should make it to ALWAYS ON if I use rmclock, correct?

Any BIOS settings? (i.e., should CnQ be enabled in BIOS or will rmclock take care of it?)

Thanks for any help.

 

[servin247365]

yep 64 3000 overclocked to 3500 speeds

cool & quiet works great

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Regalk

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: Regalk
Don't need. Idle at 33C and load at 46C so useless to me anyway. I prefer to have the cpu at full power - this is the reason i bought it. Who cares if it lasts 6 months or a year or whatever.

This is not only about heat and lasting longer CPUs.

You don't care about saving eletricity (=saving money)?

I save in other ways (replaced my bulbs with energy savers, energy star appliances (yep you name it) so i can afford to run my machines (6 of them overclocked if you will) whenever I want - I turn off when not in use.

Good points.. Also some may want to think about seasonic PSU's for next purchase which are over 80% effecient! Compared to normal PSU's of 65-70%.. Right there could save someone 20-40W every hour it's on.. may even pay for itself over 3-4 years depending on useage patterns..

Not only that, if you think about an office environment in a building - every additional Watt produced by the computer must be removed through the air conditioning. That would make a nice Termodynamics calculation for an exam.....

That makes the energy calculation the double. Of course it has little impact at our homes, but think on big corporations, with 10.000+ desktops.....

This is where /why AMD should try to convice big companies....the company I work has only "Intel" inside, pretty sure the IT guys are not good ones....

 

[saechaka]

Originally posted by: Alfalfameister

Originally posted by: saechaka
nope i use rmclock instead

Is it easy to use? Is there an "Idiot's Guide to rmclock" or something?

Let me see: in Windows Control Panel -> Power settings -> I should make it to ALWAYS ON if I use rmclock, correct?

Any BIOS settings? (i.e., should CnQ be enabled in BIOS or will rmclock take care of it?)

Thanks for any help.

very easy to use. it will need to run in the back ground. you have to check the p-state trans. box, then find the default trans. and then check automatic management.