For all you A64 users, do you have Cool'n'Quiet on?

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Rottie

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Enabled...Why? I am new with cool n quiet technology. I have a new A64 3500+ running at stock speed.
 

CP5670

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I don't use it. It switches to the maximum multiplier whenever the system is under load, so if you have dropped the multiplier for overclocking it becomes unstable. I think some newer motherboards allow you to specify an upper limit on what multipliers it can use, but mine doesn't.
 

Madellga

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Originally posted by: Regalk
Don't need. Idle at 33C and load at 46C so useless to me anyway. I prefer to have the cpu at full power - this is the reason i bought it. Who cares if it lasts 6 months or a year or whatever.

This is not only about heat and lasting longer CPUs.

You don't care about saving eletricity (=saving money)?
 

Madellga

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I use CnQ on my San Diego (rig 2). It works like a charm, even overclocked (DFI NF4 mobo). You can have all performance when needed and spare the hardware/eletricity while reading forums ;)

On the other hand, it doesn't work on my main machine (Opteron). Don't know if it software, bios or hardware problem. I had a thread about this some days ago.

I can go around using 3rd party software (Crystall CPU or RM Clock). I prefer to use the AMD official driver tough - have to wait for the fix.
 

McGeyser

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I was using Cool N Quiet with my last AMD 754 setup. Games would accelerate and then slow down, America' Army was notorious for doing this in the training scenarios. Ever since that, I never wanted to risk problems and annoyance. So, no CnQ for me these days. You guys are providing some good points in using it, though I still hesitate to deal with the unforseen side affects.
 

GOREGRINDER

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Originally posted by: McGeyser
I was using Cool N Quiet with my last AMD 754 setup. Games would accelerate and then slow down, America' Army was notorious for doing this in the training scenarios. Ever since that, I never wanted to risk problems and annoyance. So, no CnQ for me these days. You guys are providing some good points in using it, though I still hesitate to deal with the unforseen side affects.

 

bdoople

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Originally posted by: gfngfgf
Another X2 3800+ user who uses it. I barely use my computer for anything besides e-mail and listening to music, so it's fine with CnQ.



Then why the heck did you buy THAT rig?

I disabled mine.. I idle at 71F.. so I don't need it.
 

2kfire

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Originally posted by: McGeyser
I was using Cool N Quiet with my last AMD 754 setup. Games would accelerate and then slow down, America' Army was notorious for doing this in the training scenarios. Ever since that, I never wanted to risk problems and annoyance. So, no CnQ for me these days. You guys are providing some good points in using it, though I still hesitate to deal with the unforseen side affects.

You could use it while surfing the net, and when you want to play games, change your power settings to Always on or something. That's what I do :)
 

Xpred

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Originally posted by: GOREGRINDER
Originally posted by: McGeyser
I was using Cool N Quiet with my last AMD 754 setup. Games would accelerate and then slow down, America' Army was notorious for doing this in the training scenarios. Ever since that, I never wanted to risk problems and annoyance. So, no CnQ for me these days. You guys are providing some good points in using it, though I still hesitate to deal with the unforseen side affects.

I wonder how many usually have this problem. Perhaps it's a combination of the hardware that makes it seem like this?
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: gfngfgf
Another X2 3800+ user who uses it. I barely use my computer for anything besides e-mail and listening to music, so it's fine with CnQ.

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE A X2 FOR THEN?
 

Doctorweir

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Yes, but there are two implications:
1) Don't leave the management to Windows => Use RMClock :)
2) You can not use it (IMHO) if your OC does not use the max divider, due to Windows kicking in the max divider on bootup with CnQ enabled => tilt :(

Regarding power preservation: This is much too overrated. The idle cycles, even if the processor runs at full speed, do the most work. I have an energy meter attached to my rig and @2500MHz compared to @1000MHz CnQ'ed (if idle anyway) makes a difference of 5-8 Watts in consumption (from a total of 110). Same for Temps, maybe ~3C...
 

2kfire

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Originally posted by: Doctorweir
Yes, but there are two implications:
1) Don't leave the management to Windows => Use RMClock :)
2) You can not use it (IMHO) if your OC does not use the max divider, due to Windows kicking in the max divider on bootup with CnQ enabled => tilt :(

Regarding power preservation: This is much too overrated. The idle cycles, even if the processor runs at full speed, do the most work. I have an energy meter attached to my rig and @2500MHz compared to @1000MHz CnQ'ed (if idle anyway) makes a difference of 5-8 Watts in consumption (from a total of 110). Same for Temps, maybe ~3C...

Hmm, that makes sense now! I'm using the max divider, and I've never had problems using CnQ! :thumbsup:
 

Doctorweir

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Jepp...if CnQ is enabled, Windows overrides the BIOS-set multiplier and the system will definitely hang during bootup...
 

Unkno

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what do you mean by max divider, you talking about the memory divider (max as in 400?)?

Doctorwir, when you say the system will hang, do you mean it would freeze? And would there be a problem if i was using the default 10x multiplier in my bios?


I'm asking these questions cuz i'm currently using CnQ and notice an error after I enabled it and the error wouldn't go away even if i disabled CnQ (not sure if it is CnQ that is the problem" Text
 

Zebo

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I don't like it - some say they don't notice but I notice it takes a couple milliseconds to ramp up off C&Q.. I like instant 36ns latency all the time.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: gfngfgf
Another X2 3800+ user who uses it. I barely use my computer for anything besides e-mail and listening to music, so it's fine with CnQ.

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE A X2 FOR THEN?

Good for 5 years minimum..:)

When I recommend systems for freinds it's better IMO to give them 1G of ram and dual core ATM.. Sure you could suggest a POS dell with 128/256 MB ram and 2.8 celeron for $500.. but why put them so close to the edge? Is'nt better to spend $1000 and ot have to worry next 5 or even 7 years? Especially true since CPU's aint exactly exponential growth anymore... Also give them lots of ram .. Noobs whore thier machines out to the max.. I've seen over 600MB ram use on this one freinds PC with just AOL running.. idiot had about 30 icons in taskbar... you don't think he needed dual core? Sure did. And his 512 was woefully inadequate.. So I told him get another gig for aol... LOL:) No way was I going to work on that machine..ram and Dual processor is way cheaper than my time.
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: Madellga
Originally posted by: Regalk
Don't need. Idle at 33C and load at 46C so useless to me anyway. I prefer to have the cpu at full power - this is the reason i bought it. Who cares if it lasts 6 months or a year or whatever.

This is not only about heat and lasting longer CPUs.

You don't care about saving eletricity (=saving money)?

Let us know how much you save on your electric bill, lol. With the exact same use, I doubt it it would be more than the cost of a cheap cup of coffee a month.