For a job background check what will they really deny you on?

AliK80

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I just had a great interview for a job and found out at the end next week I will be quizzed on spelling grammar and math. Then, told they are going to do a background check, employment check, education where they will ask for school transcripts for college and ha diploma, drug test, physical, and credit check.

So, here’s my problem. I just got fired from a job but told them I still work there because in the past employers have looked down on it as well as so they don’t call my employer because when I got fired I was never told I was fired, just taken off the schedule and never spoken to again by them, but this company said if I still work there they won’t contact them just ask for a recent pay stub (which i have). Also, I said I’m in school but didn’t tell them I’m really not starting classes til b term or falll so if they look for that I’ll i will have is old college transcripts and a ha diploma. Also my credit is poor from old credit card dept of when I first moved out a few years ago. Is this all enough to make me not get the job?

Also, an old employee said she heard I got fired because they thought I took a girls credit card and a another person told me they heard it was because I no call no showed. Enlighten me on how valuable this info is to future employers on if they hire me or not. Or if it’ll be an embarrassing situation of me getting fired after I’m hired there. I was at my job for 5.5 years btw.
 
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Captante

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The biggest issue here is that you lied on the application which is an immediate red flag and if discovered will cause problems.
 

JPS35

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So you lied on your application and lied in your interview? Now or later it is going to catch up to you; especially if you are in the same line of work and cross paths with other co-workers and/or previous employer.
 

Kyle

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Yeah...from what I've heard lying is by far the biggest red flag. If you were honest about what happened you'd have a better chance than if they catch even one of those lies. But take that w/ a grain of salt, I've never been the one hiring/firing people - but have seen it happen for seemingly inconsequential lies during the hiring process.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Lying, that is so funny in the context of my employer. They use to strongly recommend that you participate in the employee feedback survey and that it was 'anonymous'. They also said that retribution was prohibited. But when they got caught lying as the feedback survey wasn't anonymous (they recently changed it to confidential), everything else coming out of the company is first treated as a lie before anything else.

I am not defending the OP. I just found the lying aspect in terms of employment, and employee+employer to be funny as hell.
 
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I just had a great interview for a job and found out at the end next week I will be quizzed on spelling grammar and math. Then, told they are going to do a background check, employment check, education where they will ask for school transcripts for college and ha diploma, drug test, physical, and credit check.

Tested your spelling, grammar, and math? Geez. wtf?

I guess my employers probably self-assessed that based on my emails, application, and general talking...

Probably all my employers did background checks - but none have ever asked for transcripts - and I've never been drug tested in my life (ever).... And a physical? Wtf?

So, here’s my problem. I just got fired from a job but told them I still work there because in the past employers have looked down on it as well as so they don’t call my employer because when I got fired I was never told I was fired, just taken off the schedule and never spoken to again by them, but this company said if I still work there they won’t contact them just ask for a recent pay stub (which i have). Also, I said I’m in school but didn’t tell them I’m really not starting classes til b term or falll so if they look for that I’ll i will have is old college transcripts and a ha diploma. Also my credit is poor from old credit card dept of when I first moved out a few years ago. Is this all enough to make me not get the job?

Yeaaaah, you should have been at least halfway truthful there.

I'm fine with you stretching the truth - such as saying you left the job or had some differences with management... or had to quit because you are no longer able to travel - which may very well be lies... Hell, I did that with the last company that hired me. I told them I was tired of traveling every week to see clients.... While that was true - what ultimately made me quit was a dickhole manager on the project I was on.
 
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Holy crap are you applying to be the vice president or something? That's quite the process they have there.

Heh - no - it's funny the more extensive the hiring process, the more I think it's low skilled or blue collar based work.

That typically holds true - As I said, I've never been drug tested in my life (and I'm on my 4th employer).
 
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Holy crap are you applying to be the vice president or something? That's quite the process they have there.

Everything but the school transcripts is normal, and that's common either for a first-job-out-of-college or if you're getting a job as a teacher of some sort.
 
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Everything but the school transcripts is normal, and that's common either for a first-job-out-of-college or if you're getting a job as a teacher of some sort.
Transcripts are stupid simply because that's what a background check is there to prove.

My last employer had a company that did background checks - but it told me specifically what it was that they did... Which was basically call up courts in the cities/counties/jurisdictions and ensure I didn't have any criminal records, called my university and ensured their records aligned with what I said... and called past employers and ensured it aligned with what I said.
 

spacejamz

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i thought legally your former employer could only provide your start and last date of employment when asked by a prospective employer....

edit: guess are there are no federal laws about this but there can be some laws that vary by state...
 
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Red Squirrel

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Everything but the school transcripts is normal, and that's common either for a first-job-out-of-college or if you're getting a job as a teacher of some sort.

That seems crazy. School transcripts is about the only one that I can kinda understand, though it should stop being relevant after your 1st job.

Here they just ask for references mostly. They also typically want you to have a diploma in something , like computer science if it's a tech job, but not sure how they actually look that up, I guess the college would have a record? I've never been asked to actually provide it.

The credit check seems so odd to me what does your credit score have to do with your ability to perform a job? How do you establish good credit without a job? I didn't even have any credit history before I got a job.
 

snoopy7548

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If your grammar is really as bad as what's in your post, you're not getting the job.
 
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That seems crazy. School transcripts is about the only one that I can kinda understand, though it should stop being relevant after your 1st job.

Here they just ask for references mostly. They also typically want you to have a diploma in something , like computer science if it's a tech job, but not sure how they actually look that up, I guess the college would have a record? I've never been asked to actually provide it.

The credit check seems so odd to me what does your credit score have to do with your ability to perform a job? How do you establish good credit without a job? I didn't even have any credit history before I got a job.

Credit checks are normal in any job that involves handling cash. People with a lot of bad debt can get desperate.
 

BoomerD

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Heh - no - it's funny the more extensive the hiring process, the more I think it's low skilled or blue collar based work.

That typically holds true - As I said, I've never been drug tested in my life (and I'm on my 4th employer).

I got drug tested for almost every job I started. It was the norm in construction. Plus, as a crane operator, I was automatically in a DOT random drug testing pool, and working on a navigable waterway, we were always subject to the US Coast Guard pulling up along side and randomly testing anyone/everyone on the barge. Plus, I got hurt, I had to pee in the cup, or if there was any kind of accident involving the crane, (even someone on one of the crews the crane was hoisting for) we all had to test.

There were a few years where I piss tested a dozen times. "If you got the money, I got the time."
 

SKORPI0

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Common Criminology Background Check Disqualifiers
Generally, job candidates are most commonly dropped from consideration for one or more of the followin

  • Felony convictions
  • Serious misdemeanors
  • Past or current drug use
  • Credit issues
  • Dishonorable discharge from military service
  • Falsification or untruthfulness on the application
  • Poor work history
  • Past or current gang affiliations
  • Undetected crimes
  • Problematic driving history
  • Domestic violence
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/common-background-check-disqualifiers-974778
 

clamum

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Lmao, why are you fricking lying to them? Man up and be honest with people.

And how can you not know how you were fired from your last job? Lol oh man.
 

MovingTarget

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Yeah, lying means you are screwed here. Seriously, you not only lied, you lied on an EASILY VERIFIABLE data point.
 

Red Squirrel

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When the government, employer or anyone official asks you a question, 99% of the time they already know the answer or have an easy way to verify it. So yeah, lying is a bad idea.