i talked to the manager at the vons by me. he said they were hiring on the spot (no interviews at all) for $17.90 per hour regardless of experience. probably could still get in on it although i didn't see any picketers out there today.
i talked to the manager at the vons by me. he said they were hiring on the spot (no interviews at all) for $17.90 per hour regardless of experience. probably could still get in on it although i didn't see any picketers out there today.
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17.90/ hr...these people aren't overpaid. This is the amount that was agreed upon between the owners and the workers. I'm sure their insurance benefits are taken out of this amount also.
I really don't see why some people have to bash unions and claim that monkeys can be trained to do these jobs. This is these people's livelihood. It may not be your career choice, but it is one they have chosen.
I believe their picket line should be respected. I would shop somewhere else.
I really don't see why some people have to bash unions and claim that monkeys can be trained to do these jobs. This is these people's livelihood. It may not be your career choice, but it is one they have chosen.
I believe their picket line should be respected. I would shop somewhere else.
The "schnucks","Dierbergs" and "shop&save" have been on strike for close to a week now.... in all of missouri.... been shopping at aldi's and QT...
Sadly, yes. People do consider being a cashier a career. There are plenty of people out there who are just "riding out life" in such positions. They have no desire to reach higher. However, some might just be doing it for additional family income. Maybe, they only desire to work 4 or 6 hours per day and being a cashier fits into their schedule.
I guess what gets me is that strikers don't really do the math. Example: They are offered a raise of 4%, but they feel they can hold out for 6%. So, they strike and hit the picket lines. Some strikes can be painful and carried out. Such strikes could last several months. What the striker doesn't realize is that it takes the next 3 years of working to cover the period of time when they were not making money because they were striking. :frown: :frown:
you cant fire them, but you can sure as hell make them quit if you hire a bunch of new people and never tell the strikers to come back to work.
Strange... I've never seen a career cashier. Most of them were high schoolers or retired people. I really can't believe that there's a union for supermarket workers.
I don't really consider being a cashier for additional income a career choice... just a temporary measure, like how some unemployed people will work in whatever until they find a job in their field.
After a certain amount of time. and the company jumps through a couple hoops, employees CAN be permanently replaced. These people will not have jobs. It will be easy for these stores to ride out the strike while locking the striking employees out, all the while having temp employees work until they meet the requirements to permanently replace the striking workers.
The company holds all the cards right now, they wont be hurt much by this strike. My bet is the union caves.
Have grocery store workers ever striked before? If so, what happened in the end? I'm just really shocked here since these people can be replaced by highschoolers, retired people, etc. They're not exactly skilled workers or knowledgeable!
In my area, a large percentage of the cashiers are women who are not teenagers - nor, are they retired. Also, I think a union for supermarket employees is essential. Do some research on Food Lion and how they treated their workers. Many were told to go to the time clock, punch-out and then get back to work ... for free. But, as consumers, we do pay for the benefit of the union for the employees because it can lead to higher wages.
A few years back in my area, a larger grocery chain gave most of its career employees -- many who had worked in the stores more than 20 years, a severance package. Clearly, the chain realized that they were probably getting $30.00 per hour and they could not continue to pay them such money - hence, the buy-out was offered and since many were quite near retirement age, many took that option.
All I'm going to say is to research the history of the Caterpillar strike. If you learn what happened there you will understand what can happen with the super market strike.
Good god, they are bitching because these companies are wanting the employees to pay up to $80 a month for medical insurance, where as now they pay none. Part Time employees get free medical insurance too.
Up to $17.90 an hour for cashiers(Deli, Produce, Bakery, Stockers would obviously make more), double/triple pay on Holidays and Sundays, and no premium insurance.
Yeah ummm whos being greedy bastards? Im fully aware the companies gave them this contract, but they gave them this current contract in BOOM TIMES, as well as before Wal Mart came into the market full force. No matter what the Union says, Wal Mart has had a huge negative impact on Kroger, Albertsons, and Safeway over the past 2-3 years.
If I was these companies Id play hardball, and lock out all strikers and eventually replace them permanently. They can do this, it would be unpopular but it will be extremely easy for these companies to do it. Even easier since CA has one of the weakest job markets in the country.
I work at one of the offices at Safeway (corp, not store). I've been here since 2001, so I've been around long enough to see that Walmart and the other discount grocery retailers and warehouse retailers are hurting us pretty badly.
Thankfully, our fuel stations are helping to stem the loss of money to Wallyworld and such, but we're still hurting over here.
I have to admit that I'm biased against Vons already. Mainly it's due to a constant whining attitude that we get from them every day, and the fact that a significant portion of them don't seem to care about their jobs, nor learning how to do their jobs better.
Until this weekend, I'd never paid much attention to how much they get paid there. Apparently I chose the wrong line of work, as a clerk makes several dollars an hour more than me (and I have to pay for my health benefits, too!!).
I've seen stores in difference places go on strike. Some stores were closed for almost a year (somewhere in Canada), and then there's Dominicks.
Talk about an overpriced asset. They didn't turn a profit and pretty much didn't do anything more than whine and be rude to everyone. Go figure that when they made demands that the employees would get several dollars an hour in raises that management said no. Well, they said more than that. They're either going to sell Dominicks or just close them down. Real bright strategy there. I'm hoping that people will remember just how helpful the unions were to them in that case.
Personally, I'd say that we just need to replace some of the people that are walking right now in front of Vons. If the pay is so bad, I'm sure they won't have a problem finding a job with better pay and benefits!
Thankfully, our fuel stations are helping to stem the loss of money to Wallyworld and such, but we're still hurting over here.
I have to admit that I'm biased against Vons already. Mainly it's due to a constant whining attitude that we get from them every day, and the fact that a significant portion of them don't seem to care about their jobs, nor learning how to do their jobs better.
Until this weekend, I'd never paid much attention to how much they get paid there. Apparently I chose the wrong line of work, as a clerk makes several dollars an hour more than me (and I have to pay for my health benefits, too!!).
I've seen stores in difference places go on strike. Some stores were closed for almost a year (somewhere in Canada), and then there's Dominicks.
Talk about an overpriced asset. They didn't turn a profit and pretty much didn't do anything more than whine and be rude to everyone. Go figure that when they made demands that the employees would get several dollars an hour in raises that management said no. Well, they said more than that. They're either going to sell Dominicks or just close them down. Real bright strategy there. I'm hoping that people will remember just how helpful the unions were to them in that case.
Personally, I'd say that we just need to replace some of the people that are walking right now in front of Vons. If the pay is so bad, I'm sure they won't have a problem finding a job with better pay and benefits!
"If I was these companies Id play hardball, and lock out all strikers and eventually replace them permanently."
They seem to be getting along fine without 'em so far...
They seem to be getting along fine without 'em so far...
I don't live in CA, but if I did I'd find the closest store with a picketline and shop there untill this thing blows over.
The strikers are lame for asking innocent shoppers to support them by not patronizing the stores while they are striking. So what happens when the strike is over, will the union workers rally on the sidewalks asking for shoppers to come back and shop at the store they were just striking? Don't think so. What is this world becoming. It's all about selfishness.
I'm friendly with some of the checkers in my local Albertson's and Von's, and I'll support them. They're fighting to keep the health care benefits they've had for years. I wish I had health insurance.
I once read the manual for the human body. It says there's supposed to be only one asshole issued for each human being. If that's what you believe, you're living proof that someone's been overproducing! :disgust:
I wish I have insurance also. Why don't we picket in front of local government buildings? Peeps have a right to make a choice in this country. What country are u living?
Yep, and the strikers have made a choice that they would rather strike than have their existing health benefits cut. I'd rather picket in front of government buildings to get crooks like the Bush admin to stop giving away the store to the wealthiest 1% of our citizens while millions are hungry and without health care.
What planet are you from?
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