food stamps...

[Buickbeast]

Originally posted by: necine

You're naive.

You are the one being naive. It's called minimum wage for a reason! If you don't like it, gain some skills to make yourself worth more than the minimum.

McDonalds hires above minimum wage and so does 7-11. If you are a man, do construction or other manual labor, if you're a women, wait tables. Both jobs will put you above minimum wage. Finally, if you can't support yourself with your income, don't have kids, very simple.

Everyone looking for there government handout.

 

[necine]

Originally posted by: Buickbeast

Originally posted by: necine

You're naive.

You are the one being naive. It's called minimum wage for a reason! If you don't like it, gain some skills to make yourself worth more than the minimum.

McDonalds hires above minimum wage and so does 7-11. If you are a man, do construction or other manual labor, if you're a women, wait tables. Both jobs will put you above minimum wage. Finally, if you can't support yourself with your income, don't have kids, very simple.

Everyone looking for there government handout.

How many adults do you know who earn minimum wage? Probably very few if any.

If you don't think that there's adults making minimum wage you are naive. First of all, it isn't about what the parents have done, it's about the kids. Why should they remain hungry because of there parents?

Not everyone is looking for a handout. Sometimes the death of a husband/wife can take away resources that were once there.

I've tried getting jobs doing construction and I've never been hired. I've tried getting simple labor jobs, and I've been turned down. This may be because I'm 5'8 and weigh 140 lbs... I'm not sure. But you're oversimplifying the situation.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: goku
are they really all that bad...? It seems like you can only buy nasty food with food stamps and nothing else, seems like you can't buy very good food with foodstamps and doesn't provide enough benefits.

Haha, work as a cashier in a grocery store. You will see Lobster and crablegs being bought with foodstamps. I should know I worked at a grocery store for 2 years.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: necine

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: necine

Originally posted by: amdskip
They should buy the basics only long enough for people to get back on their feet.

What about people with low income jobs that are perpetually off their feet, yet still work everyday?

live in a less expensive house and cut other costs

What if they already live in low income housing and do not drive a vehicle?

are you saying it is impossible for people working minimum wage jobs to afford a low income apartment and basic food? if so, they need to work more than 8 hours a day

Why yes, yes it is impossible to earn minimum wage, and afford housing, bills and food. And like necine said, especially if they have kids. I've worked with people who worked 2+ jobs to support themselves, and they were always exhausted. Minimum wage definitely needs to be increased.

If you increase minimum wage... prices will increase...

Increasing minimum wage wouldn't do a damn thing to help these people. If you do increase minimum wage, you're essentially making otherwise unskilled jobs go to skilled workers. If you have to pay someone a higher wage, you're going to be more selective in hiring, right? So are you going to hire any random person that works into the store, or are you going to take longer in hiring someone and be much more selective? So the people you're trying to help, the unskilled, uneducated individuals, are going to apply for these jobs in greater numbers, yet won't get these jobs.

Also, you're not going to want to higher as many people. Nor are you going to be willing to have people work as many hours.

On top of that, other ways that businesses compensate for a higher minimum wage is passing the cost associated with it onto the customer.

So essentially, you're right back where you started.

Just because you have a minium wage of 5.25 or what ever, doesn't mean that every business is dependent on that and that if you were to increase miniumum wage to $7, they'd fold...:roll: Companies like walmart are screwing everybody over by having minium wage, sure they won't be hiring a bunch of retards who make the store into a complete mess, but it will benefit everybody. You can't live off of $5 and hour, it's just not possible and thats why it should be increased, so that it's possible for people to live with what they get paid. So what if everything costs more, I don't really care that much, sure toilet paper will increase $.10 at most, it's not really that big of a deal. So what if every american were to have a job, it doesn't matter if your making $3 and hour because it's still unliveable.

Summed up: Companies pay minimum wage because they can get away with it, it does NOT mean that they couldn't get away with paying their employees more with out making a profit. They probably could make a profit, pay their employees more and still not have to raise prices. Not all companies are boarder line red you know...

 

[NetGuySC]

the minimum wage should be raised to about $170/hour, that way there would be no poverty, much less crime, everyone could afford a 3500 sq/foot house with a lexus in the yard.


All of the problems of our society would be solved overnight if congress would just raised the minimum wage to $170/hour.

Such a simple answer to all known problems......... raise the minimum wage congress!!!!

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
the minimum wage should be raised to about $170/hour, that way there would be no poverty, much less crime, everyone could afford a 3500 sq/foot house with a lexus in the yard.


All of the problems of our society would be solved overnight if congress would just raised the minimum wage to $170/hour.

Such a simple answer to all known problems......... raise the minimum wage congress!!!!

Nobody wants to hear your nonsense posting.. Just because you increase miniumum wage by a little bit, doesn't mean that it's going to "destroy the economy":roll: Some people are just so ignorant, sure that means I can get strawberries albiet cheaper because they're hiring people at $3 an hour (illegals mostlikely) but then they go and use up all the social services instead of being self reliant which then drains the system more and forces taxes to be increased... If there wasn't poverty in this country, you all would be paying siginificantly less in the long run due to there being no need for 3/4 of the services out there....

 

[So]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: necine

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: necine

Originally posted by: amdskip
They should buy the basics only long enough for people to get back on their feet.

What about people with low income jobs that are perpetually off their feet, yet still work everyday?

live in a less expensive house and cut other costs

What if they already live in low income housing and do not drive a vehicle?

are you saying it is impossible for people working minimum wage jobs to afford a low income apartment and basic food? if so, they need to work more than 8 hours a day

or, it clearly shows that minimum wage needs to be increased..

You DO realize that will have no effect, right?

You raise the minimum wage, and the cost of living will go up. It is the most basic bit of economics ever.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
the minimum wage should be raised to about $170/hour, that way there would be no poverty, much less crime, everyone could afford a 3500 sq/foot house with a lexus in the yard.


All of the problems of our society would be solved overnight if congress would just raised the minimum wage to $170/hour.

Such a simple answer to all known problems......... raise the minimum wage congress!!!!

Nobody wants to hear your nonsense posting.. Just because you increase miniumum wage by a little bit, doesn't mean that it's going to "destroy the economy":roll: Some people are just so ignorant, sure that means I can get strawberries albiet cheaper because they're hiring people at $3 an hour (illegals mostlikely) but then they go and use up all the social services instead of being self reliant which then drains the system more and forces taxes to be increased... If there wasn't poverty in this country, you all would be paying siginificantly less in the long run due to there being no need for 3/4 of the services out there....

How much research have you done on the effects of increasing the minimum wage (doesn't even have to be in theory, in actuality too), and how much knowledge do you have in economics?

 

[MX2]

If you work, pay taxes, and qualify for them, then why not get them?

 

[darkeneddays]

I've worked at a grocery store for the past 6 years and the vast majority of our business is from EBT(food stamps). Of all the EBT customers I've seen I'd guess 15-20% buy nutritional food.(Raw meats, vegetables,fruits etc). Most however, load up on Doritoes,Oreos,Pepsi's and any other type of junk food we have on sale. Not surprisingly, the majority of those customers are horribly overweight and have at least 2-4 children tagging along with them. (In case you didn't know, the more kids you have the higher your Food Stamp limit goes).

Now I'm not going to say they shouldn't be able to get any junk food, everyone needs a treat from time to time, but to have $300 worth of total garbage thanks to the government is just insane. Personally, I think the program needs limitations like WIC (Program that provides certain food/drink for pregnant mothers and infants). WIC only allows you to get certain cereals and juices. It ensures you are getting something nutritious instead of 5 boxes of Cocoa Pebbles. Maybe a certain % cap? Like only 10% can be spent on foods deemed "junk". Would take a complete overhaul on our system though...

My opinions aside, you can buy any food that is not prepared.(Hot food from our deli for example). You also cannot buy certain "energy" foods (energy bars,certain teas etc).