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Food poisoning can be and often is fatal.
So are traffic accidents, so the OP better start walking everywhere. Did you know that basically everything in the universe can kill you? It's true! Your best bet to avoid death is to never exist. Or you could stop being scared of minor shit and living your life in a bubble. Basic protection is sensible. Going overboard on the reactionary front just makes you more vulnerable in the long run.
 

NetWareHead

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Not entirely. When you're driving, other people are on the road too, so an accident is not within your control. When you're eating, what you put in your body is entirely on you. As long as you exercise some basic common sense, you'll generally be fine. I wouldn't eat sushi that's been left out all night, but I will eat pizza. It's almost always better to put food in the fridge, but if something spends a few hours out of the fridge, that doesn't automatically make it bad. If it smells or looks funny, don't eat it. It's fairly straightforward.

Incidentally, the only times I've gotten food poisoning has been from freshly prepared food in a restaurant. Obviously they're following the requirements for "safe food," but those guidelines won't prevent 100% of food poisoning cases. So I figure, hey, safety is all well and good, but I'm not going to do it to some insane degree.

Preach on brother...

Can't tell you how many times in college I've eaten pizza ordered on friday night and then eaten again for breakfast on saturday morning. On the rare occasion that pizza made it to sunday, it was still fair game. Never refrigerated.
 

Mixolydian

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So are traffic accidents, so the OP better start walking everywhere. Did you know that basically everything in the universe can kill you? It's true! Your best bet to avoid death is to never exist. Or you could stop being scared of minor shit and living your life in a bubble. Basic protection is sensible. Going overboard on the reactionary front just makes you more vulnerable in the long run.

Or just use common sense. Just like wearing a seatbelt helps avoid injury in the event of a car accident, cooking and storing food properly helps avoid food poisoning.
 

jimbob200521

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E. coli and salmonella cannot "thrive" above ~133F.

The term thrive is used loosely. There is a reason that the hot holding temp of food is 140, the optimum temp for bacteria is considered between 70-140 which again, is why it's code to cool it from to at most 70 in 2 hours. Some bacteria may die/not thrive/croak/whateveryouwannasay at ~133 but it's waaayyy easier to remember to cook to 165, hold at 140 than it is to remember that e coli is 133, salmonela is xxx, shigella is xxx, etc.
 

Crusty

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Read this site. The 'Technical background' paragraph contains a great deal of information about food pathogens and how much they grow @ certain temperatures. Even though the site is about sous vide, the Food Safety section has really good information.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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So are traffic accidents, so the OP better start walking everywhere. Did you know that basically everything in the universe can kill you? It's true! Your best bet to avoid death is to never exist. Or you could stop being scared of minor shit and living your life in a bubble. Basic protection is sensible. Going overboard on the reactionary front just makes you more vulnerable in the long run.

Water is your deadly enemy!
 

ch33zw1z

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1. I don't microwave plastic
2. Yea, the OP is not a good idea. Put it in the containers cold.
 

rh71

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I've eaten 5-day old leftovers on more than 1 occasion so it's not that I'm paranoid - I wanted to get a general consensus.

So leave out the microwaving - got it.

What temp is your freezer?

To me freezing is freezing... the number can go as high as 6F so I've left it at that. Not sure why 0F would be better.
 
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