Folks that bought [Dave Matthews Band] Busted Stuff, what do you think?

[NFS4]

I'm really diggin' this CD (and the DVD) I especially like Captain, Big Eyed Fish, and Bartender. They seem to have gotten back to their roots with this one. The last studio CD, Everyday, was a rather disappointment to my ears (I don't know how it did in sales though). It just seemed as though Dave's vocals overshadowed the instrumental sounds that we've all become accustomed to in DMB music as an equal to vocals. I mean, there were no jam sessions or any standout instrumental solos in that album. With the exception of Sleep to Dream Her on that album (which I still think is one of their best songs), the whole album was a bore.

But Busted Stuff is where it's at. The instrumentals are back and blasting Bartender in my car at full blast was like :Q:Q:Q:Q I still think that Under the Table and Dreaming is the best (studio albums), followed closely by Crash (#41 & Cry Freedom...nuff said). Before These Crowded Streets seemed to have a darker tone to me, but I still think it's #3 on my list (Stone, Crush and Dreaming Tree own you!). Busted Stuff will probably end up going before Before These Crowded Streets in my rankings once I listen to it more. Everday just blows. That will always be dead last in my books.

 

[Red Dawn]

I just downloaded it. Hmm.. if you aren't a die hard lover of everything DMB puts out no matter the quality I would suggest you download this first and listen to it before shelling out hard earned money.

Blasting Bartender? If there ever was a song meant to play at low volume that's it. At best it's backgroujnd music that would sound best played in an elevator.

 

[royaldank]

I like the album but I was expecting a little more. Most of the tracks are exactly the same as the Lillywhite sessions when they originally made this album two years ago. They recorded the tracks and I figured they would either jam differently or change the arrangements slightly since they've been around awhile. Still, I like the songs and think the album is strong and much more Dave Matthews than the record label forced Everyday.

However, I do like the polished versions of the songs and think it's a good record. I like the DVD as well. The Bartender on there is great.

I'd say it's a good buy if you like Dave Matthews. I was bitter for awhile at how this record was handled, but who really cares. It's offically out now and it's better than them putting out yet another live album with the same 15 songs on it (however, the live release is coming this fall).

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I just downloaded it. Hmm.. if you aren't a die hard lover of everything DMB puts out no matter the quality I would suggest you download this first and listen to it before shelling out hard earned money.

Blasting Bartender? If there ever was a song meant to play at low volume that's it. At best it's backgroujnd music that would sound best played in an elevator.

Oh dear God, what would a DMB thread be without Red Dawn to spread rat droppings at our feet.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I love Dave Mathews and have heard a few tracks off of Busted Stuff, which I liked. So I will be purchasing this CD. I'm a big fan of his drummer/percussionist, of which I think is excellant. Reminds me of Jean Luc Ponty's drummer.

 

[pulse8]

I think it's pretty damn good. That may be because I knew most of the songs before they came out, but I think they did a good job of putting the finishing touches on the Lilywhite tracks and keeping their same appeal.

Have you gotten a chance to listen to the 5.1 mix of Bartender?

 

[smp]

Have you gotten a chance to listen to the 5.1 mix of Bartender?

Remix? Are they like Phish at all?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: smp
Have you gotten a chance to listen to the 5.1 mix of Bartender?

Remix? Are they like Phish at all?

I don't know. I've never heard Phish, but it's not a remix, just a 5.1 Dolby Digital mix of one of their songs.

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I just downloaded it. Hmm.. if you aren't a die hard lover of everything DMB puts out no matter the quality I would suggest you download this first and listen to it before shelling out hard earned money.

Blasting Bartender? If there ever was a song meant to play at low volume that's it. At best it's backgroujnd music that would sound best played in an elevator.

Oh dear God, what would a DMB thread be without Red Dawn to spread rat droppings at our feet.

well brandon, look at it this way.

at least he's open minded enough to listen to them before saying he dosent like them. thats more than can be said for many nowadays

 

[Red Dawn]

at least he's open minded enough to listen to them before saying he dosent like them

I have to just to quench my curiosity. For the life of me I can't see what the big deal is about the DMB. To me they are mediocre at best. I truly can't see the allure of buying an album with tracks that have already been released..especially uninspiring junk like Bartender.

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

at least he's open minded enough to listen to them before saying he dosent like them

I have to just to quench my curiosity. For the life of me I can't see what the big deal is about the DMB. To me they are mediocre at best. I truly can't see the allure of buying an album with tracks that have already been released..especially uninspiring junk like Bartender.

Bartender is a great song. I remember when he started playing it during the Tim & Dave tours a few years back. I really dug it then. The full band arrangement is great as well. Pop in the DVD and watch the performance of Bartender and maybe you'll start to see why it's great. The jam is really captivating if you like the song. You get into the groove early on and ride until they wrap it up.

But, if you don't like something, you don't like something. I think the band is much better than mediocre, but it's different. It's the subtle melodies underneath the jam that drives it along for me. During the jam, if you aren't interested in listing to Boyd solo, you can always fall back to the driving melody underneath that is chuggin right along.

Many people like the Chili Peppers and I honestly cannot think of a worse singer in the world. Some of the music is good, but everytime he opens his mouth I want to turn it off. I suppose many feel the same way about Dave.

One man's junk is another man's treasure...

 

[Red Dawn]

Many people like the Chili Peppers and I honestly cannot think of a worse singer in the world

Some songs I think his style is perfect for but on others Kiedis does stink the place up. Of course without Flea the RHCP's would be nothing. While I like a lot of their newer stuff it doesn't compare to older songs like "Real Men don't kill Coyotes", "Knock Me Down" and all of the "Blood Sugar Sex Magic" CD.

 

[NFS4]

I agree...the bonus DVD is great with the live performance of Bartender.

The thing I like about DMB is that it just isn't about Dave, the whole band is "one" together and the instrumentals that come out of that group are just mesmorizing. I love Dave's voice and his lyrics, but the actual music is more sweet to my ears.

If you don't believe me, just play #41 and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Red Dawn]

just play #41 and you'll see what I mean.

I just did ..twice and I don't see what you mean. That song does absolutely nothing for me and it surely doesn't distinguish itself as one of the better songs out there IMO. At best they remind me of Simon and Garfunkel without the great harmonies, lyrics or songs.

 

[NFS4]

I just did ..twice

Impossible #41 is 6:39 long x2 = 13:18. There was 9 mins in between my last post and yours

Anyway, #41 is an awesome and is definitely one of their best IMHO. All you do is talk trash about them...do you not like ANY of their songs?

 

[Red Dawn]

Impossible #41 is 6:39 long x2 = 13:18. There was 9 mins in between my last post and yours

I had downloaded it earlier and had listened to it actually about 3 or 4 times.

All you do is talk trash about them...do you not like ANY of their songs?

Actually Crush and What would you say are pretty good songs. I have them on my playlists. The others just don't cut it though

 

[pulse8]

Actually Crush and What would you say are pretty good songs. I have them on my playlists. The others just don't cut it though

Well, if you like Crush and What Would You Say, have you listened to So Much To Say, Jimi Thing and Too Much?

Those have the same energy as What Would You Say.

 

[Red Dawn]

have you listened to So Much To Say, Jimi Thing and Too Much?

I'm sure I've heard them all as I've worked with Fratboys at different jobs and all they'd listen too would be DMB. While those songs I mentioned were pretty good I definately don't think they are all the noteworthy.

I will say this about the DMB, they are better than Limp Biskit, NSync and Brit Spears. If I had to choose between all those groups and DMB and I couldn't puncture my ear drums, DMB would win out.

 

[BatmanNate]

NFS4,

I completely agree with you on this album. It has a slightly darker feel than their later studio stuff (with the exception of Halloween, but that's not entirely recent) but it also feels like it's retured to their original style, the everyday album was terrible, IMHO. I am a big fan of live Dave and Tim stuff for the most part, not the studio stuff, but after having seen the band live it changed my views completely. They just jam, and play together better than any band I've ever seen with the possible exception of Tool. (note that I'm not old enough to have seen Pink Floyd live, or that would have been up there as well) The drummer is incredible also.

 

[zippy]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I'm really diggin' this CD (and the DVD) I especially like Captain, Big Eyed Fish, and Bartender. They seem to have gotten back to their roots with this one. The last studio CD, Everyday, was a rather disappointment to my ears (I don't know how it did in sales though). It just seemed as though Dave's vocals overshadowed the instrumental sounds that we've all become accustomed to in DMB music as an equal to vocals. I mean, there were no jam sessions or any standout instrumental solos in that album. With the exception of Sleep to Dream Her on that album (which I still think is one of their best songs), the whole album was a bore.

But Busted Stuff is where it's at. The instrumentals are back and blasting Bartender in my car at full blast was like :Q:Q:Q:Q I still think that Under the Table and Dreaming is the best (studio albums), followed closely by Crash (#41 & Cry Freedom...nuff said). Beneath These Crowded Streets seemed to have a darker tone to me, but I still think it's #3 on my list (Stone, Crush and Dreaming Tree own you!). Busted Stuff will probably end up going before Beneath These Crowded Streets in my rankings once I listen to it more. Everday just blows. That will always be dead last in my books.

I think I'm going to pick up Busted Stuff this weekend. I didn't buy Everyday, just downloaded it, it wasn't worth my money. (I do however own all of their other studio CDs and a live one)

By the way, your opinions of DMB's CDs are the exact same as mine.

 

[zippy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

at least he's open minded enough to listen to them before saying he dosent like them

I have to just to quench my curiosity. For the life of me I can't see what the big deal is about the DMB. To me they are mediocre at best. I truly can't see the allure of buying an album with tracks that have already been released..especially uninspiring junk like Bartender.

The tracks were never released - only played in some concerts a few years back, so people downloaded the bootlegs of the concerts and that's why so many people know the songs from the Lillywhite Sessions. I, for one, never downloaded the Lillywhite Sessions - why? I don't know as I am a huge DMB fan.

 

[kuk]

Cool ... I love DMB threads.
First, let's take care of some things:

For NFS4:

Beneath These Crowded Streets

Uhhh, take a look again. It's not beneath ... it's "before".

Sleep to Dream Her

Yes, it's actually the song with best potential on the Everyday album. I mean potential because as everyone knows, DMB does best on live performances. I personally love it the way it is, but I would like to hear a longer version of it. From what I've heard so far, they haven't explored it well ... there's an obvious place for a Leroi saxophone improvisation, especially when the last solo enters (this could be somewhat of a #34 insertion ... listen carefully and you might see the similarities). This solo is extremely similar to Pink Floyd's Terminal Frost (from Momentary Lapse of Reason), which is something you might want to look into.

blasting Bartender in my car at full blast

Red might not agree, but I too think that Bartender is the album's sweet top spot ... but this might only be evident after the five minute mark. And although I like the BS version, I think that the LWS's is more powerful (but it has been a few months since I've listened to them, so I'll take a look again later).

The thing I like about DMB is that it just isn't about Dave, the whole band is "one" together and they instrumental that come out of that group are just mesmorizing. I love Dave's voice and his lyrics, but the actual music is more sweet to my ears.

This is exactly what I think, and I just hate when people refer the band as Dave Matthews. Unfortunately, I'm seeing a downward spiral regarding the band as whole. Take a look at the evolution of the albums ... it seems that Leroi and Boyd are less and less present. I'm not talking about solos, but the actual imersion into the music. For example: there aren't any eye-popping solos on Lover Lay Down, but the song as a whole reaches in to your heart. The same goes for Crush and #41: there isn't a need for a solo to grab attention to the music since all instruments work together to achieve this.

OK, now for some general consideration for the new album:
Busted Stuff is a step in the right direction, but it still hasn't gone back completely to DMB's roots. Of course, some people might think that the band evolves, times change and this is the new DMB. But after the Everyday fiasco, I think that what everybody wants is the original DMB back. It seems like the album is shooting at all directions (DMBs last works) ... but lacking to group them together in a single theme/atmosphere. You can take each and everyone of their studio albums and pick out one single sensation. I can't do this with BS. It's an extremely good album, and I will listen to it over and over again. But I can't feel it as a whole.

One last note (and Red Dawn can read this): I've listned in the past weeks to a band called Agents of Good Roots, after a recomendation from fellow ATOTer. While the band opens shows for DMB, it has many different aspects. It has more of a funk/groove feel, but relies primarily on piano, saxophone, and the singer's unique graspy voice. Listen to these tunes: Sidewinder, Where'd you Get That Vibe, Smiling Up the Frown, One Strange Land, and Hoping Waiting Longing. It's good music, that I hope will be eventually more well known.


Kuk

 

[NFS4]

Uhhh, take a look again. It's not beneath ... it's "before".

You know what...I have been doing that for FOUR years. I know what it is, but whenever I type it it comes out as Beneath I don't know how many times I've been caught for doing that on this forum

And one other thing on the BEFORE These Crowded Streets album, I don't listen to the whole first half of the album b/c I find the songs TOTALLY uninteresting. I don't pick up play until Halloween then jam all the way through to the end (even Spoon with Alanis).

On the Everyday CD, all I listen to are Sleep to Dream Her and Angel. The rest sounds like nothing that the DMB I know would do. It's all to "normalized" I mean, DMB sounds are loooooooooooong and full of life but every track in Everyday was under 5 mins -- classic case of trying to get more air time on the radio...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[LastStop]

I somewhat disapointed in Busted Stuff. Most of the songs are great but not nearly as good as the unreleased Lillywhite album.

Busted Stuff: Seems like it's not as upbeat but good none the less. Plus Dave doesn't laugh at the beginning .

Grey Street: I love the new version, it ROCKS!!!.

WAYG: Too slow for DMB, I still like it.

You Never Know: Listened to it once. Not my favorite but the tunes work.

Captain: Arggg!!! What were they thinking.

Raven: Good, but again, not as good as the LW version. It's not quite as upbeat and I love Dave's made up words .

Grace Is Gone: Except for the western style intro, I like it just as much.

Kit Kat Jam: Wow, wasn't expecting this from this album. A little more peppy than the original.

DAD: Intro is cool but overall I like the lillywhite version.

BEF: Dangit, wish they would have stayed with the original lyrics.

Bartender: It will always be a good song, nothing will beat the jam that the original.

Overall I think it's a pretty decent studio release however, I wished they released the Lillywhite version instead.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: LastStop
I somewhat disapointed in Busted Stuff. Most of the songs are great but not nearly as good as the unreleased Lillywhite album.

Busted Stuff: Seems like it's not as upbeat but good none the less. Plus Dave doesn't laugh at the beginning .

Grey Street: I love the new version, it ROCKS!!!.

WAYG: Too slow for DMB, I still like it.

You Never Know: Listened to it once. Not my favorite but the tunes work.

Captain: Arggg!!! What were they thinking.

Raven: Good, but again, not as good as the LW version. It's not quite as upbeat and I love Dave's made up words .

Grace Is Gone: Except for the western style intro, I like it just as much.

Kit Kat Jam: Wow, wasn't expecting this from this album. A little more peppy than the original.

DAD: Intro is cool but overall I like the lillywhite version.

BEF: Dangit, wish they would have stayed with the original lyrics.

Bartender: It will always be a good song, nothing will beat the jam that the original.

Overall I think it's a pretty decent studio release however, I wished they released the Lillywhite version instead.

How can you not like Captain??? I've been playing that song constantly Maybe I like it so much b/c he sounds (as well as the music) like Marvin Gaye. **I'm a big Marvin Gaye fan**

Lemme guess, your favorite DMB song is Last Stop?