Folding@Home bigadv EOL 3rd Anniversary Challenge: [H] vs TAAT

[TennesseeTony]

I'm in, 10esseetony, 4M-ish ppd.

 

[Shmee]

I now have over 18 million points.

 

[Markfw]

I now have over 18 million points.

Whats the ppd ? Unless you are using it for a few days at 100% usage, I can't tell by the stats.

 

[Skillz]

I'm in, 10esseetony, 4M-ish ppd.

Whats the ppd ?

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I looked at his stats and it appears he has finally started getting QRB on the WUs, but not enough for a full day. So he'd have to post what the FAHControl software is estimating. Though it's probably similar to what mine was doing ~11M PPD.

 

[Markfw]

Now that we know what hardware BWG has, we just need to find 10 people with 3080TI or 3090's to join, and we can keep up with him ! I only have one....Shmee makes 2 but he may not be 100% usage.

 

[Shmee]

Whats the ppd ? Unless you are using it for a few days at 100% usage, I can't tell by the stats.

Hard to tell for sure, but I noticed around a 4 million to 7 million PPD estimate when folding at the following settings: F@H set to medium power, and GPU power limit set to 85% in afterburner. Any tips or tweaks for increasing this? I don't mind fiddling around, but I would prefer not to exceed 320W or so for DC, especially if my room is getting warmer at certain times of day.

 

[Skillz]

Hard to tell for sure, but I noticed around a 4 million to 7 million PPD estimate when folding at the following settings: F@H set to medium power, and GPU power limit set to 85% in afterburner. Any tips or tweaks for increasing this? I don't mind fiddling around, but I would prefer not to exceed 320W or so for DC, especially if my room is getting warmer at certain times of day.

Are you not located in the Northern Hemisphere? We open our windows around this time of year so we can run all our pretty hardware wide open.

 

[Markfw]

Hard to tell for sure, but I noticed around a 4 million to 7 million PPD estimate when folding at the following settings: F@H set to medium power, and GPU power limit set to 85% in afterburner. Any tips or tweaks for increasing this? I don't mind fiddling around, but I would prefer not to exceed 320W or so for DC, especially if my room is getting warmer at certain times of day.

Well, leave the folding at full power, and set the GPU to full power... At least up to 90 or 95%. And leave you window open, its not that hot where you are. (60f). If you open Fahcontrol while running, in the lower right box, it says "Estimated PPD" and my 3070TI says almost 6 million ppd, and when I had mu 3080TI on it said 8-9 million ppd. Your 3090 should easily do 10 million ppd.

 

[lane42]

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Temps coming up in my town,

 

[cellarnoise]

When does this start?

I'm going all in and teaching the local squirrels math along with an unplanned new local family of several generations of squirrels, and apparently nuts, and zippers? When I started down this D.C. Rabbit Hole, I did not anticipate the squirrel factor and the budget for nuts and now they are telling me they like specific seeds?!

I do need some time as this is not as easy as it sounds, with squirrels :O

 

[Markfw]

When does this start?

I'm going all in and teaching the local squirrels math along with an unplanned new local family of several generations of squirrels, and apparently nuts, and zippers? When I started down this D.C. Rabbit Hole, I did not anticipate the squirrel factor and the budget for nuts and now they are telling me they like specific seeds?!

I do need some time as this is not as easy as it sounds, with squirrels :O

The challenge will start at 12:00 UTC January 23rd (time 0 stats) and ends 12:00 UTC on January 30th. (quoted from post number one by @biodoc )

 

[Icecold]

The challenge will start at 12:00 UTC January 23rd (time 0 stats) and ends 12:00 UTC on January 30th. (quoted from post number one by @biodoc )

You should have time to get the squirrels ready @cellarnoise

 

[cellarnoise]

You should have time to get the squirrels ready @cellarnoise

I don't know. This does not appear as easy as it sounds. The backstory on this is not easy to find, but on a fan forum. It was really about the demands of D.C. training. NOT Kidding

‘Psycho’ squirrel’s 48-hour Christmas rampage terrorizes town, injures 18

“It’s also attacked my two Bengals, who fear nothing.”

nypost.com

 

[Shmee]

Wow crazy squirrel.

 

[yodap]

Ok, so question here, how do I configure F@H so that when I start it, it will not start folding until I tell it to go? Basically, that way I can launch it, I can view stats or make settings changes etc, but it should not start folding upon launch.

If you don't want to fold at boot-up, add the flag, pause-on-start and set the value to true.
Do that in the advanced view and the configure tab.

 

[Shmee]

Well, leave the folding at full power, and set the GPU to full power... At least up to 90 or 95%. And leave you window open, its not that hot where you are. (60f). If you open Fahcontrol while running, in the lower right box, it says "Estimated PPD" and my 3070TI says almost 6 million ppd, and when I had mu 3080TI on it said 8-9 million ppd. Your 3090 should easily do 10 million ppd.

Where do I find fahcontrol?
EDIT: is that the same as the advanced control option for F@H? I just noticed that.

 

[Markfw]

Where do I find fahcontrol?
EDIT: is that the same as the advanced control option for F@H? I just noticed that.

well is this windows or linux ? If windows, it should be on the menu. If linux, its a separate program to install.

 

[Shmee]

Yeah windows 10 here. I think I figured it out. With folding power to full, and stock GPU settings, I am getting just under 8 million PPD estimated. Ok, now it says just over 8 million ppd and climbing.

 

[Markfw]

Yeah windows 10 here. I think I figured it out. With folding power to full, and stock GPU settings, I am getting just under 8 million PPD estimated. Ok, now it says just over 8 million ppd and climbing.

Ok, now that PPD WILL vary by unit, and a little even with the same unit. Maybe I will fire my 3080TI up, and compare times with you, as they should be close. When you get to 50% the PPD should be accurate. Reply back and let us know how you are doing.

P.S. I NEVER overclock my video cards. stock works good, it does NOT overstress the card. Just have lots of air flow around it, all my cases are open.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Something I've wondered in the past, for "time 0 stats", is it fine to let your Folding rig continue simply processing the workloads its been working on, or is it better to Finish, pause till start time, then start? Is there any difference between the two methodologies?

 

[Endgame124]

The 3070ti is now running. Current work unit is running at 5.5mil ppd estimated, so its not all that far off of Mark's 3070ti. I under estimated just how long this card would be and had to play musical cases to get my 6700XT, 1080ti, and 3070ti all running concurrently, but its all up for now. After the contest, I'll put a waterblock on the 3070ti and then play musical cases again.

 

[Markfw]

The 3070ti is now running. Current work unit is running at 5.5mil ppd estimated, so its not all that far off of Mark's 3070ti. I under estimated just how long this card would be and had to play musical cases to get my 6700XT, 1080ti, and 3070ti all running concurrently, but its all up for now. After the contest, I'll put a waterblock on the 3070ti and then play musical cases again.

And it will vary. Right now I am doing 5.8 on a 18201, and I have one 2080TI doing 6.2 on that unit, and another doing 5.8. That must be a good unit ! I have seen it as low as 4 mil ppd, but thats rare. 5-6m is the norm.

 

[Skillz]

Something I've wondered in the past, for "time 0 stats", is it fine to let your Folding rig continue simply processing the workloads its been working on, or is it better to Finish, pause till start time, then start? Is there any difference between the two methodologies?

The gains will be minimum, but you could ensure they your GPUs all finish a WU a few minutes AFTER the official start time. So you'd start a WU before the start time, but make sure they'd complete right after the competition starts. The trick here is to ensure you don't hold the WUs, because you'd lose a lot on the Quick Return Bonus. So if you have multiple GPU types you would have to start them all at different times to ensure they finish their work units right after the start. Each work unit, even of the same time, varies a good bit on how long it takes, so it would be really hard to get them to complete a few minutes after the official start.

Realistically, it's best to just start the day before (night before) the race starts.

 

[Markfw]

The gains will be minimum, but you could ensure they your GPUs all finish a WU a few minutes AFTER the official start time. So you'd start a WU before the start time, but make sure they'd complete right after the competition starts. The trick here is to ensure you don't hold the WUs, because you'd lose a lot on the Quick Return Bonus. So if you have multiple GPU types you would have to start them all at different times to ensure they finish their work units right after the start. Each work unit, even of the same time, varies a good bit on how long it takes, so it would be really hard to get them to complete a few minutes after the official start.

Realistically, it's best to just start the day before (night before) the race starts.

The thing is, if you have multiple cards, and they are 2080 or faster, they finish in 2 hours, so over a weeks time, its just not worth it to loose the bonus for idle time or miss something.

I say just lets them run. BUT... The whole reason you have 2 weeks, is to make sure they are all running at full speed, and all the bugs are worked out of your setup. This is only a one week contest, and no bunkers work for F@H.

 

[Markfw]

OK, so not a big deal, but I just got my 4th 5950x, but this one will just upgrade an existing 3900x. At least I will now have 4 of them, and they are worth 700k each in F@H if we are desperate.