Folder not accessible, access denied....

[taquim]

Hello all, let me give you the rundown. I have a few folders in my 2nd partition giving me this error "folder is not accessible, access is denied." They contain 3 very large 3-4gb files that were working right before I tried to organize them and move them to a different directory. I've tried disabling the simple file sharing and gaining access to them again, but it won't work.

I was a fool and did not defrag my drive for months, the whole partition was in red. While defragging with Diskeeper it does show the files that I'm missing as the most fragmented files. When I rebooted, WinXP ran a chkdsk on the partition and found a bunch of errors and fixed them. Ran Diskeeper again, and one of the large files is still fragmented, so defragged it.

So if Diskeeper can still see these files, then there must be a way to see them with another program or some trick to this. What do you guys think? I can't delete the folders either.

Running WinXP Pro SP2.

 

[andy04]

One thing that I did once for such a problem was to boot from a KNOPPIX Linux Live CD and surprisingly everything was accessable and I copied it over to different location... that saved my data !!

www.knoppix.org

Just in case if you dont ... You can download the ISO image from this website and burn a cd then boot from it. It does not need any installation what so ever and wont touch your HDD...

 

[KingofFah]

Did you try accessing them from another OS? There are programs like get data back (I think that's the name of it) that can recover lost files (hopefully).

After WinXP ran chkdsk the files were inaccessible? I've had this happen before where an OS in a multiboot environment corrupts the file system to other OSs except itself. Maybe run chkdsk from inside windows or from another OS with /F.

Edit: Just saw andy's post, that is another thing you might to try.

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: taquim
I was a fool and did not defrag my drive for months...

I haven't defragged a hard drive since 1999.

Does the account you are using have "Local Administrator" rights? If not, log into XP with an Administrator-level account and check the ownership and permissions of those troublesome folders in the "Security" tab of the "Sharing and Security" Properties. Ownership is shown (and can be changed) in the "Advanced" section of "Security".

 

[oOZo]

Sorry if the start of this post is a threadjack but KingofFah your Signature is not logically sound lol. According to your own signature the negative shows you the positive and the positive shows you the negative. This is a sound Philisophical arguement from the days of yore.

OK back to the missing files.

In Windows Explorer, switch to View-Details and then select View-Choose Details. Uncheck everything except the file name. This stops Windows XP trying to read the file - this problem affects many video, audio and graphics files.

Still no luck? OK, here is the best trick of all. Most sites give you cryptic Windows registry and DOS commands to remove a file, but the answer is so much simpler. Get a copy of MoveOnBoot. It's free and this simple tool allows you to Move, Copy or Delete files before Windows can lock or alter the files. The changes are made to your hard drive before Windows starts, hence it requires a restart of your system after you give MoveOnBoot its instructions. There are no messy boot or DOS commands, just a simple 3-step process.

Step 1: Locate the name of the file that is causing your problems.

Step 2: Decide if you want to copy, move or delete the file.

Step 3. Choose a destination for moving the file, or a new file name for the rename option (this option won't appear if you are deleting a file).

Click OK to confirm you want to process. The nice thing is that the program doesn't make you reboot straight away. It's a good idea to reboot ASAP, but if you are in the middle of something and want to wait, the program will simply run next time you start Windows.


If the file reappears again (check its creation date to ensure it is being recreated) and you can't make it budge, you may have trouble with spyware or a virus on your system (don't overlook the possibility it may also be an important system file). In this case you should get a good spyware removal program to scan your system.

OZ

 

[taquim]

Well I've tried everything except for the Knoppix boot cd, so I'm downloading it right now. Hopefully it works....

 

[KingofFah]

Originally posted by: oOZo
Sorry if the start of this post is a threadjack but KingofFah your Signature is not logically sound lol. According to your own signature the negative shows you the positive and the positive shows you the negative. This is a sound Philisophical arguement from the days of yore.

OK back to the missing files.

Found some facts on copying files in NTFS

1. copy will create a new file and permissions
to that file are inherited from the parent (root or folder )

2. moving files on the same partion only updates the the reference
to the objekt itself and the permissions are unchanged(internally)

3. moving files on a different partion will copy the file to the new
drive, (creating a new file)inheriting permissions set on the parent, and the old file are deleted.

Perhaps trying with the administrator login would help?

Also you aren't ever supposed to use chkdsk when running multiple OS's as chckdsk from one OS can make the file inaccessible in the other OS.

OZ

I could get into it with you if you want. It is a short sig that attempts to point to an infinite paradox. The sig only points to the logical fallacy of logic, that is, that one cannot assume anything in order to prove something, yet the first assumption is that of the logical rules.

If logic, then logic. If one of the laws of logic claims you cannot assume anything in order for something to be proven true, then if anything contradicts that law, that "thing" is not logically sound. If I assume the laws of logic, since they cannot be proven, then logically the laws of logic are illogical... this begins the paradox, since, if logic is illogical, then logically, it cannot be used to show that logic is illogical, since logic is illogical, etc, etc.

You only have ground to debate on if you first assume some basis. The sig merely points to the paradox of reasoning itself and unknown validity. I can easily go on forever, and don't want to threadjack, if you sincerely want to discuss this, pm me.

 

[taquim]

I don't mind the thread jack. I'm just here waiting for Linux Live CD to download so I can fix this problem. 30 more min......

If this doesn't work I'm formatting and starting fresh. I hate problems like this, it makes me feel dirty!

 

[KingofFah]

You'd format and lose those files? You can look into those data recovery things that I mentioned as well.

 

[taquim]

No I'm not gonna jump the gun so quickly, but I'm just frustrated. Well let's see if Linux can save the day.

 

[oOZo]

I updated my post to include some information I found after continuing to research this issue. Apparently there is a nice freeware program that can do a preboot copy/past/delete function on a file that may take your OS out of the equasion and be successful.

OZ

 

[taquim]

I love Linux!!! This was a great solution to my problem. Worked like a charm, and I was able to burn the files to DVD's! Haven't seen Linux for a while, it looks great. When is Adobe going to make their software compatible with Linux so I can get rid of Windows?

I'm back in Winblows, still can't read the files, I just don't get it. Well it's time to backup the rest and format the partition. Thanks Andy and everyone else. Happy Holidays

 

[Slowlearner]

While Knoppix is awesome as you just saw. An even better solution for windows users is UBCD4Win, it takes a bit of an effort to create one, but repays that effort within a very short time. Check it out at http://www.ubcd4win.com/.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: taquim
I love Linux!!! This was a great solution to my problem. Worked like a charm, and I was able to burn the files to DVD's! Haven't seen Linux for a while, it looks great. When is Adobe going to make their software compatible with Linux so I can get rid of Windows?

I'm back in Winblows, still can't read the files, I just don't get it. Well it's time to backup the rest and format the partition. Thanks Andy and everyone else. Happy Holidays

:thumbsup: Cheers Buddy :thumbsup:
With this live CD I once saved 8GB of music...

 

[btcomm1]

The solution to your problem about not being able to access those files from windows is, you need to boot into safe mode, go to the security tab, I believe the button is then advanced that you click on and take ownership of that the file folders and then you should be able to access them from windows.