FML

[XavierMace]

I find most the people that hate Outlook are the people that can't be bothered to manage their email.

 

[gorcorps]

Outlook is just a tall steaming cup of awful. Probably the worst email program I have ever used. Unfortunately, I'm forced to use it at work.

Outlook is great. I've tried several other options and always go back to outlook.

 

[Red Squirrel]

How many emails are we talkin?

Just did a CTRL-A on my work lappy, only 8k emails, but it took about 1 second to finish.

Probably a couple thousand. But we just got the new outlook 2010 or whatever is the latest version and it's bloody slow. It's a huge pig, and overall a pain in the ass to use because of how they changed everything. Completely worthless upgrade. The worse is they upgraded the other office apps too, but the way they did it is very strange because at times stuff opens with 2003, and other times it opens with the new version. These computers are just a total mess.

Worse is trying to move/delete mass emails in Outlook. Or heck, waiting for the damn thing to load. I use thunderbird at home and everything I do is instant, even deleting over 10k emails at once. (occasionally do that to clear the spam folder). I don't know if it's because imap is faster than exchange or what, but damn, pretty sad when super expensive software is crappy and open source stuff blows it out of the water.

 

[destrekor]

<3 outlook

although I've learned that how well Exchange is implemented determines how much you will enjoy Outlook.

oh yes, yes, very much this.

bad Exchange implementation pretty much guarantees any mail experience, regardless of app, will not be all that great. If on older Outlook platforms (2007 or older) - it's going to be brutally terribad.

 

[Ns1]

Probably a couple thousand. But we just got the new outlook 2010 or whatever is the latest version and it's bloody slow. It's a huge pig, and overall a pain in the ass to use because of how they changed everything. Completely worthless upgrade. The worse is they upgraded the other office apps too, but the way they did it is very strange because at times stuff opens with 2003, and other times it opens with the new version. These computers are just a total mess.

Worse is trying to move/delete mass emails in Outlook. Or heck, waiting for the damn thing to load. I use thunderbird at home and everything I do is instant, even deleting over 10k emails at once. (occasionally do that to clear the spam folder). I don't know if it's because imap is faster than exchange or what, but damn, pretty sad when super expensive software is crappy and open source stuff blows it out of the water.

Goddamn you. I was curious and hit Ctrl + A on a 9k email (626mb) folder. Took about ~5 minutes on my POS laptop.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Goddamn you. I was curious and hit Ctrl + A on a 9k email folder. Took about ~5 minutes on my POS laptop.

lmao :biggrin:

Once they are selected, try to move them to a folder. I triple dog dare you!

 

[Ns1]

lmao :biggrin:

Once they are selected, try to move them to a folder. I double dog dare you!

Nah, I KNOW that sucks lol. I'm pretty good about managing my active inbox folders (the 9k folder was one of my archive dumps)

 

[Red Squirrel]

oh yes, yes, very much this.

bad Exchange implementation pretty much guarantees any mail experience, regardless of app, will not be all that great. If on older Outlook platforms (2007 or older) - it's going to be brutally terribad.

That could possibly be part of our issue too. We used to have our own local exchange server and it got migrated to another one at the head office (thousands of miles away). I'd be worried if I was in IT right now, because they've been moving lot of stuff over to the head office.

 

[Mixolydian]

I liked GroupWise...

:ninja:

 

[Phoenix86]

Obviously you have never encountered Lotus Notes or Groupwise.

+1

Confirmed.

I havesupported all thre flavors and Exchange/Outlook is the best by far, at almost every version level.

.id files, lulz.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I liked GroupWise...

:ninja:

I never touched groupwise much from the client point of view, it was not bad (more responsive than Outlook) but the back end was terrible to manage!

Heck, all of Novell was terrible to manage. :biggrin:

From a management point of view Exchange/Outlook is not that bad, it's just the app sucks to use because it's such a resource pig.

I find nothing beats postfix/thunderbird using imap though.

 

[Ns1]

From a management point of view Exchange/Outlook is not that bad, it's just the app sucks to use because it's such a resource pig.

I bet my Outlook is a resource hog because it's chillin' on 1.6gb of emails.

 

[noobsrevenge]

ctrl + break ?

 

[Ns1]

ctrl + break ?

You mean to tell me that "Pause/Break" button is actually used for something?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I bet my Outlook is a resource hog because it's chillin' on 1.6gb of emails.

The biggest problem with all work email programs is cya. Everyone saves everything for ever and ever. There IS no email management.

 

[Ns1]

The biggest problem with all work email programs is cya. Everyone saves everything for ever and ever. There IS no email management.

To be fair, I only have ~120mb on the exchange server and everything else is archived on my personal machine.

And yes, I do dig into the archives fairly often to dig up emails to send to people.

I trim down my emails every month before archiving =X

 

[destrekor]

To be fair, I only have ~120mb on the exchange server and everything else is archived on my personal machine.

And yes, I do dig into the archives fairly often to dig up emails to send to people.

I trim down my emails every month before archiving =X

That's the biggest trick to management - because off-server archives and access to it anywhere doesn't exactly go hand in hand.

If it's on the server, any potential client can get all email. If most of your email is on a local archive, if you can't RDP/remote, it's rather useless.


I've always been one to essentially save all email. As one who had to deal with multiple people who had over 10GB on an Exchange Server, I do appreciate the idea of cleaning the inbox up and using archives.

But I cannot count the number of times I've either been away from a main computer (work or personal) and needing a very old email.

 

[Ns1]

That's the biggest trick to management - because off-server archives and access to it anywhere doesn't exactly go hand in hand.

If it's on the server, any potential client can get all email. If most of your email is on a local archive, if you can't RDP/remote, it's rather useless.


I've always been one to essentially save all email. As one who had to deal with multiple people who had over 10GB on an Exchange Server, I do appreciate the idea of cleaning the inbox up and using archives.

But I cannot count the number of times I've either been away from a main computer (work or personal) and needing a very old email.

Yep, but once again my hands are bound. Corporate limits us to 150mb so everything else goes into archive. When I need something from the archives I gotta RDP into the machine =X

The best strategy (for me) is to keep 1 month worth of emails on exchange server and move all older emails and emails with large attachments to the archives.

 

[Vapid Cabal]

Outlook is just a tall steaming cup of awful. Probably the worst email program I have ever used. Unfortunately, I'm forced to use it at work.

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