olds

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I have been battling back pain for years. A couple of years ago, I tore a tendon in my shoulder. The doc said I needed surgery and would be off work for 4 months and on light duty for 8 months. I said fuck that and went to physical therapy. I got back to about 85% and a couple of weeks ago, I ripped it some more. Hard to sleep at night with the back and torn tendon. Right now the tendon is throbbing and trying to jump out of my shoulder. Dos Equis is helping a little but even with benadryl I won't get much sleep tonight and I had to teach tomorrow.

Last night, a co-worker was killed on the job by a drunk driver. Two years ago I had to go out and identify another that was killed. He got hit by a drunk driver and his leg was severed. He bleed to death in a minute.

Now I am stuck in Indio and Banning California for the week. At least next week I get to leave for Big Sky Montana for 10 days.
 

lxskllr

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That sucks. Was your coworker working nights? I always hated the highway at night. You have lane closures and cops everywhere, but it's still a clusterfuck, and something bad always happens :^/
 

olds

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That sucks. Was your coworker working nights? I always hated the highway at night. You have lane closures and cops everywhere, but it's still a clusterfuck, and something bad always happens :^/

I just saw the story about the Cal-Trans worker. Fucking drunk drivers...ought to just shoot the fuckers when they do shit like that.

http://www.news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=106226&catid=2
Ya, Gary was working at night on another DUI accident when he was killed. The POS that hit him kept going and was stopped by the CHP at the first accident.
 

shortylickens

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If you ever feel like life is getting you down try some exercise (whatever you can handle). The endorphins or whatever are much better for your brain than liquor.

I have been feeling much better about life and stuff since I started back at the gym.
 

alkemyst

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In reality DUI is great for media and sad, but really not a major crime especially in light of how much focus is placed on it.

In reality, they use people's emotions to justify the steady revenue of busting 100's each week in most towns that had a bit too much.
 

Homerboy

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In reality DUI is great for media and sad, but really not a major crime especially in light of how much focus is placed on it.

In reality, they use people's emotions to justify the steady revenue of busting 100's each week in most towns that had a bit too much.

wow
 

Evadman

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In reality DUI is great for media and sad, but really not a major crime especially in light of how much focus is placed on it.

In reality, they use people's emotions to justify the steady revenue of busting 100's each week in most towns that had a bit too much.

Wow, you are a fvcking retard.
 

alkemyst

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Really...have you ever looked at really how many DUI injuries are third person and then at all the other violent crimes out there that never get any attention.

DUI is a racket since most people that go out and drink and usually afford the $5k+ fines.

For every DUI death over 100 are arrested on the books.

I am not saying it's OK to do, but you'd like me too just to whine about it.
 

Evadman

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For every DUI death over 100 are arrested on the books.

If the person is arrested for a DUI before killing someone, then the system works. We need to arrest more so that the difference between arrested and deaths goes up even higher. 100:1 success rate is too low.

Does that mean that everyone over .1 or .08 (or whatever the limit is in that state) will kill someone driving home? No. But a taxi costs $20 max, and a DD is free. Include the cost of one in your 'night out at the bar'. There is no excuse to drive intoxicated besides lazyness, or a felling that "I won't get caught or kill someone, it's ok". Find me some excuse to drive while intoxicated that makes sense and I will go away. Otherwise, take your incorrect assumptions somewhere else and let the parents talk.
 

alkemyst

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If the person is arrested for a DUI before killing someone, then the system works. We need to arrest more so that the difference between arrested and deaths goes up even higher. 100:1 success rate is too low.

Does that mean that everyone over .1 or .08 (or whatever the limit is in that state) will kill someone driving home? No. But a taxi costs $20 max, and a DD is free. Include the cost of one in your 'night out at the bar'. There is no excuse to drive intoxicated besides lazyness, or a felling that "I won't get caught or kill someone, it's ok". Find me some excuse to drive while intoxicated that makes sense and I will go away. Otherwise, take your incorrect assumptions somewhere else and let the parents talk.

A taxi will hardly cost you only $20 here, plus most places don't allow you to leave your car.

The fact is most people that were arrested would have never been involved in any issue with drinking. It's about a $5000 money maker per pop + the lobby behind it is the most powerful.

Even the founder of the MADD group doesn't agree with where it's gone.

BTW people drive while in worst shape than someone that had a couple drinks all the time and / or focus less on the road.

In the end it's an extremely minor number of people. Out of the 33,xxx deaths on the road way in 2009, only about 1/3 were DUI related. Out of those via "maths" as so many call it here, about 1/3 of those could be argued as a direct cause of the drinking. These are not your typical person getting stopped. These are fall down drunk people.

Also most of all DUI related instance are self-inflicted/self-damaging.

Almost every other crime in America is fall more damaging to our people, yet don't have the focus or fines associated with them as DUI does.

We should be focusing these same efforts against gangs...however; no one wants to pay for that with the DUI system the beauty is most can pay.
 

Wyndru

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Have another beer or three.

Si Señor!

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Jeffg010

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A taxi will hardly cost you only $20 here, plus most places don't allow you to leave your car.

The fact is most people that were arrested would have never been involved in any issue with drinking. It's about a $5000 money maker per pop + the lobby behind it is the most powerful.

Even the founder of the MADD group doesn't agree with where it's gone.

BTW people drive while in worst shape than someone that had a couple drinks all the time and / or focus less on the road.

In the end it's an extremely minor number of people. Out of the 33,xxx deaths on the road way in 2009, only about 1/3 were DUI related. Out of those via "maths" as so many call it here, about 1/3 of those could be argued as a direct cause of the drinking. These are not your typical person getting stopped. These are fall down drunk people.

Also most of all DUI related instance are self-inflicted/self-damaging.

Almost every other crime in America is fall more damaging to our people, yet don't have the focus or fines associated with them as DUI does.

We should be focusing these same efforts against gangs...however; no one wants to pay for that with the DUI system the beauty is most can pay.

UMAD? you got busted before...
 

DivideBYZero

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A taxi will hardly cost you only $20 here, plus most places don't allow you to leave your car.

The fact is most people that were arrested would have never been involved in any issue with drinking. It's about a $5000 money maker per pop + the lobby behind it is the most powerful.

Even the founder of the MADD group doesn't agree with where it's gone.

BTW people drive while in worst shape than someone that had a couple drinks all the time and / or focus less on the road.

In the end it's an extremely minor number of people. Out of the 33,xxx deaths on the road way in 2009, only about 1/3 were DUI related. Out of those via "maths" as so many call it here, about 1/3 of those could be argued as a direct cause of the drinking. These are not your typical person getting stopped. These are fall down drunk people.

Also most of all DUI related instance are self-inflicted/self-damaging.

Almost every other crime in America is fall more damaging to our people, yet don't have the focus or fines associated with them as DUI does.

We should be focusing these same efforts against gangs...however; no one wants to pay for that with the DUI system the beauty is most can pay.

Just shut up, back away from your computer and sell it to the first person you meet. Everything that comes out of your keyboard is pure drivel. Everything you ever post is either trolling or plain stupidity or a moronic combination of both. If you leave the forums now, no one will notice and everyone will gain 20 I.Q. through the zeitgiest as the forum collective will have become less dense by quite some factor.

Leave. Seriously. Just go, you're not wanted.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Sorry to hear about your friend Gary Olds :rose: :(

What tendons you damaged? My dad tore his rotator cuffs in both shoulders...
 

Zebo

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I don't know your back condition, maybe destroyed disks, so this advise maybe harmful but a few situps a day worked wonders for me.

If you let you shoulder go arnt you just destroying socket and that weakened tendon? Not a doctor that's why I pay and listen to them, you should too.:p
 

rasczak

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wow man, sorry to hear all that crap going on. my condolences about your co-worker. are you thinking of just waiting on the surgery until after you retire?
 

Zebo

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Really...have you ever looked at really how many DUI injuries are third person and then at all the other violent crimes out there that never get any attention.

DUI is a racket since most people that go out and drink and usually afford the $5k+ fines.

For every DUI death over 100 are arrested on the books.

I am not saying it's OK to do, but you'd like me too just to whine about it.

Pretty lame questioning and politicking DUI's in a thread where someones friend just died from a drunk driver.
 
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Sorry about your friend, man. And I know how you feel on the back stuff. I was a passenger in a head on collision back in 2000. As it occured I turned to place my hand on my son in his booster seat situated behind my ex wife (we got divorced that morning actually and were going to lunch together to celebrate). The force of the impact, coupled with the weird position I was in tore most of the ligaments/tendons in my left shoulder/back area.

I'd suggest the surgery if they give you good odds because ligament and tendon tears take forever to heal. They have no real blood supply like muscle tissue so that lengthens the healing time. I wish I'd gone the surgery route because even to this day the muscles in that area knot up so bad it's unvearable.

Either way, hope things look up for you soon.