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JMWarren

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Originally posted by: osgoor
Been flying off and on for 10+ years and turns are difficult at first. A tip that works for me is to look way out to the horizon and try to maintain the nose to that line or just a tad higher (depending on airplane). Glance at your turn indicator often to maintain the angle and don't forget to step on the ball.

Good luck :)

That's good advice. I've never had a problem with air sickness, even after alot of aerobatics. As for foods I'd suggest nothing hard...like Nacho's, they tend to hurt on the way up from what I've heard.

The written should be easy, the Canadian one was and we don't have training material that is as good as Sportys, from what I've heard.

The flight test should also be pretty easy, just practice to be well above standards and you'll be fine.

Feel free to PM me with questions!

Mike
 

skyking

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45 degree turns are not a second lesson manuver:)
I never had anyone doing steeper turns until they felt like they were mastering constant speed climbs and decents, shallow turns, flight at a given altitude. I doubt you covered all that in one flight.
I suspect that you were looking at the AI (attitude indicator) a great deal. Usually this is because the instructor placed an emphasis on referencing it for the "45 degree" part of your turn. You fixated on the AI, and that will get you into vertigo quickly when you are untrained.
The proper method is to divide your attention between the instruments and the outside of the aircraft, using the horizon.
Don't worry about feling a little woozy, you are hardly acclimatized to flying and manuvering yet.
Don't give up, and consider this. Not every instructor is right for every student.
I would consider a different instructor if you feel it is not working well with this one.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: dartworth
How much does it cost to rent a plane?
It's pretty cheap where I fly....
$61 /wet hour for a Cessna 152
$81 /wet hour for a Cessna 172
$120 /wet hour for a Piper Arrow

Originally posted by: skyking
45 degree turns are not a second lesson manuver:)
I never had anyone doing steeper turns until they felt like they were mastering constant speed climbs and decents, shallow turns, flight at a given altitude. I doubt you covered all that in one flight.
Actually, we did. He let me take off and climb out at 80 knots in the 152....then we climbed up to 3000, practiced straight and level flight, decended to 2000....did 30 degree shallow turns. He was impressed because I handled all of this really well. It was a calm day and everything went fast.

I do find myself glancing at the guages more to keep from losing altitude. I started reading up on vertigo and motion sickness. It seems that the problem is caused more from your body not knowing what's going on and the more you think about it, the worse it gets... Feeling sick is all part of your body's reaction because the feeling of vertigo mimicks what happens when you eat bad food. It causes salivation, burping, and eventually vomiting. The only way to get over it is to go up more frequently and get used to how flying feels.

I did alright last night, but after working on S-turns for about 10 minutes, I started feeling butterflies again. It was a little bumpy though because the wind was 8 knots from the north with 16 knot gusts. It made those S turns challenging.

 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
I know nothing about these small planes people take lessons in.

How many safeguard measures are there in those things?

If you mess up some maneuver, can the instructor immediately take over and recover?

If there's a hardware malfunction, are there ways around it so you don't die?

aircraft used for rentals have to be inspected by a certified mechanic after every 100 hours of flight time so they're generally pretty well maintained.

And in the planes I taught in (cessna 152's)... the engine system was very simple and very reliable. No electronic fuel injection... just a simple carburetor. the gravity fed fuel system did the trick. Aircraft that are used for training do quite a number on the engine and for these things to be reliable as they are says a lot.

Even if the engine failed... those things have a 10:1 glide ratio and you can easily get them to 35 mph on landing and still keep control.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi


I do find myself glancing at the guages more to keep from losing altitude.


Try keeping your eyes outside of the cockpit at all times. The only thing you need to look at is the heading indicator to stop your turn within the specified heading.

Did you say you were flying a c-152? If so, just use one of the cowling screws as a guide. Bank to 45 degrees... look at the screw in relation to the horizon and keep it there.

 

JRich

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Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
lol i got sick on my first flight.. damn heat.. it was 110 outside and about 120+ inside.. it was hot.. and i dehydrated and became hot and threw up.. ugh!

I swear i need a plane with an AC.. Though i like the new Diamond Aircraft.. if i had 300K or so.. yummy.

Open the vents :) It's pretty cold at 10K :D