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[DougK62]

Oh wow - Flyer got owned in this thread. You should've just stated your opinion and left - you have no arguing skills.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: nan0bug


You're conveniently avoiding the issue. We're talking about intent and negligence here.

His intent may have been innocent enough, but his actions were reckless. That is why he was/will be reprimanded. What didn't happen was luck. It could have potentially turned into a bad situation. If you fail to see why that is grounds for reprimand, then you're an idiot. But you already know you're an idiot and a troll, so I guess that doesn't bother you much.

You can yell fire in a theatre as a joke, and you can be a complete idiot and not understand how that could potentially cause people to get hurt. Your intent can be innocent enough. You can tell that to the judge, and see if he agrees with you when he sentences you for attempting to incite chaos/panic. Not because you had intent, but because your actions were reckless.

How can you say that his actions were reckless? Absolutely nothing bad has occurred as a result of them. Please explain to me how that is reckless. Because, in your mind, his words had the potential to start a riot? BAH! Do you really think a riot would have started onboard a commecial flight between a bunch of Christians and non-Christians simply because the pilot called the non-Christians "crazy" and suggested the Christians share their beliefs with them? If so, you have a lower opinion of Christians than they rightfully deserve. I can see this occurring if there was a group of Satan worshippers aboard that aircraft, or fanatical Muslim terrorists (no, I don't mean all Muslims are terrorists, before anyone says it) but between simple pagans and Christians? Nah, not gonna happen.

I didn't say anything about a riot. I said panic.

Also, I don't have a lower opinion of Christians than anyone else. I think everyone is human, and as such, they're all potentially dangerous. It could have occurred if someone on that flight was suicidal, angry, and waiting for someone to push him over the edge. The pilot is expected to know that at 30,000 feet, you don't want angry or scared passengers. You want people to be a docile as possible.

I'm going to conveniently ignore your ignorant statements about other relgions, although I will not forget for further reference that not only are you a troll but also a bigot.

Anyway, it didn't happen so there's no point in arguing about what could have happened. You can't claim that because something could have happened it is tantamount to actually occurring. I'd like to see you try that one in court.

I'm not saying it's tantamount to it actually occuring. I'm saying that its reckless and he's lucky nobody got hurt. Do I think he should be charged with a crime? No. Do I think its reasonable to expect that the airlines will reprimand him for his actions? Yes, and anything less would be unreasonable. Planes are for travel, not church services. The guy shouldn't be using planes for his missionary work, and if he can't separate the two, he shouldn't be flying commercial planes. Period.

More snap-judgements resulting in insults, eh? I could play that game too but, as everyone can clearly see I have not, nor will I do that. Please keep the "you're a bigot" comments to yourself. I don't hate anyone, I love everyone.
It's amazing that you could even jump to this conclusion despite my "disclaimer".
Again, how is an action reckless if absolutely nothing occurred because of it? You have yet to explain that. You say it's reckless because it *could* have occurred? Literally anything can occur at any point in time and no one uses that argument to debate this...

Your disclaimer doesn't excuse your calling people who don't, for whatever reason, believe in Jesus 'pagans'.

Also, even though your 'disclaimer' said "not all muslims are terrorists', you're basically implying that all terrorists are muslim. Just because you didn't come right out and say it doesn't mean you weren't thinking it. Why didn't you just say terrorist? It had to be "fanatical muslim terrorist'. Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh? He was a fanatical christian terrorist. Why didn't you say 'fanatical christian terrorist'?

You didn't say that because you're a bigot who thinks your beliefs make you better than people who believe otherwise. Even the bible says that above all else, saved and unsaved people are all humans, and born in sin. It also says not to judge others. I guess you conveniently missed that part. Maybe you should join the Westboro Baptist Church, they missed that part too.

You're also a troll who can't argue worth a damn. You start one argument and as soon as someone calls you on your bullsh!t, you either resort to personal attacks or avoid the argument altogether. You know you don't have a leg to stand on, but you don't care because as a troll your whole purpose in life is to start arguments and increase your post count. I don't mind feeding you, because eventually enough people will get sick and tired of your BS and you will get banned - hopefully for your ignorant, bigoted religious ideals.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I hate flying,I hate it so much I get airsick,all I'd need is some pilot doing this! I'd be frightened that he'd totally flip out and decide to take us all to see God!

That's right, because there are so many examples of this in commercial aviation

Way to have irrational fears there

There is at least one.

 

[MikeO]

Why are you people arguing with FlyerMax? Seriously.

He's right because he says so, end of argument. If he says black is white it is. If he says up is down then it is. On top of that he uses circular logic. You can't debate with him, it's completely pointless. It's like trying to debate with a braindead monkey, only more frustrating.

For the sake of your own mental health, please stop responding to him.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: conjur
I'm not insulting the Bible. I'm...heh...insulting the people who believe it WORD-FOR-WORD. That it is absolutely impossible for anything in the Bible to be incorrect. These are the same people who think the earth is about 6,000 years old and that an ark really existed.

Someone else posted in another religion thread up here something that I found hit the nail on the head. The Bible is about the human condition and is there to offer hope to those who believe. It is not meant to be taken literally nor to offer a scientific reason for things.

That's too bad, Conjur You can insult me all you like, I've got thick enough skin to take a few insults from 1337 intarweb h@x0rz
You're free to believe whatever you like and I doubt anything I can say will change that, just as nothing you or anyone else says to me is going to change my core beliefs. I believe the Bible is the word of the L-rd simply because of my own personal experiences and the fact that the Bible says so! You don't have to believe the same as I do, and I doubt anyone I've spoken to does or ever will. My beliefs are simply too radical for most people to ever accept as a possibility, and I don't have a problem with that. I don't need to belong to any group to have my beliefs justified, my experiences and the word of G-d are enough to do that on their own
Good day, and G-d bless!

HA!

I wasn't talking to you, flyermax, but feel free to continue making an ass out of yourself!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: conjur
So, again, flyermax, next time you're on a flight that's taxiing to the runway, go ahead and stand up and open the door and exit the plane. Obviously, you chose to be on the flight. You can just as easily choose to exit, right?

Actually, I absolutely can exit a plane whenever I wish. I may be causing my death by jumping out of a plane @ altitude but it's still my choice. If I really want to get off the plane I can do so at any point in time. I certainly can get off the plane while it's taxiing. All I need to do is get up and go open the door. Even if I am for whatever reason unable to open the door, there's no way that crew and that PIC want a passenger on their plane who doesn't want to be there. End of story.

Uh, no, you can't! See, that's just it. When a plane is taxiing toward the runway and you get up, the pilot will either stop the plane or return it to the gate for you to be FORCIBLY REMOVED from the plane. There's this thing called rules. Airlines have them. You must abide by them.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Oooh! There's a shocker! As soon as I announce I'm leaving the thread EVERYONE comes out to take one last pot-shot at me. It's pretty obvious who the trolls are here. I don't take pot-shots at anyone, I love you all too much to do so
Anyway, I truly am done with this thread now, the break is no longer temporary. ::and the crowd cheers::
Hmmmm, wonder how many snide comments this post will draw... I know there will be the obligatory and unoriginal "good riddance, get the fvck out, blah blah blah" posts but the question is: how many?
Have a great day everyone, and G-d bless you all, even the pagans

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Oooh! There's a shocker! As soon as I announce I'm leaving the thread EVERYONE comes out to take one last pot-shot at me. It's pretty obvious who the trolls are here. I don't take pot-shots at anyone, I love you all too much to do so
Anyway, I truly am done with this thread now, the break is no longer temporary. ::and the crowd cheers::
Hmmmm, wonder how many snide comments this post will draw... I know there will be the obligatory and unoriginal "good riddance, get the fvck out, blah blah blah" posts but the question is: how many?
Have a great day everyone, and G-d bless you all, even the pagans

Good riddance bigot, now if you'd just leave the forums, we'd be getting somewhere.

 

[tantos]

OOO oh no....the TROLL is back...Dude needs to be put down like dennifloss.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Oooh! There's a shocker! As soon as I announce I'm leaving the thread EVERYONE comes out to take one last pot-shot at me. It's pretty obvious who the trolls are here. I don't take pot-shots at anyone, I love you all too much to do so
Anyway, I truly am done with this thread now, the break is no longer temporary. ::and the crowd cheers::
Hmmmm, wonder how many snide comments this post will draw... I know there will be the obligatory and unoriginal "good riddance, get the fvck out, blah blah blah" posts but the question is: how many?
Have a great day everyone, and G-d bless you all, even the pagans

Good riddance bigot, now if you'd just leave the forums, we'd be getting somewhere.

And fvck off to!

count++

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Why does the pilot have the 'right' to say whatever he wants on a company's plane? He has no constitutional right to free speech in a privately owned place. He can't say whatever the heck he wants without any consequences.

You guys are arguing with a kid who wants to go to Japan to be an anime voice over actor. Is it really worth arguing with such a person?

Like I said before: please show me the *unconstitutional* law that says pilots don't have freedom of speech when onboard an aircraft. You can't, because no such law exists. He has every right to say whatever he desires on board that aircraft.
Oh, and thanks for the personal attacks. You guys keep stooping to new lows. I've come to the conclusion that it is utterly impossible to carry on a debate with you "non-believers" without being constantly insulted and attacked for no apparent reason. Way to carry on an intelligent debate

Besides that, just what does my desire to become a voice actor have to do with my qualification for having an opinion on this, or any other issue? Absolutely none. I'm just as entitled to hold my opinion on this issue as you are, but according to your statements I'm not.

Show me the law that says you can say whatever you want on private property or establishment without facing any consequences by the owner. You can't. He has a constitutional right to say what he did in public without the consequences, but not on private property. He is an employee on company (privately owned) land/property. He can say whatever the hell he wants, but he CAN face disciplinary action and can be forced to not say anything on PRIVATE property.

Now go back and practice on your future career of a great anime voice over actor. keke.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Oooh! There's a shocker! As soon as I announce I'm leaving the thread EVERYONE comes out to take one last pot-shot at me. It's pretty obvious who the trolls are here. I don't take pot-shots at anyone, I love you all too much to do so
Anyway, I truly am done with this thread now, the break is no longer temporary. ::and the crowd cheers::
Hmmmm, wonder how many snide comments this post will draw... I know there will be the obligatory and unoriginal "good riddance, get the fvck out, blah blah blah" posts but the question is: how many?
Have a great day everyone, and G-d bless you all, even the pagans

We're as happy now as you were when your 'flight school' kicked out all of those dirty Arabs.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I hate flying,I hate it so much I get airsick,all I'd need is some pilot doing this! I'd be frightened that he'd totally flip out and decide to take us all to see God!

That's right, because there are so many examples of this in commercial aviation

Way to have irrational fears there

This coming from the dude who thinks the world is ending?!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Oooh! There's a shocker! As soon as I announce I'm leaving the thread EVERYONE comes out to take one last pot-shot at me. It's pretty obvious who the trolls are here. I don't take pot-shots at anyone, I love you all too much to do so
Anyway, I truly am done with this thread now, the break is no longer temporary. ::and the crowd cheers::
Hmmmm, wonder how many snide comments this post will draw... I know there will be the obligatory and unoriginal "good riddance, get the fvck out, blah blah blah" posts but the question is: how many?
Have a great day everyone, and G-d bless you all, even the pagans

HA!

Yeah...it's all about YOU.

Wouldn't have to do with people leaving work, picking up kids from school, fixing dinner, etc. now, would it?

And, btw, I noticed you failed, again, to respond to any comments.

 

[Riprorin]

188 posts on this? What a waste of bandwith.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
It's so incredibly sad that a man can't discuss his religious beliefs with others nowadays or even MAKE A SUGGESTION that others do so.

If i wanna "discuss my beliefs" (which i dont, especlialy not with religious fanatics) then i go to church or bible lessons - but i dont expect that on a flight !!! Yes.we have a first amendment and freedom of speech - but this should also include that (god beware !) i am safe from bible-bangers and similiar at locations where its totally outof place.

And...if its true that someone calls non-christians 'crazy' - this just shows how incredible narrow mined and intolerant, not to mention stupid these people are.....and i would have good reason to freak on a flight if i hear such stuff over the intercom...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
188 posts on this? What a waste of bandwith.

Do you know that according to FlyerMax and his Protestant bro's that you aren't a Christian since you are Catholic?

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
188 posts on this? What a waste of bandwith.

Waste of bandwidth? Have you seen This or This?

188 posts is a drop in the bucket!

 

[Fatdog]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Actually, I absolutely can exit a plane whenever I wish. I may be causing my death by jumping out of a plane @ altitude but it's still my choice. If I really want to get off the plane I can do so at any point in time. I certainly can get off the plane while it's taxiing. All I need to do is get up and go open the door. Even if I am for whatever reason unable to open the door, there's no way that crew and that PIC want a passenger on their plane who doesn't want to be there. End of story.

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are.

Sure you can try to do that. But before you get the door open, you will be jumped by most of the flight crew and passengers. You will be restrained in a seat with the biggest person on the plane watching you. You'll have a nice visit with the local FBI at the next stop, a chance to explain that it's your right to do what you want, whenever you want, in front of a Federal judge, and the next 15-20 explaining to Bubba it was all a big misunderstanding, while he's bending you over the chair. :beer:

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: nan0bug
I think its being blown out of proportion if all he did was try to encourage discussion.

there's nothing against 'discussion' - even on a long flight when the pilot finds time to 'entertain' the passengers.

But let's leave the st*pid "'lets convince the NON christians that they're crazy..only christianity is right etc. religous blah blah" - kind of discussions out there. There is no point. Accept that OTHERS belief different things and accept and learn what actually 'tolerance' means.

It looks like the hardcore christians are always those with the LEAST tolerance, be it other beliefs, nudity or whatever. IRONIC, since i truly elief that Jesus (if he existed) taught 'tolerance' - but the christians obviously are the ones who did NOT get this basic lesson.

That's what p*sses me of so much....

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: flexy

Originally posted by: nan0bug
I think its being blown out of proportion if all he did was try to encourage discussion.

there's nothing against 'discussion' - even on a long flight when the pilot finds time to 'entertain' the passengers.

But let's leave the st*pid "'lets convince the NON christians that they're crazy..only christianity is right etc. religous blah blah" - kind of discussions out there. There is no point. Accept that OTHERS belief different things and accept and learn what actually 'tolerance' means.

It looks like the hardcore christians are always those with the LEAST tolerance, be it other beliefs, nudity or whatever. IRONIC, since i truly elief that Jesus (if he existed) taught 'tolerance' - but the christians obviously are the ones who did NOT get this basic lesson.

That's what p*sses me of so much....

I agree with you. I didn't catch the part when he called non-christians 'crazy' until after I posted that.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Alright, just like you all I can't stay away from this thread forever, but I'll try to make this my last post.
I just want to clear something up here: you all keep responding to my "I can do whatever I want" comment without acknowledging the fact that I've stated SEVERAL times now that one can do as they wish, but there are always consequences. I don't know where you all get the idea that I'm even implying that there are no consequences to one's actions. Oh, that's right, it's because you're all so blinded by your hatred of me you don't actually read what I say, just pick out little pieces that you can use as ammunition in your hate guns
K, I'm done now. Oh, and this thread is great, btw. Even though I leave the thread and don't respond at anywhere near the rate I was responding at before (I think this is my 3rd post in the last hour+ vs. what seems like a post a minute before) you continue to insult and attack me. Well, I guess some people need to feed their egos and can find no better way to do it than to continually curse me out and call me names. Do as you like, your insults don't hurt me
Good day, and G-d Bless!

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Alright, just like you all I can't stay away from this thread forever, but I'll try to make this my last post.
I just want to clear something up here: you all keep responding to my "I can do whatever I want" comment without acknowledging the fact that I've stated SEVERAL times now that one can do as they wish, but there are always consequences. I don't know where you all get the idea that I'm even implying that there are no consequences to one's actions. Oh, that's right, it's because you're all so blinded by your hatred of me you don't actually read what I say, just pick out little pieces that you can use as ammunition in your hate guns
K, I'm done now. Oh, and this thread is great, btw. Even though I leave the thread and don't respond at anywhere near the rate I was responding at before (I think this is my 3rd post in the last hour+ vs. what seems like a post a minute before) you continue to insult and attack me. Well, I guess some people need to feed their egos and can find no better way to do it than to continually curse me out and call me names. Do as you like, your insults don't hurt me
Good day, and G-d Bless!

I'm going to call your mother and have her ground you from the internet.

 

[conjur]

Sure they don't. You're probably crying at home right now.

"All those people hate me, mommy. Make the bad people stop."

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: conjur
Sure they don't. You're probably crying at home right now.

"All those people hate me, mommy. Make the bad people stop."

LOL! You guys are teh funnay! Words don't hurt me, especially not anonymous words from intarweb h@x0rs I still luv y'all!