fluorides is not good for you or your health.

wchou

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I urge others to do your research and even experiment with your tooth paste. spread it on the leaves of any plant, within a day it will cause it to brown and rot like rust on steel.
This medication is what cause you to not think, not care, and have only short term memory. Why do most people can't even remember what happened awhile back or have behavior problems? It turns an intelligent person into a retard.
Since 1954, Americans in general are a lot dumber then they use to be. Retardation in America is rampant and gifted people are nonexistent.
http://www.geocities.com/missionstmichael/Fluoride6.html

This same chemical was used on german prisoner or concentration victims.
"TO MAKE PRISONERS 'STUPID & DOCILE"

This is no joke, I am dead serious about this.
 

godmare

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My kids' pediatrician recently advised all of us against using fluoride toothpaste... but could you have possibly made a more scatterbrained attempt at spreading the word?
 

judasmachine

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Your posts remind me of Dr. Strangelove. Are those that drink bottled or well water, and use baking soda and peroxide any more violent or intelligent than anyone else?
 

Steeplerot

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Have you ever seen the movie Dr. Strangelove?

It addresses this threat to our precious bodily fluids.

edit: heh Judas jinx

Jack D. Ripper, played by Sterling Hayden, tells Mandrake, played by Peter Sellers, about the threat of floridation, first introduced in 1946.

JDR: Have you ever heard of a thing called floridation? Floridation of water?
M: Ah, yes I have heard of that. Yes Jack. Yes.
JDR: Well, you know what it is?
M: No. No. I don't know.
JDR: Do you realize that floridation is a most monsterously conceived and dangerous communist plot that we've ever had to face? [00:48:54]
 

glugglug

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3 things:

1. spread it on the leaves of any plant, within a day it will cause it to brown and rot like rust on steel.
News flash: You are not a plant. Well maybe YOU are, but not the rest of those reading this. Try pouring black coffee on any potted plant. It will grow much faster and likely larger than normal. Why are coffee drinkers not over 10 feet tall?

2. STOP EATING TOOTHPASTE! The warning label says you aren't supposed to swallow it. Ever heard of rinsing?

3. Retardation in America is rampant and gifted people are nonexistent. You are proving at least half of this statement to be correct.

 

wchou

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Too many websites are talking about it. Most us have been dumbed down since childhood and not realise we are ingesting poison everyday through tap water, fluoride tablets, and even in can foods or packaged foods such as frozen dinner.
http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm

The media would not like you to know this because it will put the fluoride industry out of business. First they convince you that it is good for you by brainwashing you second they sell this garbage at extortional prices. Average Americans are still left in the dark because no one is telling them the truth. The only way to stop this madness is to inform others and get this poison out of our public drinking water.
 

Dissipate

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LMAO! You believe everything you read on a geocities site? I'm not saying that a geocities site cannot have accurate and good information, but the fact that it is on there and not a peer reviewed scientific journal is evidence of conspiracy bullsh!t.

There are many chemicals/compounds that would poison you/turn you into a retard around that you ingest/inhale every day. The reason why you aren't dead or a retard is because they are in such small quantities that their effect on your body is so small it is immeasurable. Especially if we are talking parts per million or parts per billion.

Furthermore, your claim that since 1954 Americans are dumber than they used to be is a flat out lie. The IQ of the average person has been going up for decades. It is called the Flynn Effect. Text

I would say that public education has degraded significantly since 1954, but that does not have to do with intelligence, more than it has to do with actual learning.
 

Aegeon

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Originally posted by: wchou
The media would not like you to know this because it will put the fluoride industry out of business.
Just why would most of the media care one way or the other since most of them don't have a financial stake in the floride industry? There are already toothpastes without floride in them, so its not like toothpaste commercials wouldn't be on the air if concerns about floride became more prevalent.

You honestly remind me of Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove with the rhetoric you give on this subject.
 

dmcowen674

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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: wchou
I urge others to do your research and even experiment with your tooth paste. spread it on the leaves of any plant, within a day it will cause it to brown and rot like rust on steel.
This medication is what cause you to not think, not care, and have only short term memory. Why do most people can't even remember what happened awhile back or have behavior problems? It turns an intelligent person into a retard.
Since 1954, Americans in general are a lot dumber then they use to be. Retardation in America is rampant and gifted people are nonexistent.
http://www.geocities.com/missionstmichael/Fluoride6.html

This same chemical was used on german prisoner or concentration victims.
"TO MAKE PRISONERS 'STUPID & DOCILE"

This is no joke, I am dead serious about this.

Oh come on, basic chemistry and biology would be helpful here.

The plants wither because of extreme PH mismatch from the flouride, put anything in the PH range of Fluride and watch the same thing happen.

A little consultation with some folks on here before making such statements would go a long way.
 

Moonbeam

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It's the fluoride in the glass of the TV tube and plasma panels that is killing the American mind.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh crap, scratch the basic biology and chemistry classes, I forgot they were replaced with Intelligent Design classes by the Republicans, silly me.


Put the Colgate down, Dave.


:)
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh crap, scratch the basic biology and chemistry classes, I forgot education was replaced with politically correct, feel good/touchy feely, group think government indoctrination daycare centers/prisons.

Fixed.
 

hurtstotalktoyou

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I haven't really seen any scientific studies on the subject. Most of the information on the web is certainly suggestive, but ultimately not convincing.

One must also realize that fluoride does indeed prevent tooth decay. For working class citizens who can't always afford extensive dental care, that's a huge benefit.

That the Germans used sodium fluoride to make prisoners docile doesn't necessarily mean it had the desired effect. Furthermore, even if it was effective, that doesn't prove the tiny doses ingested through water would have any similar impact. Finally, the fluoride found in American water isn't always sodium fluoride.

As for the plant example, well, that's just silly. As someone above pointed out, we are not plants.

And I'm not sure how anyone can think we are getting "a lot dumber." Quite to the contrary, intelligence seems to be on the rise (this is called the Flynn Effect). The implications of the Flynn Effect are much debated, but they all but rule out the possibility that our intelligence is diminishing.

Now, again I should say that I haven't read up on the science involved, so I can't reach any definite conclusion. But nothing here leads me to believe fluoride should be kept out of water.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh crap, scratch the basic biology and chemistry classes, I forgot education was replaced with politically correct, feel good/touchy feely, group think government indoctrination daycare centers/prisons.

Fixed.


No shlt.
 

morkinva

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What business does my city have with putting fluoride in my water without my permission? I hope you know by now government(s) don't care about you. When the issue is money, as in the city getting sued, then I can see why they would add chlorine to prevent cholera or whatever it prevents.

This is an issue where they could get sued: you contract cholera and die. But what about fluoride? Why do they pay $450 a ton and dump this poisonous cancer-causing byproduct of aluminum production in my drinking water?? Because they care about your cavities? Gimme a break and think about it. It's put there because of the influence of special interests who need to get rid of this crap cheaply. Show me your link about how fluoride, other than topical application, is good for your teeth.


Environmental Protection Agency Unions letter to Congress - Bone cancer/fluoride coverup
 

imported_Condor

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Having lived overseas much of our life, we ingest nothing but filtered and/or distilled water. The mere suggestion of a taste of clorine in the water makes us want to puke. Clorine is for killing bacteria in the water and is added as well as flouride. Bacteria make our digestive system function and I suspect that clorine counters that. Obvious that lots of the liberals on P&N have some damxed good teeth, isn't it?
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: wchou
Too many websites are talking about it. Most us have been dumbed down since childhood and not realise we are ingesting poison everyday through tap water, fluoride tablets, and even in can foods or packaged foods such as frozen dinner.
http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm

The media would not like you to know this because it will put the fluoride industry out of business. First they convince you that it is good for you by brainwashing you second they sell this garbage at extortional prices. Average Americans are still left in the dark because no one is telling them the truth. The only way to stop this madness is to inform others and get this poison out of our public drinking water.

Not most of us...just you honey!!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: wchou
I urge others to do your research and even experiment with your tooth paste. spread it on the leaves of any plant, within a day it will cause it to brown and rot like rust on steel.
This medication is what cause you to not think, not care, and have only short term memory. Why do most people can't even remember what happened awhile back or have behavior problems? It turns an intelligent person into a retard.
Since 1954, Americans in general are a lot dumber then they use to be. Retardation in America is rampant and gifted people are nonexistent.
http://www.geocities.com/missionstmichael/Fluoride6.html

This same chemical was used on german prisoner or concentration victims.
"TO MAKE PRISONERS 'STUPID & DOCILE"

This is no joke, I am dead serious about this.
You have to be careful that you are not engaged here in some form of personal flattery involving special insight and unusual gift, that you in particular are free of brainwashing while participating in brainwashing heavily. There are tons of people out there who make a living catering to the paranoid selling the latest jolt of fear. I am not, I don't think, your garden variety of sheep, but I have used Crest for years and still even have one or two teeth. Anyway the path to truth, in my opinion is to be sincere. Naturally what sincere is is anybodies guess. Hehe. You have to be sincere to know what sincere is, I think. But anyway, it is want can't be seen that seems to drive people mad. Radiation would be one such thing or electromagnetic energy. You know cell phones cook the protein in your brain, right? And watch out for that microwave. And pay no attention the that implant in your ear or any missing time. Remember what Meher Baba said:

"I am the divinely Beloved who loves you more than you can possibly ever love yourself. Relax and be happy!"

 

alchemize

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There actually can be a strong argument made against flouridation of the water supply. Not by this twit, obviously.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Condor
Having lived overseas much of our life, we ingest nothing but filtered and/or distilled water. The mere suggestion of a taste of clorine in the water makes us want to puke. Clorine is for killing bacteria in the water and is added as well as flouride. Bacteria make our digestive system function and I suspect that clorine counters that. Obvious that lots of the liberals on P&N have some damxed good teeth, isn't it?




If you add a small amount of fluoride to your gas tank with each fill-up, you will substantially increase fuel efficiency.
 

Titan

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my grandfather was a biochemist and in the 50s when my dad was little he was very outraged by the flouridation starting. It does have a history of experimental use by the Nazis. They experimented with all kinds of things back then. It's sadly how we got a lot of data about human beings. What most americans don't realize is that the russians and germans and many other europeans were (are?) very serious about mind control and Inexplicable paranormal type things. When your country is thousands of years old, you tend to take the unexplained a bit more seriously.

My family has been screaming for 3 generations now to take the flouride out of the water. While there is conclusive data that topical application of flouride can prevent cavaties by hardening teeth, there is much less data on ingesting it in small amounts over a long period of time. This lack of good data can make it seem like a global-warming argument. But when I build a house I am having no flouride from a well or, if on town water, am buying a good filter that can strip out the flouride.

Anyway, there are a couple of important facts you should know about flouride.

If compaines didn't make govt pay for flouride, they would have to pay more to dispose of it since it is a dangerous carcinogen, that is a biproduct of the Aluminum manufacturing process. For you conspiracy theorists out there Alan Greenspan has/had serious ties to the Alcoa Aluminum company back in the old, pre-EPA days.

Over-flouridation is a problem for kids. Baby forumla can come from dried milk that had flouridated water from the milk source (cows?). Then adding flouridated water to make formula increases the dosage for a baby who is already overdosed due to size. This combined with flouride in (nearly) all toothpastes, can cause dental flourosis in children, making their bones brittle and teeth rotten. Many dentists have been protesting this for years. This is no way to medicate people, each person should be given an individual dosage appropriate to their age and weight.

One more anecdote: I don't mean to spread FUD so this is just what I know. I attended school in Potsdam, NY in St Lawrence country that has the highest per-capita cancer rate in all of NY, and they don't know why, the only common link is the water supply. To battle this, they have a state-of-the-art cancer treatment facility at the Potsdam hospital. I didn't have to be told this as the tap water smelled like a swimming pool and was chlorinated to the max, I lugged water from home in VT for drinking for 4 years of school. 30 Miles north of Potsdam, there is the town of Massena that used to be a big Alcoa Aluminium factory town. Upstate NY is full of factory towns. They closed down a while ago and left an abundance of flouride in the water, and a highway is dedicated to the aluminum workers, "The aluminum workers memorial highway." I have a friend professor who lives up there who has a well and tests his water every year. He informed me that there was a very real local problem with kids's getting broken bones due to too much flouride.

As far as mind control, the data on this is very hard to come by. Experiments need to be conducted and data needs to be collected. I have heard rumours that baby chicks will jump around out of your hand, but ones fed flouride will sit docile. I'm curious to know, but there are already enough reasons to take flouride out of our water.

I use Tom's natural toothpaste which has no flouride. I reccomend you find a non-flouridated toothpaste for your kids. If you want them to have fewer cavities, don't let them drink lots of soda or heap sugar on their corn flakes.