Florida State safety is now a Rhodes Scholar

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well he should forget about medicine when the dems come in and socialize it, he'll be rewarded for his hard work with a 50,000 a year paycheck and 1/2 million in loans.

Doctors in England make considerably more and the National Health Service pays them $200 an hour for short term temporary work. Some of them are making over $200,000 a year. And no lawsuits to contend with, no malpractice insurance, though the case loads are substantial.

Canada, Australia, most of Europe, and Japan have similar arrangements.

But, don't let the facts get in the way of a lousy conjecture.

-Robert

That just aint true Robert. One staff anesthesiologist I golf with makes 800K - another I built a house for, a orthopod makes 3m+...200K??? I think my vet makes more but I'm not sure.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well he should forget about medicine when the dems come in and socialize it, he'll be rewarded for his hard work with a 50,000 a year paycheck and 1/2 million in loans.

Doctors in England make considerably more and the National Health Service pays them $200 an hour for short term temporary work. Some of them are making over $200,000 a year. And no lawsuits to contend with, no malpractice insurance, though the case loads are substantial.

Canada, Australia, most of Europe, and Japan have similar arrangements.

But, don't let the facts get in the way of a lousy conjecture.

-Robert

That just aint true Robert. One staff anesthesiologist I golf with makes 800K - another I built a house for, a orthopod makes 3m+...200K??? I think my vet makes more but I'm not sure.

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well he should forget about medicine when the dems come in and socialize it, he'll be rewarded for his hard work with a 50,000 a year paycheck and 1/2 million in loans.

Doctors in England make considerably more and the National Health Service pays them $200 an hour for short term temporary work. Some of them are making over $200,000 a year. And no lawsuits to contend with, no malpractice insurance, though the case loads are substantial.

Canada, Australia, most of Europe, and Japan have similar arrangements.

But, don't let the facts get in the way of a lousy conjecture.

-Robert

That just aint true Robert. One staff anesthesiologist I golf with makes 800K - another I built a house for, a orthopod makes 3m+...200K??? I think my vet makes more but I'm not sure.

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

I'd say closer to 400K average
http://www.cejkasearch.com/com...ompensation_survey.htm

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

I'd say closer to 400K average
http://www.cejkasearch.com/com...ompensation_survey.htm

You would be incorrect. Most of those specialties are small compared to the overall pool of doctors. You know what the vast, vast majority of doctors are? Family practice, the absolute lowest end of the scale.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

I'd say closer to 400K average
http://www.cejkasearch.com/com...ompensation_survey.htm

You would be incorrect. Most of those specialties are small compared to the overall pool of doctors. You know what the vast, vast majority of doctors are? Family practice, the absolute lowest end of the scale.

average it out yourself it's about 400K

Even famprac is 190K, above your stated average for all doctors.

And is not the lowest either like you claim. Pediatric docs makes less.

Besides those stats only account for salary. Most guys who own a practice get dividends and finally capital gains as well not reflected there.


Oh I forgot mention the reductions to AGI from owning your own practice totally skewing these numbers downward. Business owns the Porsche, the boat and so on.

 

[palehorse]

That's an example of a damn fine young man. We need more of those...

/salute

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

I'd say closer to 400K average
http://www.cejkasearch.com/com...ompensation_survey.htm

You would be incorrect. Most of those specialties are small compared to the overall pool of doctors. You know what the vast, vast majority of doctors are? Family practice, the absolute lowest end of the scale.

average it out yourself it's about 400K

Even famprac is 190K, above your stated average for all doctors.

And is not the lowest either like you claim. Pediatric docs makes less.

Besides those stats only account for salary. Most guys who own a practice get dividends and finally capital gains as well not reflected there.

Why would you average those numbers? If there are 10 people in one specialty and 1 person in another, you don't average the salaries of the two groups to figure out what the average salary of the member is.

In addition, the numbers there are significantly inflated compared to the numbers reported by meta-analysis in 2005-2006. I guess those numbers are a few years outdated, but the UK numbers I was going on were from 2006 as well, so the comparison holds up. In addition, while we aren't taking into account dividends, we also aren't taking into account malpractice cost differentials between countries, where the deductible costs from cases can be more than $100,000 more than in other places.

I'm sorry, but your claim for doctors salaries is wildly inflated. Even if it were not Fear No Evil's statement would still have been stupid.

 

[SP33Demon]

Not everyone is driven by money, wake the hell up people. This kid sets the example for other scholar athletes.

 

[Genx87]

My understanding of what he is going to do is do this for a year. Come back and possibly play one more year at FSU then go into the NFL. When his NFL career is done he is going to medical school and get on with that career.

This is one smart driven guy. A real role model for everybody imo.

 

[ohnoes]

GMAT fail.

for zebo that is.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: eskimospy

The average doctor in the US makes somewhere around $175,000. (hospital doctors somewhat less) The average doctor in the UK makes somewhere around $150,000. (hospital doctors somewhat more)

Fear No Evil once again, has no point.

I'd say closer to 400K average
http://www.cejkasearch.com/com...ompensation_survey.htm

You would be incorrect. Most of those specialties are small compared to the overall pool of doctors. You know what the vast, vast majority of doctors are? Family practice, the absolute lowest end of the scale.

average it out yourself it's about 400K

Even famprac is 190K, above your stated average for all doctors.

And is not the lowest either like you claim. Pediatric docs makes less.

Besides those stats only account for salary. Most guys who own a practice get dividends and finally capital gains as well not reflected there.


Oh I forgot mention the reductions to AGI from owning your own practice totally skewing these numbers downward. Business owns the Porsche, the boat and so on.

Those are numbers for American doctors, it appears.

I spent two years in England and played tennis with a West Sussex doctor weekly (he also took me to The British Museum ). He's a Pulmonologist, and was making about 120K British Pounds a year, which is around $200K with today's exchange rate. But he's 55. A lot of younger doctors are making closer to 100K Pounds. Here are some facts, though they are a bit dated. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t...s/uk/article757261.ece

American doctors are generally getting much higher remuneration than their counterparts in other countries. English doctors are actually getting paid more on par with US doctors than their European counterparts.

NB: I note that Patricia Hewitt is quoted in the article above. Her comment is valid, but otherwise she may have been the worst minister ever in English history. Excepting perhaps the group of about 5 straight Home Office Ministers prior to Reid. If you think American government is awful (yes, it IS), be thankful you don't live under Brown's thumb.

-Robert

 

[chess9]

More on topic, this fellow is very impressive. I would like to think he'd do more with his intelligence than neurosurgery, however. Of course, the pay is closer to what he'd make in the NFL, and maybe that's the attraction?

-Robert

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Not everyone is driven by money, wake the hell up people. This kid sets the example for other scholar athletes.

True money is not everything but the way I look at is you're body only works till about 32 at NFL levels, while your mind stays in 'shape' until at least 65... lots of time to be a doctor later. Hope he has no regrets.

Either way outstanding young man whatever choice he makes.

 

[RKDaley]

A good role model. I wish him well. :thumbsup:

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Not everyone is driven by money, wake the hell up people. This kid sets the example for other scholar athletes.

True money is not everything but the way I look at is you're body only works till about 32 at NFL levels, while your mind stays in 'shape' until at least 65... lots of time to be a doctor later. Hope he has no regrets.

Either way outstanding young man whatever choice he makes.

Except the NFL can be physically brutal on said mind.