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Florida man charged with stealing Wi-Fi

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Florida man charged with stealing Wi-Fi
Practice is fairly common, but arrests are unusual

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Police have arrested a man for using someone else's wireless Internet network in one of the first criminal cases involving this fairly common practice.

Benjamin Smith III, 41, faces a pretrial hearing this month following his April arrest on charges of unauthorized access to a computer network, a third-degree felony.

Police say Smith admitted using the Wi-Fi signal from the home of Richard Dinon, who had noticed Smith sitting in an SUV outside Dinon's house using a laptop computer.
The practice is so new that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement doesn't even keep statistics, according to the St. Petersburg Times, which reported Smith's arrest this week.

Innocuous use of other people's unsecured Wi-Fi networks is common, though experts say that plenty of illegal use also goes undetected: such as people sneaking on others' networks to traffic in child pornography, steal credit card information and send death threats.

Security experts say people can prevent such access by turning on encryption or requiring passwords, but few bother or are unsure how to do so.

Wi-Fi, short for Wireless Fidelity, has enjoyed prolific growth since 2000. Millions of households have set up wireless home networks that give people like Dinon the ability to use the Web from their backyards but also reach the house next door or down the street.

It's not clear why Smith was using Dinon's network. Prosecutors declined to comment, and a working phone number could not be located for Smith.
 
I used my neighbors unsecure wi-fi on Monday when my cable went out and my cable modem died. Good thing they have DSL and don't secure their "free wireless hub" they got with their DSL package. 😉
 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
If the guy couldn't secure his network, he probably has no log of the guy on his server.

Your Linksys/D-link/Netgear NAT router is not a server.

Edit: Not counting the HTTP/Telnet config servers.
 
Originally posted by: JToxic
This could set a nasty precedent. What about the fact that he was on public land.

He did not get arressted for being in front of the house.

He got arressted for being on the guys network.

Remember that most of these laws are written by Lawers who understand that we have computers and yet have no idea how they work.

Also pretty much if you go into a network UNAUTHORIZED you are committing a felony plain and simple. This is a pretty cut and dry case actually.
 
Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: JToxic
This could set a nasty precedent. What about the fact that he was on public land.

He did not get arressted for being in front of the house.

He got arressted for being on the guys network.

Remember that most of these laws are written by Lawers who understand that we have computers and yet have no idea how they work.

Also pretty much if you go into a network UNAUTHORIZED you are committing a felony plain and simple. This is a pretty cut and dry case actually.

exactly quit stealing WIFI asshats! its illegal!
 
Originally posted by: AFB
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
If the guy couldn't secure his network, he probably has no log of the guy on his server.

Your Linksys/D-link/Netgear NAT router is not a server.

Edit: Not counting the HTTP/Telnet config servers.

My router keeps a log of all computers which have accessed it, and records their MAC address as well, so assuming he doesn't spoof, the hardware could be confirmed as his.
 
Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: JToxic
This could set a nasty precedent. What about the fact that he was on public land.

He did not get arressted for being in front of the house.

He got arressted for being on the guys network.

Remember that most of these laws are written by Lawers who understand that we have computers and yet have no idea how they work.

Also pretty much if you go into a network UNAUTHORIZED you are committing a felony plain and simple. This is a pretty cut and dry case actually.


Isnt there something about an unprotected signal being broadcasted into a public area being a legal thing to access?
 
Well I let ppl leech off my internet but I know my house is too big that you cant get decent reception outside =). Well I did leech several times when my cable modem died. Thank goodness for DSL and thank you very much neighbor.

I leech allt he time in Asia. Taiwan especially. When you have like 20 apartments in an area the size of my house's lot then its very nice to leech =).
 
i just took an old wireless usb adapter out to use on my desktop so it wont interrupt with my torrents when i game online. the neighbor is hardly online (the router dhcp gives me the first IP available, and i dont see any other clients assigned by router dhcp, i doubt he assigned static when he doesnt even turn on WEP or change the router default password)
 
hmmm...wow..."hey look, im not noticable in my SUV with a laptop on my lap!!! I'll just park it in front of this guys house and sit there for hours and never get out! no one will evar see me!!!3"

lol thats pretty funny.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
WPA-PSK here. Steal that, b!tch.

Isn't WPA-TKIP better than PSK? I'm not sure, but I'd like to know because I use TKIP right now...I'd definitely like the best. My keys are cycled every 15 minutes, too.
 
I think that anyone who leaves their WiFi unsecured deserves it. Don't people ever think that if they can access their router from down the street that other other people could too?
 
I feel the same way as Tikerz. This guy was asking for it. IMO people should wire their damn house if they can't bother with encryption. Running WPA-PSK myself and no issues whatsoever. While at any given time, there are at least four unsecured wireless networks within range of me.
 
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: JToxic
This could set a nasty precedent. What about the fact that he was on public land.

He did not get arressted for being in front of the house.

He got arressted for being on the guys network.

Remember that most of these laws are written by Lawers who understand that we have computers and yet have no idea how they work.

Also pretty much if you go into a network UNAUTHORIZED you are committing a felony plain and simple. This is a pretty cut and dry case actually.

exactly quit stealing WIFI asshats! its illegal!
Says you.

If they're broadcasting an unsecured RF signal into MY airspace, I'll do whatever the fsck I want with it. 😉
 
Originally posted by: JToxic
Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: JToxic
This could set a nasty precedent. What about the fact that he was on public land.

He did not get arressted for being in front of the house.

He got arressted for being on the guys network.

Remember that most of these laws are written by Lawers who understand that we have computers and yet have no idea how they work.

Also pretty much if you go into a network UNAUTHORIZED you are committing a felony plain and simple. This is a pretty cut and dry case actually.


Isnt there something about an unprotected signal being broadcasted into a public area being a legal thing to access?


There are "anti-hacking" laws that are going to superseed this. When you access a netowrk that you are not authorized to that is ILLEGAl. Morality may be questioned here but the fact is it is ILLEGAL
 
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