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Florida: Hundreds of Votes Cast Fraudulently!
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Paratus
Lifer
Hardly. Besides they already have to identify themselves.
Sure it could. Citizens without the correct ID who’ve voted their entire life would be prevented from voting.
Texas courts found about 4-5% of the voting population in Texas didn’t have the right IDs.
Plus you don’t get the free ID unless you have supporting documents. Some elderly minority plaintiffs took months to try and get new birth certificates and marriage certificates from multiple states and weren’t successful.
Your idea doesn’t fix the problem, causes massive voter disenfranchisement and costs money. But I guess it feels good.
Well, yeh, but there might be cheaty cheaters cheating the system! Might be some kind of conspiracy! Can't be too cautious about these things!
Vic
Elite Member
This is quite possibly the least convincing argument that I have ever heard.
But I am impressed that you managed to sidetrack the discussion away from how your party just committed voter fraud by proposing a 'solution' that you admit would not work.
In other words, you just told us that you support voter fraud when it's committed by your party.
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Vic
Elite Member
Hey, everyone know that protecting freedom means having an ID system so rigid that it basically requires that everyone have it tattooed on them at birth.
Sunburn74
Diamond Member
I don't see how voter ID helps in this case. If its an email, technically, the person doing the picking may be a child or a spouse or something and asking to fax a copy of the ID doesn't help either.
Besides if voter ID was the be all end all, most states would have automatic voter registration when you get a license or passport or in any situation where you have to show that license/passport to a state official (ie car registration for example in my state). Heck they could auto-register you at the airport if they wanted. Of course, though that'd never happen in certain states for reasons we know all too well.
They had a little issue with that at the California DMV. Seems no one thought to ask if the folks they were registering were actually citizens.
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Nope.
"The latest problem occurred when DMV customers, including some noncitizens, accidentally filled in the wrong voter eligibility response on driver’s license applications and asked staffers to make the corrections, the audit said. The revised responses were not correctly logged.
The error has since been fixed and affected customers will be notified, the DMV said."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/ar...y-have-registered-noncitizens-to-13291524.php
I live in Georgia and have known quite a few illegals that have valid IDs. Again your ignorance and bullshit is exposed.
ivwshane
Lifer
Sure and Hillary murdered people and allowed Benghazi to happen and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians.
/eyeroll
How does it feel knowing that not only do you fall for propaganda, you also regurgitate it?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/california-motor-voter-act/
The DMV was registering non citizens to vote. I'm not talking about ID's, I'm talking voter registration.
What we've exposed is your inability to read, and your tendency to be easily triggered. Now go be an ass elsewhere, I'm done talking to you.
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Again, you are misrepresenting what happened.
"The latest problem occurred when DMV customers, including some noncitizens, accidentally filled in the wrong voter eligibility response on driver’s license applications and asked staffers to make the corrections, the audit said. The revised responses were not correctly logged.
The error has since been fixed and affected customers will be notified, the DMV said."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/ar...y-have-registered-noncitizens-to-13291524.php
ivwshane
Lifer
sportage
Lifer
It's like with illegal immigration.
Congress and more so THIS republicans congress doesn't want to do anything that would actually interfere with that incoming cheap labor that so many of the wealthily rely on i.e. Donald Trump Inc. and small businesses.
Instead, republicans focus on building walls and heading off caravans using the US military. All only a political stunt.
Basically, the same goes for elections and voting.
If congress actually revamped the election process in every state from coast to coast, we'd no longer need recounts or hear of conspiracy theories concerning fraud.
But seriously addressing the voting process into a fail-safe operation, that would mean every vote actually counts. And every vote would be counted.
That would sure screw things up.... for the states that conduct voter suppression.
States could no longer suppress the vote, question the legitimacy of legitimate cast votes, and no longer target the minorities.
But as with illegal immigration, the very thought of congress touching this flawed system is a big no no.
Republicans would never spend the money or change anything that would interfere with this flawed system just as it is. And as they prefer.
Southern states have relied on this flawed system to control election turnout and outcomes.
And the rich need those illegals to mow their lawns, clean their pools, to clean their houses while THEY are all off campaigning for reelection.
See how it works?
And why nothing ever changes.
And why we wonder WTF is REALLY going on here?
In 2000 we had an election so flawed that the US supreme court had to decide it.
In two years it will be 2020, and not one thing has changed in 20 years.
Because.... "THEY" like it this way. Especially now that "THEY" have their right wing supreme court to decide flawed elections in their favor.
Congress and more so THIS republicans congress doesn't want to do anything that would actually interfere with that incoming cheap labor that so many of the wealthily rely on i.e. Donald Trump Inc. and small businesses.
Instead, republicans focus on building walls and heading off caravans using the US military. All only a political stunt.
Basically, the same goes for elections and voting.
If congress actually revamped the election process in every state from coast to coast, we'd no longer need recounts or hear of conspiracy theories concerning fraud.
But seriously addressing the voting process into a fail-safe operation, that would mean every vote actually counts. And every vote would be counted.
That would sure screw things up.... for the states that conduct voter suppression.
States could no longer suppress the vote, question the legitimacy of legitimate cast votes, and no longer target the minorities.
But as with illegal immigration, the very thought of congress touching this flawed system is a big no no.
Republicans would never spend the money or change anything that would interfere with this flawed system just as it is. And as they prefer.
Southern states have relied on this flawed system to control election turnout and outcomes.
And the rich need those illegals to mow their lawns, clean their pools, to clean their houses while THEY are all off campaigning for reelection.
See how it works?
And why nothing ever changes.
And why we wonder WTF is REALLY going on here?
In 2000 we had an election so flawed that the US supreme court had to decide it.
In two years it will be 2020, and not one thing has changed in 20 years.
Because.... "THEY" like it this way. Especially now that "THEY" have their right wing supreme court to decide flawed elections in their favor.
What's the problem with illegals voting. They live here illegally. so why shouldn't they vote illegally. The Republicans control the three branches of government and if they wanted to really solve the problem they could vote to do it. But if they fixed the immigration problem they wouldn't have anything to run on and businesses would turn on them. Republicans don't want to solve problems, they keep the going so they can run on them.
cytg111
Lifer
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brycejones
Lifer
You must be talking to yourself in a mirror. Now that you have been thoroughly and repeatedly pwned in this thread, one would assume that you will tuck your tail between your legs and spew your usual BS in another thread.
That's probably not physically possible at this point. It's water under the bridge. Andersen, the election supervisor, knew it was improper to accept those votes & did it anyway. There should be some sort of consequences for that.
Speaking of voter disenfranchising...Senator Hyde-Smith accidentally says the quiet part loud, but don't worry, it was just a joke:
"And then they remind me that there's a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who ... maybe we don't want to vote," Hyde-Smith is heard saying. "Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that's a great idea."
Get it?! We should specifically disenfranchise "liberals!" That's a joke.
"And then they remind me that there's a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who ... maybe we don't want to vote," Hyde-Smith is heard saying. "Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that's a great idea."
Get it?! We should specifically disenfranchise "liberals!" That's a joke.
zinfamous
No Lifer
voter ID is only really relevant for in-person voting, which these people couldn't do because of the hurricane. Voter ID is totally irrelevant in this situation.
hal2kilo
Lifer
That's the way we do it in the state above you neighbor.
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Pointed out to him twice with no acknowledgement and it appears that he's abandoned the thread as well. Should I be surprised? Nah, probably not.
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