Florida High School Shooting

[umbrella39]

Teachers can be as armed as they want to but just like me... NOT at work. I cannot bring my gun into work. No one other than the security are allowed to carry on Hospital property. We are not even supposed to park in our GD parking lots if we carry. EVEN if properly, securely, and legally stored in our vehicle while we work. The security are all off duty or retired Detroit police who all wink wink when the topic is brought up. If I don't know about it I don't want to know about it in other words... So I leave mine in my car...

 

[rise]

"He never went in," Israel said.

Deputy Sheriff never engaged and they wnt teachers to be drawing against ARs. Funny trump clown looks a fool again, your good guy with a gun didn't do shit.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

BS, But not surprised by the stupidity of the gun control thugs. Cops don't train much on guns, many gun owners spend far more time at the gun range than police.

cool story Bro

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

BS, But not surprised by the stupidity of the gun control thugs. Cops don't train much on guns, many gun owners spend far more time at the gun range than police.

LOL... such a good little ALTar boy.
Cool story bro

 

[soundforbjt]

Hannity is at CPAC, poor NRA being victims.

 

[nickqt]

ACLU wants to talk to you about that rule and it's problems. I happen to think that they are correct.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/disability-rights/gun-control-laws-should-be-fair

The ACLU doesn't have any reason to talk with me, at all. I pointed out to useful idiot that there was a law that was rescinded last year.

I happen to believe that semi-automatic weapons should be 100% legal. That street goes two ways when the shit hits the fan and the fascists come out into the streets.

 

[jackstar7]

I think fskimospy and others can accept that premise as plausible (if unlikely) if you can in turn accept their premise as plausible that a policy of arming teachers may lead to unwanted consequences like innocents being shot, negligent discharges, and others. I also think most would agree that an armed guard at a school presents a much different deterrent and risk profile than armed teachers.

Armed guard apparently presents no deterrent, since there has been one at multiple school shootings.

Armed teachers wouldn't change the psychology of the shooters into rational actors.

 

[realibrad]

Armed guard apparently presents no deterrent, since there has been one at multiple school shootings.

Armed teachers wouldn't change the psychology of the shooters into rational actors.

It likely would just probably not enough to matter. Most of these shooters target soft targets. They do this because they are trying to feel powerful. They usually want something easy and armed people will prevent some shootings. I think the real problem is not that they will or won't ship mass shootings, but that it will increase more shootings.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The ACLU doesn't have any reason to talk with me, at all. I pointed out to useful idiot that there was a law that was rescinded last year.

I happen to believe that semi-automatic weapons should be 100% legal. That street goes two ways when the shit hits the fan and the fascists come out into the streets.

Oops, following the trail back to the little fascista's posts I see where I got confused. My apologies.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Lost in all the discussion about arming teachers and lunch ladies as undercover John Wick clones

Couldn't you just see one of them reaching down in between the serving trays pulling out a desert eagle .44 automag and cutting loose at the lunch line?

As for Petersen waiting outside while those kids were mowed down read this excerpt and decide for yourself:

Peterson resigned after he was suspended without pay by Israel pending an internal investigation into his actions during the shooting that left 17 people dead, Israel said. Peterson was eligible for retirement.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html

There was no way he was going to risk himself so close to retirement and finally one of my biggest questions has been answered. He should've been one of the first people to contact the shooter but instead he cowered outside while the very people who depended on him perished. The county is going to get sued like a mofo for this.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The NRA and Republican Senate revoked an Obama-era rule making it more difficult for people with mental health issues to purchase guns in February of 2017, useful idiot.

Bullshit, check it out. You're just a puppet.
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/20...nd-disabilities-republicans-nra-obama-liberty

"
As Vox’s Matthew Yglesias pointed out, there’s considerable irony in President Trump pointing to people with mental illness as his main subject of concern after mass shootings. That’s because one of the only actions his administration has taken on gun policy was signing a congressional repeal of an Obama-era rule restricting gun ownership for Social Security beneficiaries who have a psychiatric disability and use a “representative payee” to help manage their finances (typically a friend, family member, or third-party financial manager).

The Obama administration framed that regulation as a rare step forward on gun control that did not require action from a recalcitrant Republican Congress.

Many progressive commentators have been quick to point out Trump’s hypocrisy and have condemned the administration for signing the repeal of that rule. As a liberal disability rights activist who continues to fight Trump, these people are normally my allies. But I can’t join them in attacking Trump on this issue because Congress was right to repeal this particular regulation. It would have done nothing to prevent the Parkland shooting and would have set a dangerous precedent restricting the rights of people with disabilities without due process."


That's right, i keep forgetting that you and your ilk wipe your asses with due process.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I am curious what percentage of US schools allow concealed firearms?

I've posted links to about 7 in this forum just from casual searching. Try looking for yourself.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Bullshit, check it out. You're just a puppet.
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/20...nd-disabilities-republicans-nra-obama-liberty

"
As Vox’s Matthew Yglesias pointed out, there’s considerable irony in President Trump pointing to people with mental illness as his main subject of concern after mass shootings. That’s because one of the only actions his administration has taken on gun policy was signing a congressional repeal of an Obama-era rule restricting gun ownership for Social Security beneficiaries who have a psychiatric disability and use a “representative payee” to help manage their finances (typically a friend, family member, or third-party financial manager).

The Obama administration framed that regulation as a rare step forward on gun control that did not require action from a recalcitrant Republican Congress.

Many progressive commentators have been quick to point out Trump’s hypocrisy and have condemned the administration for signing the repeal of that rule. As a liberal disability rights activist who continues to fight Trump, these people are normally my allies. But I can’t join them in attacking Trump on this issue because Congress was right to repeal this particular regulation. It would have done nothing to prevent the Parkland shooting and would have set a dangerous precedent restricting the rights of people with disabilities without due process."


That's right, i keep forgetting that you and your ilk wipe your asses with due process.

cool story bro

 

[imported_tajmahal]

How’d the armed deputy do in this shooting?

He failed as miserably as the FBI did, as miserably as the local police did and as miserably as the local mental health guy that cleared Cruz. If you gave a shit about the safety of your kids you'd homeschool them or send them to a private school.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Seems like teachers became teachers because they want to teach...if they wanted to become cops or armed security guards, they'd have chosen a different career path. Are the teachers who opt to carry going to be sent to firearms safety school, become range qualified, and well compensated for that extra duty/responsibility?

Why should any teacher be expected to put his/her life on the line for someone else's kids? THAT is not what they signed up for.

No one except lying sacks of shit expect them to be forced into it, if some want to volunteer, they can. As can administrators, food service people and custodial workers.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He failed as miserably as the FBI did, as miserably as the local police did and as miserably as the local mental health guy that cleared Cruz. If you gave a shit about the safety of your kids you'd homeschool them or send them to a private school.

but it's not the guns, it's never the guns, it can't be the guns, the guns have absolutely nothing to do with this, guns are a right, and I am willing to walk through the blood of children to ensure that right is preserved. Muricah!

 

[UberNeuman]

but it's not the guns, it's never the guns, it can't be the guns, the guns have absolutely nothing to do with this, guns are a right, and I am willing to walk through the blood of children to ensure that right is preserved. Muricah!

Well, those kids had it coming by being out in the open.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

but it's not the guns, it's never the guns, it can't be the guns, the guns have absolutely nothing to do with this, guns are a right, and I am willing to walk through the blood of children to ensure that right is preserved. Muricah!

Cool story bro.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Well, those kids had it coming by being out in the open.

doing that readin' and cypherin' up to no good.

 

[Paratus]

I’m just going to leave this here:

 

[paperfist]

Some more stats for you Skippy. Now go back to your crack pipe so you can muster up another round of denial

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html

Dang I don't feel so bad about my Battlefield 1 k/d rate now.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Cool story bro.

clever, you set a high bar for comebacks, I'll have to think a while on this one.

 

[UberNeuman]

doing that readin' and cypherin' up to no good.

I think it's important to note that the NRA/GOP take is that the children are to blame for being killed.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Cool story bro.

I’m just going to leave this here:

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I think it's important to note that the NRA/GOP take is that the children are to blame for being killed.

If true, I am in no way surprised in any way.