Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signals support for 'Don't Say Gay' bill

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fskimospy

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I just had a thought…

What if the intent of this bill wasn’t really about discrimination but something more shady?

Desantis signed this bill at a charter school? Aren’t private schools exempt from this bill? It certainly wouldn’t be constitutional. So why would he sign it there?

The conspiracy theorist in me says this bill is intended to created a teacher shortage in public schools and get more parents to send their children to private schools.

I wonder what connection his donors have to private schools? I wonder what if any stakes he has in private schools?


Convince me I’m wrong.
It’s to get him attention.
 
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I just had a thought…

What if the intent of this bill wasn’t really about discrimination but something more shady?

Desantis signed this bill at a charter school? Aren’t private schools exempt from this bill? It certainly wouldn’t be constitutional. So why would he sign it there?

The conspiracy theorist in me says this bill is intended to created a teacher shortage in public schools and get more parents to send their children to private schools.

I wonder what connection his donors have to private schools? I wonder what if any stakes he has in private schools?


Convince me I’m wrong.

Actually I'd guess this isn't about getting teachers to move but rather teachers to quit entirely. So they can then let private schools hire all their fucking right wing nutjobs and indoctrinate people with their insanity.

They already have been using charter schools to basically bring back segregation.
 
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ivwshane

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Actually I'd guess this isn't about getting teachers to move but rather teachers to quit entirely. So they can then let private schools hire all their fucking right wing nutjobs and indoctrinate people with their insanity.

They already have been using charter schools to basically bring back segregation.

Quit, move, or whatever, the result is the same, a lower quality of education.
 

jim barclay

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So, GOP will regulate teachers because we know they can't be trusted to do the right thing with their students. However, the police have carte blanche with little oversight because they will do the right thing??
 
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I just had a thought…

What if the intent of this bill wasn’t really about discrimination but something more shady?

Desantis signed this bill at a charter school? Aren’t private schools exempt from this bill? It certainly wouldn’t be constitutional. So why would he sign it there?

The conspiracy theorist in me says this bill is intended to created a teacher shortage in public schools and get more parents to send their children to private schools.

I wonder what connection his donors have to private schools? I wonder what if any stakes he has in private schools?


Convince me I’m wrong.
charter schools exist as a weird sort of public-private school. less regulated than publics but more regulated than fully private schools. an exmption for private schools might not operate as an exemption for charters if they're organized pursuant to separate chapters of the legislative code.
 
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IronWing

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So, GOP will regulate teachers because we know they can't be trusted to do the right thing with their students. However, the police have carte blanche with little oversight because they will do the right thing??
That’s because police officers carry guns while teachers can only offer ideas. Guns > ideas every time.
 

Homerboy

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That's not even the meat of the bill. That's the smokescreen on the bill to make it look like it's ONLY there to protect children that are under 3rd grade. And it's bullshit,. After that line in the bill it is entirely open-ended and allows for basically ANYONE that feels SOMETHING said to ANY AGED kid is "inappropriate" to sue the school/teacher/etc. That's the hook.

If I'm living in Florida, and I had a HS aged kid, as soon as a teacher mentions "husband and wife" or "boyfriend and girlfriend" I'm going to scream fucking bloody murder. They are CLEARLY forcing sexual preferences to my kid that I personally find offensive and "inappropriate" for my teenage child. I would make them explain that my complaint is not valid as heterosexuality is the assumption. Which would then highlight (to I'm sure still unwilling to admit eyes) that the bill is clearly targeted and homosexuality and basically anything in the LGBTQ+ spectrum

These people that write these bills are not stupid. They know what they are doing and how they word things. Nothing is not intentional. They are not dumb - they are hateful and fuckheads, but they are not dumb.

Ha! They're doing pretty much what I said!

 
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Quit, move, or whatever, the result is the same, a lower quality of education.

You're really downplaying their goal. This is about them wanting to indoctrinate kids like they've been claiming liberals are doing.

At some point you fuckers will wake up, right? Literally everything they scream about and make up conspiracies claiming, they themselves are perpetrating.
 

Captante

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Billboards being posted in multiple Florida cities. :)

eric-adams-florida-campaign-04.jpg


eric-adams-florida-campaign-06.jpg


You would think the state of Florida would get tired of being a national disgrace.
 

sportage

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The Q's have found their new weapon, using THE CHILDREN as a weapon, and labeling any who dare oppose what the Q's promote as pedophiles. One thing these DeSantis people have learned and have learned quite well is right out of the Adolf Hitler playbook. That, you must demonize your opponent to the fullest, to relabel your opponent so that all will hate the opponent to the fullest. To hate as much as necessary to obtain the goal. Exactly what Adolf Hitler successfully pulled against the Jews.

If you look at Nazi history, the Nazis relabeled Jews as child molesters, monsters, devils, and with plenty of graphics to push the point. Today, with the Q's and I say Q's not as a people but as a movement just as Nazism used to attack what in America they disagree with. The courts legalized marriage equality, and the court was the final decision until the mindset of the Q's came along. This new attack on America from the Q mindset need only label their opponent as pedophile, as pedophiles coming after the children. This way, everyone will fully hate the gay and trans community, everyone will hate the Black community, and everyone will hate the democrat. Their goal is for the democrat party to be thought of as the party of the pedophile, and they know that everyone hates a pedophile. Hell.... even for a democrat to be a member of the democrat party will suggest to that democrat that he or she is considered a pedophile and you will see a mass exodus of democrats from the democrat party by guilt of association.

Adolf Hitler forced Jews into hiding, DeSantis and those like him will force democrats into hiding and into denial of their own party. When even the democrat start believing that democrats are pedophiles, that will be the end of not only the democratic party but also the end of the two party system. Eventually leading to the end of marriage equality, any hopes for gay and trans rights, and the end of acceptance. The evils of Adolf Hitler reborn and revised.
 
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sportage

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Ps

There is a movie you can watch for free that illustrates how the DeSantis Q mindset operates, and including the mindset of recent elected school boards across the country who are now enabled by the Q mindset.

Watch the movie and replace the intruder character of Adam Cramer with all of those that promote the hate i.e. the "intruder's" of DeSantis, Trump, Cruz, and so many other "intruder's" now within the republican party of today. And replace the "N" word used often in this movie with the words gays, transgenders, etc.


Too bad the ending in the movie isn't the ending in real life.
 
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zinfamous

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So why would DeSantis sign the 'Don't say gay bill' at a charter school where the law doesn't even apply. And everyone in this picture looks quite gay.

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real children of the corn vibe going on here.

Also, why are all the adults in this picture such obvious pedophiles? Is that just default for the rightwing in this country, now?
 
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zinfamous

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I just had a thought…

What if the intent of this bill wasn’t really about discrimination but something more shady?

Desantis signed this bill at a charter school? Aren’t private schools exempt from this bill? It certainly wouldn’t be constitutional. So why would he sign it there?

The conspiracy theorist in me says this bill is intended to created a teacher shortage in public schools and get more parents to send their children to private schools.

I wonder what connection his donors have to private schools? I wonder what if any stakes he has in private schools?


Convince me I’m wrong.

It's all part of the long-going "School Choice" movement that rightwingers just can't stop pushing for a century now. It really got started with the Scopes, anti-evolution trial in Tennessee back in the 20s (the previous 20s). All of these "social issues" are just masks for the wider pro-segregationist, pro theocratic subjugation of American democracy that conservatives have forever desired.

The proponents of banning evolution (ne, science) education at the time, no different from today, was about snowflake parents wanting to move their children into "friendly" schools that would keep the familial indoctrination of their bronze-aged lifestyle intact.

Hell, the nation's religious leaders of the time wrote some 1k+ letters condemning the anti-evolution movement. Ostensibly, the science was settled, they argued, and that religion has no place in the teaching of science.

That was the 1920s. Amazing to think how American theocratic conservatives have moved quite a bit backwards over 100 years. They aren't Regressives for nothing.