Flash, now on the iPad

[Bateluer]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/04/flash-10-1-ported-to-ipad-burninates-the-countryside-video/

Take it with a grain of salt, but it's looking like some prayers have been answered on this Fourth of July -- Flash (or is that "Frash"?) is running on this man's iPad, cleverly ported from Android. The YouTube video claims that by using a compatibility layer, the Android runtime can play Flash content natively in Safari, but only on iPad so far -- iPhone 3GS support is planned soon, as is iOS 4, and there's a call for developers to move the project forward at GitHub. We've no way of determining its legitimacy at this moment, but it sure seems like Comex (he of the iPad "Spirit" jailbreak) has outdone himself this time, and hey, where there's smoke, there's fire, right? See Strongbad answer emails on iOS, right after the break.

Can't keep the good devs down. Choice to the people.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I can't imagine the amount of knowledge needed to do such a thing. Just looking at the source code to this webpage makes my head spin. Hats off to these guys and about damned time!

 

[theeedude]

I am sure Apple is working hard to break this.

 

[zerocool84]

but but but no one wants Flash............

 

[Fingolfin269]

but but but no one wants Flash............

Which is why this work around will be patched out of commission pronto. Don't worry.

 

[jonesthewine]

Flash is going to eat up battery life in no time, right? On my MBPro, watching MLB.TV for an hour runs the Core2 Duo red-hot and sucks the 7 hour battery life down in a couple of hours...

 

[Fingolfin269]

Flash is going to eat up battery life in no time, right? On my MBPro, watching MLB.TV for an hour runs the Core2 Duo red-hot and sucks the 7 hour battery life down in a couple of hours...

To be fair, watching a DVD will suck the battery life down in a couple of hours as well. At least that's how it is on my MBP.

 

[TheStu]

I am interested in seeing battery analysis. And honestly, there has been nothing stopping Adobe from doing the same thing. Yes, Jobs came out and said that Flash sucks, and that it's sister is ugly, but Adobe dropped the ball too. They failed to deliver a good version of Flash for OS X, failed to deliver a version for iOS, and took their sweet time to deliver a version to Android.

Any Android users here want to report on battery life/heat on their devices after installing Flash?

 

[Bateluer]

Here's you how to guide.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/how-to-install-flash-on-your-jailbroken-ipad-for-real/

 

[QueBert]

I am sure Apple is working hard to break this.

So they're not working at all? You have to do next to nothing seeing how Flash sucks. I'd bet Apple will secretly love this, even if they come out talking about being totally against it. Flash sucks on mobile devices, and with this everyone will be able to see why Apple has been preaching against Flash so hard for years now. They can go "I told you so!" it's a win/win for Apple.

 

[theeedude]

Keep telling yourself that Flash sucks on mobile devices:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/

 

[QueBert]

Keep telling yourself that Flash sucks on mobile devices:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/

It does suck, and I own an Android phone which I'll never be installing the Flash plugin on. I watched somebody playing FarmVille on a cell phone the other day and had to laugh at how shitty it was. The fact people want Flash on their phones means next to nothing to me. People want anything that's shiny and new. Seeing how I don't access a single web site where Flash is used for anything except ad's. I'm perfectly happy with my Moto Droid that lacks Flash capabilities. Flash sucks on a desktop, but you expect me believe what's said in the article you linked. One where I'm sure they make it out like the mobile version is uberly great? bahaha.


The sooner Flash dies the better...

 

[zerocool84]

It does suck, and I own an Android phone which I'll never be installing the Flash plugin on. I watched somebody playing FarmVille on a cell phone the other day and had to laugh at how shitty it was. The fact people want Flash on their phones means next to nothing to me. People want anything that's shiny and new. Seeing how I don't access a single web site where Flash is used for anything except ad's. I'm perfectly happy with my Moto Droid that lacks Flash capabilities. Flash sucks on a desktop, but you expect me believe what's said in the article you linked. One where I'm sure they make it out like the mobile version is uberly great? bahaha.


The sooner Flash dies the better...

You're an Apple fan so we know you have to hate Flash or else Jobs will hate you.

 

[Bateluer]

It does suck, and I own an Android phone which I'll never be installing the Flash plugin on. I watched somebody playing FarmVille on a cell phone the other day and had to laugh at how shitty it was. The fact people want Flash on their phones means next to nothing to me. People want anything that's shiny and new. Seeing how I don't access a single web site where Flash is used for anything except ad's. I'm perfectly happy with my Moto Droid that lacks Flash capabilities. Flash sucks on a desktop, but you expect me believe what's said in the article you linked. One where I'm sure they make it out like the mobile version is uberly great? bahaha.


The sooner Flash dies the better...

Isn't it great to have an Android phone and be able to make that choice yourself? Your phone, you decide what apps and plugins go on it, not Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, or Eric Schmidt. Choice, its a beautiful thing.

I intend to install Flash on my Droid once CM6 arrives. Played with it briefly on some of my Froyo leak tests. It does suck battery, but when your on a long drive plugging the Droid in the car mount and loading up Hulu makes for plenty of entertainment.

PS: Farmville sucks no matter what. Doesn't matter whether its Flash, Silverlight, HTML5, Google Go, C#, C++, Assembler, it'd still blow.

Edit - I also think its amusing that there wasn't any widespread hatred of Flash until Jobs spoke against it, and then the next day large numbers of people were trashing Flash. The same people, who the day prior where playing back Hulu videos and raving about how great it was.

 

[Fingolfin269]

So they're not working at all? You have to do next to nothing seeing how Flash sucks. I'd bet Apple will secretly love this, even if they come out talking about being totally against it. Flash sucks on mobile devices, and with this everyone will be able to see why Apple has been preaching against Flash so hard for years now. They can go "I told you so!" it's a win/win for Apple.

For most people it isn't about whether Flash sucks or not. It's the fact that you can't even access the mobile content that is only delivered via Flash. Let the consumer decide if they want to put up with Flash sucking instead of driving an agenda. That's the real problem here. It's not whether it sucks it's whether the consumer should have a choice. And I guess they do... as long as this isn't patched into Oblivion by Apple.

 

[theeedude]

Flash is here to stay, so a smartphone, and especially a tablet, better support it. The main use of such device is to access the web, the way it is now, not the way Steve wants it to be. As far as performance, Moore's law applies to smartphones just as much as PC's. Every new phone generation raises the bar on performance, and makes Flash perform smoother and better, even aside from the work Adobe is doing optimizing it for mobile devices. So unless Steve figures out a way to stop the progress of time, he is going to have to get with the program, and that program is Adobe Flash

 

[alkemyst]

wattaymean I frash I lose?

 

[zerocool84]

Now with this the iPad commercial makes sense cus in the commercial it says all the world's websites at your hands. Before it was a lie, now it's true but only for people who put it on it cus we know there are still many sites that are rendered in Flash only. To me, it feels great being given the choice to visit these websites instead of being told you can't.

 

[tokie]

I would never want Flash on a cell phone. On the iPad however, that is a different story. Tons of sites haven't switched over from Flash containers for video to HTML5.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I would never want Flash on a cell phone. On the iPad however, that is a different story. Tons of sites haven't switched over from Flash containers for video to HTML5.

Why would you not want it on a cell phone? I'm always pissed when I go to a site and it doesn't work due to flash.

I think we all want Flash. We just want a version that doesn't drain our batteries into oblivion. Why wouldn't you want Flash if it could be made battery efficient? That just doesn't make sense.

 

[alkemyst]

It's cool to be anti-flash.