Flash a cop because his lights are bright and die

[NoStateofMind]

No where did the cop "admit" his lights were "too bright." Who made the IRRATIONAL conclusion that he had? When did the definition of rational change? The definition of rational agrees with me. Jumping to conclusions and ignoring the possibility that the kid was wrong in order to make stupid assumptions while ignoring reality is not "rational."

You've proven time and time again you'll bend over backwards to lick the boots. What can be gained from engaging you but a headache? No thanks!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You're free to think as you wish. the officer I confronted about his road blocking would disagree with you 😎

Video or it didn't happen.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Video or it didn't happen.

Funny, that's what police say.....


I do not care whether you believe me or not. My self worth doesn't come from Internet (or your) validation.

 

[waggy]

at first when i read about this I thought damn another officer is going ot get away with murder.

After watching the video it's a good shot. the kid refused orders, thought he could dictate what happened. then attacked the cop.

fuck the kid. pitty his parents didn't teach him better. Do what the cops say and then fight in court. actually fighting him on the street is going to get you killed.


while the cop should de-esculate a situation the kid could have just given his license and registration. after asking 5-6 times the cop is going to to escalate it. and rightfully so.

 

[Genx87]

at first when i read about this I thought damn another officer is going ot get away with murder.

After watching the video it's a good shot. the kid refused orders, thought he could dictate what happened. then attacked the cop.

fuck the kid. pitty his parents didn't teach him better. Do what the cops say and then fight in court. actually fighting him on the street is going to get you killed.


while the cop should de-esculate a situation the kid could have just given his license and registration. after asking 5-6 times the cop is going to to escalate it. and rightfully so.

Cop should be fired for harassing people over his brights. He was itching for a fight and finally got one on the 4th try.

 

[bradley]

Without proper disclosure and accountability, I trust no one. For one, the autopsy makes me severely question whether the officer's injuries were self-inflicted. We only have his word and no footage from his *disabled* bodycam. 😉

The below Marcus Jeter incident and outcome puts this case into proper context for me, probably a fairly common occurrence as well. Definitely worth a repost.

Police dash cam video exonerates New Jersey man, leads to indictment of cops
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ates-nj-man-implicates-cops-article-1.1701763

The Investigators Dashcam video clears NJ man; Cops now indicted 7online com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVaU8qm2LhQ

Some more context....

The Hard Truth About Cops Who Lie
www.wnyc.org/story/hard-truth-about-cops-who-lie/

 

[brianmanahan]

I'm reading some of the comments posted, and people are saying that the cop should be shot and killed by the kids father. I wouldn't have any problem giving the father a not guilty verdict if he chooses to do so.

he would be guilty though

 

[flexy]

Guy did not die because he fricking "flashed his lights".

He died because he attacked/jumped the cop. It's "sort-of" a difference, don't ya think?

 

[OCNewbie]

Like I read in a YouTube comment, this kid was likely trying to emulate other police traffic stop videos he'd seen, and tried to record it, with hopes/aspirations of being another YouTube darling showing himself schooling the officer in how wrong the officer was about the laws the officer is supposed to uphold. Apparently the defiance he'd learned to exhibit is a big part in why he was killed. Those videos are encouraging dangerous behavior.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Like I read in a YouTube comment, this kid was likely trying to emulate other police traffic stop videos he'd seen, and tried to record it, with hopes/aspirations of being another YouTube darling showing himself schooling the officer in how wrong the officer was about the laws the officer is supposed to uphold.

Yeah! It had nothing to do with trying to protect himself or assert his Rights.

Apparently the defiance he'd learned to exhibit is a big part in why he was killed. Those videos are encouraging dangerous behavior.

Oh defiance is what they call self defense now? Oh that's what the copsuckers call it, gotcha!

 

[OCNewbie]

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Seriously, what do you get out of posting here? It's pretty clear that you don't seek discussion. You don't seek some sort of middle ground or understanding of where someone else is coming from, someone who doesn't see things exactly the way you see them. Really, what's in it for you when all you do is make snarky comments and place unsavory labels on those you don't agree with?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Seriously, what do you get out of posting here? It's pretty clear that you don't seek discussion. You don't seek some sort of middle ground or understanding of where someone else is coming from, someone who doesn't see things exactly the way you see them. Really, what's in it for you when all you do is make snarky comments and place unsavory labels on those you don't agree with?

If it's discussion you want then I'd suggest you respond to my comments above. Otherwise wtf are you complaining about?

 

[Dude111]

Of course the cop wasn't charged with a crime.

Of course not.....Blitheriong idiot!!

 

[OCNewbie]

If it's discussion you want then I'd suggest you respond to my comments above. Otherwise wtf are you complaining about?

You made no attempt to provide me something in which to reply to. You made a couple snarky/snide comments, then called me a "copsucker" (a first for me). How am I supposed to (and why would I want to) reply to that, or see you as someone seeking a discussion, or intelligent discourse?

Yeah! It had nothing to do with trying to protect himself or assert his Rights.
Oh defiance is what they call self defense now? Oh that's what the copsuckers call it, gotcha!

 

[NoStateofMind]

You made no attempt to provide me something in which to reply to. You made a couple snarky/snide comments, then called me a "copsucker" (a first for me). How am I supposed to (and why would I want to) reply to that, or see you as someone seeking a discussion, or intelligent discourse?

I made two claims in that post as well as calling you a copsucker. If you are unable to determine what those two points were then I'm not sure that any 'intelligent' discourse is possible.

 

[CZroe]

I made two claims in that post as well as calling you a copsucker. If you are unable to determine what those two points were then I'm not sure that any 'intelligent' discourse is possible.

Except that the boy was wrong about his "rights" (you are too) and it was not self-defense.
How's that?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Except that the boy was wrong about his "rights" (you are too) and it was not self-defense.
How's that?

A little better than your co-copsucker. Good job!

 

[CZroe]

A little better than your co-copsucker. Good job!

Seeking discussion?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Seeking discussion?

Not with you. Didn't we already have this 'discussion', in this very thread no less?

 

[CZroe]

Not with you. Didn't we already have this 'discussion', in this very thread no less?

And you just proved our point. Twice.

 

[NoStateofMind]

And you just proved our point. Twice.

🙄

If you think that then have at it.

 

[Darwin333]

at first when i read about this I thought damn another officer is going ot get away with murder.

After watching the video it's a good shot. the kid refused orders, thought he could dictate what happened. then attacked the cop.

fuck the kid. pitty his parents didn't teach him better. Do what the cops say and then fight in court. actually fighting him on the street is going to get you killed.


while the cop should de-esculate a situation the kid could have just given his license and registration. after asking 5-6 times the cop is going to to escalate it. and rightfully so.

So you think the kid got down on the ground, flat on his belly with his arms spread, in order to fight the cop??? And then somehow that puny kid, again flat on his back with his arms spread while the officer is pointing a taser at his back, was somehow able to get the upper hand on the cop sufficiently to make the cop fear for his life?

I'd be fucking embarrassed to admit to needing to deploy even a taser against a puny kid already on the ground with his arms spread armed with a cell phone.

If the cop is truly "innocent" he is way too big of a pussy to be a cop, maybe he could handle delivering mail...

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Damn I wish I saw this response earlier. It is really stupid. *Sigh*

The cop NEVER said that they were too bright and he only provided a reason that the person might THINK that they are too bright.

If multiple people think your lights are too bright then your lights are too fucking bright. Maybe you think you are super smarter than everyone else, but most people have the intellectual ability to tell if lights are too bright or not. The amount of stupid that you must think all mankind possesses would kill them all before puberty, so therefore it does not exist. You need to get over whatever lies you are telling yourself about how stupid the average human is compared to you. News flash: you have a solidly middle level intelligence.

It is laughably desperate reasoning that I already called out but you idiots keep lining up and presenting it over and over and over to confirm your bias.

No, the desperate reasoning is someone who would say that 3 different people all flashing you as a courtesy to warn you that your lights are too bright are all wrong. On the same night. It's fucking stupidity to believe that this can happen and they are all wrong and that there is nothing that you should do to correct the issue except for disrupting their lives by pulling them over under threat of violence to issue them state sanctioned warnings or tickets.

Another unsubstantiated leap. He pulled others over for flashing him and that automatically means that others said his lights were too bright ?! Nonsense.

It's not a leap to think that after 3+ people all thought his lights are to bright, that they are too bright. That is not a leap at all. That is common sense, not nonsense. Only a narcissistic asshole might think otherwise.

All three could have been flashing to warn oncoming drivers of another cop down the road

For fuck sake there is no evidence of this or even insinuation of this. You just literally made up a horseshit reason that something might have happened. The horseshit reason doesn't even make sense. You must really think that everyone who is not you is totally stupid and easily outsmarted by bullshit. The cop even explained that they flashed because his lights were too bright. The cop said this. HE SAID IT.

or they could have been flashing because they THOUGHT his lights were too brights due to them being new/different/noticeable.

If lots of people think your lights are too bright then they are. End of story. If you are blinding people, then you are blinding people. You don't get to blind people and then say "well it's a regulation blinding so you're not actually blinded."

I certainly have.

What the fuck? You've been flashed 3 times in a single night by people and you still think you weren't blinding them? No wonder you are arguing for the cop here.

I've even had people stop in the middle of the road and get out to confront me about it and they shut up quick when I turned my actual brights on.

I'm calling bullshit on this one. Easy call. 2 reasons: 1) How in the fuck would someone be able to stop in time to confront you if you both were passing in opposite directions? 2) If it actually happened (unlikely) and they shut up quick, it is likely because you flashed your badge and threatened to abuse your authority. Because if your low beams are too bright then they are too bright. It doesn't matter if you have even higher beams that are even too higher bright. BOTH sets are too fucking bright and you need to adjust your shit.

Exactly my point. The NTSB reports the phenomenon every time bulb technology changes. Last time they said an awful lot of it was that legal bi-xenon HID projectors were brighter and were the same color as the illegal ones that really did blind people and because the ratio of illegal to legal was closer when they were first introduced people made the association and were reportedly "annoyed" even by the legal ones. We are going through that transition again with LED headlight. It's very possible that his fancy new police car has LED headlights.

This is a lot of noise, but the bottom line is that the most logical explanation was that his lights were blinding people. LED/fancy/color is irrelevant. Blinding is blinding. It was an asshole move to pull all those people over as if they were at fault for his blinding people. End. Of. Story.

It was a valid stop.

If I were an asshole, I would think so too.

At least I didn't delude myself about the facts of the case for no other reason than to support my bias/hate like you and so many others are so willing to do.

You didn't even read the rest of your own post or else you wouldn't have the nerve to say this.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Except that the boy was wrong about his "rights" (you are too) and it was not self-defense.
How's that?

The stop should never have happened in the first place. By the 3rd time you get flashed in a single evening, you should take the car back to the station, have the lights fixed, and get a different vehicle for the night. That is the only response you should have. Pulling someone over under threat of violence is the response of an egotistical narcissistic asshole who should not be granted authority over anybody.

 

[umbrella39]

Nuthuggers gonna hug...