Flash 10.2 and Hardware accleration

thescreensavers

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I have an ATI 3650, using AMD's latest driver 10.12 and Using the new Flash 10.2 Beta

I cannot get GPU acceleration to work. And yes I have "Enable Hardware Acceleration" in my flash settings.


I been testing with. A 4k Res video on youtube and GPU-Z.


Any one have any ideas?
 

taltamir

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AFAIK the whole deal with flash hardware acceleration isn't for flash video decode acceleration (codecs) but for regular flash animations (rendered animations).
open up a website with lots of flash and check your GPU and CPU loads on that site with acceleration on and off.
Also, last I checked it was CUDA only. Although they might have went with openCL since, don't know, doesn't matter, flash can go die in a ditch.
And I actually prefer it not to render on the GPU... GPU gets very loud when used, unlike my CPU.
 
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zebrax2

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A 4k resolution video on youtube?

Edit: Looked around and manage to find the said video. Maybe the video acceleration support doesn't include resolutions up to 4k?
 
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cusideabelincoln

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The 3650 isn't supported since it has UVD1. UVD2 and up is supported, which is the 4000 series and up. I believe the only 3000 chip with flash acceleration is the integrated 3200. This is with Flash 10.1, and so far I'm not seeing anything different with 10.2. Is there a link determining what cards are compatible with 10.2?
 
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taltamir

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A 4k resolution video on youtube?

Edit: Looked around and manage to find the said video. Maybe the video acceleration support doesn't include resolutions up to 4k?

can you link it? I would like to see it.
 

thescreensavers

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The 3650 isn't supported since it has UVD1. UVD2 and up is supported, which is the 4000 series and up. I believe the only 3000 chip with flash acceleration is the integrated 3200. This is with Flash 10.1, and so far I'm not seeing anything different with 10.2. Is there a link determining what cards are compatible with 10.2?


Here is what it says on Adobe's website and I belive ATI also released this list when they first added the GPU acceleration

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AMD/ATI hardware decoding of H.264 video in Flash Player 10.1 is supported on AMD/ATI products with UVD2 with the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite, starting with version 9.11 for the ATI Radeon™ family of products, and driver release 8.68 for the ATI FirePro™ family of products. Supported GPUs include: Radeon HD 4xxx and higher; Mobility Radeon HD 4xxx series and higher; Radeon HD 3xxx and higher; FirePro V3750, FirePro V7750, FirePro V8700, and FirePro V8750 and higher."


But since you said my 3650 has UVD1 then I guess it wont work :(


can you link it? I would like to see it.

http://www.google.com/search?q=yout...&resnum=2&ved=0CDAQqwQwAQ&fp=97c33b82ea065347
 

taltamir

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thanks for the link.
testing with this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0m1XmvBey8&p=5BF9E09ECEC8F88F

I saw no CPU utilization difference between hardware acceleration on and off on chrome and firefox using my GTX260. so its clearly not accelerating video codec decoding with the GPU.

it was 35% +/- 5 CPU usage on firefox and 30% +/-5 on chrome. (the +/- is due to different scenes in a video requiring different performance levels; not error in measurement)
Anyways, easy as pie for the CPU to render.
 
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cusideabelincoln

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Here is what it says on Adobe's website and I belive ATI also released this list when they first added the GPU acceleration

"
AMD/ATI hardware decoding of H.264 video in Flash Player 10.1 is supported on AMD/ATI products with UVD2 with the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite, starting with version 9.11 for the ATI Radeon™ family of products, and driver release 8.68 for the ATI FirePro™ family of products. Supported GPUs include: Radeon HD 4xxx and higher; Mobility Radeon HD 4xxx series and higher; Radeon HD 3xxx and higher; FirePro V3750, FirePro V7750, FirePro V8700, and FirePro V8750 and higher."


But since you said my 3650 has UVD1 then I guess it wont work

Yeah, it also says UVD2. I believe Anandtech's review of the first GPU-accelerated Flash pointed out UVD1 won't work. I'm not sure why they list the HD 3xxx when most of the cards don't support it.
 

thescreensavers

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Yea, oh well next computer ha

I cant even play the 4k vids, The sound is fine the video is a slideshow :p
 

maxtrox

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with bsplayer+ffdshow i can open youtube hd videos in bsplayer.
p4 3G without hardware acc is useless on 1080p unless coreavc codec.
beside adobe flash,vlc does NOT have acceleration.they are destroyed people.

bsplayer+ffdshow+1080p=33% cpu load.@720p=15% cpu load
bsplayer+coreavc+720p=60% cpu load,no hard acc.very good codec for nvidia 6600.

" UVD 2 engine did ATI move to dedicated silicon to handle MPEG2 decode much like the H.264 and VC1 support the earlier Radeon HD cards had."
youtube hd IS h.264.again,they are destroyed people.
 
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Fox5

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Flash 10.2's gpu acceleration uses DX9 and OpenGL. It's called Stage Video, and rather than having the cpu copy back to system ram, it allows the gpu to texture the video on a surface for manipulation. It's separate from the hd decode stuff, and I would think it should work on any dx9 capable card. However, it requires the website's flash player to be upgraded to support it, only works on some videos, and can only accelerate one piece of flash content at a time.
 

dualsmp

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Not sure 4k video is supported for flash acceleration. I remember in the betas it would work, but later when I tried the release version 4k was a slide show even with acceleration enabled. So if you test acceleration only use 1080p or 720p.

Supposedly the 9.11 drivers would accelerate flash with the 3xxx series cards, but then later it was pulled. Try the 9.11 drivers and see if acceleration works.
 

Dark Shroud

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Ok guys let me drop some info here.

System: P4 3ghz HT, 1.3 GB ram, HD 4670 DDR3 1GB, Win7 Ultimate x86.
Browser: IE9 Beta with Preview 7 back end running Flash ActiveX 10.2.151.49

Open the link to 4k Garden video & running it at 1080p. My CPU spiked to 45%-50% until half way through where it dropped to under 20% for the rest of the video. When youtube loaded the next 4k video my CPU shot up to 80% to load the video then dropped under 20% after a few seconds of playback.
 

Auric

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Nevermind the title, that clip is 1080 AVC and only 3Mbps (i.e. FauxHD). Also, MP4 container not FLV.

I suggest downloading it for playback in MPC-HC with a DXVA capable decoder (Microsoft, CyberLink, ArcSoft, ffmpeg, ...). Only after confirmed working try messin' with embedded playback.