Flash 10.1 is due on Android 2.2 'FroYo' in June

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KLin

KLin

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DLeRium said:
Stop writing it as FroYo. Do you guys actually use froyo in daily language? I guess froyo's only really big in CA as it's an Asian thing... kinda like boba? Yeah. Just say froyo. I love Pinkberry btw.
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Sensitive much?

I'm hoping Verizon lets the wifi hotspot app through for FroYo myself.
 
preslove

preslove

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QueBert said:
Flash sucks ass on OSX after what a decade plus? Anyone who thinks they magically got their shit together for the Android version is smoking crack. It will work, in the same sense it works on OSX. Expecting it to mimic the PC version is laughable. I've heard about 2 demos of it, one it crashed on the sites they hand picked to showcase it and went on to basically not show shit. And the 2nd showed it playing Farmville, where they had to do a shit load of scrolling around just to see and do anything. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if by version 14 it was still very buggy, slow and overall crappy. I picked up a Moto Droid last week and I won't be installing it, not even to test it out.
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Why did you buy a droid when all you ever fucking do is bash android and repeat whatever bullshit talking point Jobs puts out?
 
QueBert

QueBert

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preslove said:
Why did you buy a droid when all you ever fucking do is bash android and repeat whatever bullshit talking point Jobs puts out?
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I don't bash Androids, I say I like iPhones better (which I do) and I hate Flash on mobile devices (which I do) The fact I think iPhones are better than Android devices doesn't mean I hate them, I just don't like them as much. A person can like multiple things, I'm able to see the good and bad in both. Obviously a person who bashes Androids wouldn't buy one now would they??
 
theeedude

theeedude

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Noone is forcing you to run Flash. Bottom line is Android will let you run it, but won't require that you do.
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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QueBert said:
I don't bash Androids, I say I like iPhones better (which I do) and I hate Flash on mobile devices (which I do) The fact I think iPhones are better than Android devices doesn't mean I hate them, I just don't like them as much. A person can like multiple things, I'm able to see the good and bad in both. Obviously a person who bashes Androids wouldn't buy one now would they??
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but you never fathom that people could want it on their devices. You say a person can like multiple things but if you don't like it it means others don't like it as well which isn't the truth. Fact is that people DO want flash on their devices but your way of thinking is that since you think it sucks, it must suck to everyone.
 
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sjwaste

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I just don't see the need for Flash on mobile devices. For video, just use HTML5 and a supported container. For games, compile them natively. All Flash does is make it easier for lazy developers/content providers to dump half-baked content on your device.

If they're too lazy to develop a native version of their app for your platform, they're going to be too lazy to test and remediate bugs.
 
Cuda1447

Cuda1447

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Hulu works absolutely perfectly for me. No problems whatsoever. The website takes a little bit to load, but really not bad at all.

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Sorry the video was loading, I got the error too. All other flash works brilliantly though. It looked like it was going to load Hulu then gave me the error.
 
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theeedude

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Cuda1447 said:
Hulu works absolutely perfectly for me. No problems whatsoever. The website takes a little bit to load, but really not bad at all.

*edit*

Sorry the video was loading, I got the error too. All other flash works brilliantly though. It looked like it was going to load Hulu then gave me the error.
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I believe Hulu is blocking to mobile devices due to content licensing terms. I wonder if there is a way to trick it into thinking you are accessing from a PC.
 
Cuda1447

Cuda1447

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senseamp said:
I believe Hulu is blocking to mobile devices due to content licensing terms. I wonder if there is a way to trick it into thinking you are accessing from a PC.
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Actually, yes. Yes there is. Just found it, REALLY simple. Go to your browser. Menu, settings. UA string - Desktop. Voila. Done. Hulu works for more now!!!

Holy shit that was easy.
 
theeedude

theeedude

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Cuda1447 said:
Actually, yes. Yes there is. Just found it, REALLY simple. Go to your browser. Menu, settings. UA string - Desktop. Voila. Done. Hulu works for more now!!!

Holy shit that was easy.
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Good job, now go to Starbucks, find a group of young people with iPhones (there is bound to be one, otherwise try Peet's), proceed to sit next to them and watch a show on Hulu. Preferably a commedy so you can LOL and attract attention to the fact that you are watching a show on Hulu, and iPhone users can't :D
 
Pliablemoose

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Hmmm...

Hulu keeps looping the start up of the video I'm trying to watch...

Pretty much sucks, the icons and controls are miniscule, and now it just stops on a play arrow. When it did work (using a decent WiFi connection) it was like watching a slide show on Hulu, not video.

I'm uninstalling it, if a page has Flash on it, I'm pretty well screwed if I have to interact with it.
 
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AstroManLuca

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Pliablemoose said:
Hmmm...

Hulu keeps looping the start up of the video I'm trying to watch...

Pretty much sucks, the icons and controls are miniscule, and now it just stops on a play arrow. When it did work (using a decent WiFi connection) it was like watching a slide show on Hulu, not video.

I'm uninstalling it, if a page has Flash on it, I'm pretty well screwed if I have to interact with it.
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You are aware that there is a click-to-flash option built in? So it won't load ads, only the flash elements that you choose.

And Hulu apparently isn't supposed to work anyway.
 
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TheWart

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Well, the pocketnow browser test with Froyo and flash shows that while it can handle a single flash element fairly well, it is atrocious when you load a website that has flash ads.
 
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sjwaste

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Flash ads are the biggest reason I don't want Flash on my phone. At all. I'd prefer that the content owners/distributors create mobile sites using some other standard.

Flash is past its prime, and sacrifices performance for cross-platform support. Call it what you want, but I will always prefer a native app over flash, knowing that flash is the preferred tool of lazy web devs who probably haven't done much testing.

I applaud Google and Adobe giving us the choice - but given the choice, I'll disable it.
 
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Barnaby W. Füi

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There is a setting to make Flash only load when you click on it (like flashblock), so ads really aren't a concern.

I just installed Froyo and Flash, and after trying hulu and one random flash game, I am not impressed. Hulu didn't work, and the flash game didn't work because it expects keyboard controls. Also, when you touch inside the flash applet, a mouse cursor flickers into visibility for a split second. Really ghetto. And like always, flash steals your input focus, so if you want to scroll the page you have to deliberately touch something that's not the flash applet.

Overall I'm impressed by this PR gimmick by Google, and even more confident (and glad!) that Flash is very slowly going the way of the dodo.
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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Pliablemoose said:
http://gizmodo.com/5546523/question-of-the-day-is-mobile-flash-worth-it-to-you
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If you can turn Flash off you get the speedy surfing and the ability to visit the thousands and thousands of Flash sites. Being given the choice to visit those sites is what it's about, not supporting the ability to not visit those sites is bad. Being given choice is what I root for. Being given the choice to listen to music all day and drain your battery or watch a video on your iPhone is the same thing. The choice to do it.
 
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