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Dissipate

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That's outrageous, that's unspeakable, that's ridiculous!!! Oh wait, damn, I took the bait. :(
 

conjur

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Bah....nothing to be done about it now...it's over. Sorta like Iraq. We can't pull out, we just have to carry on with another of Bush's mistakes.
 

chess9

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"Is this the future of Democracy in America?"

What democracy? We don't have a democracy because fewer than 50% of eligible voters register and vote!

Yeah, Harris is a disaster for America.

-Robert
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: conjur
Bah....nothing to be done about it now...it's over. Sorta like Iraq. We can't pull out, we just have to carry on with another of Bush's mistakes.

Bull, the legitimate government of the US can't be overthrown because of the second ammendment.
 

Caminetto

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Saw an excellent documentary on the Sundance channel "Unprecedented: The 2000 Presidential Election", that gave a little more depth to the abuses and irregularities in Florida that are only highlighted here. Recommend it for those interested in how to elections can be rigged.
As far as Catherine Harris is concerned, she was photographed working on the Bush Presidential Election in other states while she was Florida's Secretary of State - what a crock.
 

girlgeek

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What gets me: if Al Gore had been able to win his own home state, no one would have given the voting problems in Florida a second thought. Florida would have been irrelevant, and voting issues there would have remained a local story. At least now we're taking a closer look at voting systems across the country.
 

NumbersGuy

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More votes were invalidated in Cook County, IL (roughly 100,000) than all of Florida.

It' unfortunate people didn't check their ballots more carefully, however with the new computers that won't matter, since the vote can/will be adjusted directly at the elections department.

:disgust:


A good point was mentioned by chess9: what democracy? less than 1/2 vote, of which most are droids brainwashed by the media and propaganda machines, consumer mass who don't know what they are doing. Call it "democracy", guided by sharpie overlords.
 

Chris S

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Just like the Dems wanted all of the absentee Armed Forces ballots thrown out...sore losers indeed.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: girlgeek
What gets me: if Al Gore had been able to win his own home state, no one would have given the voting problems in Florida a second thought. Florida would have been irrelevant, and voting issues there would have remained a local story. At least now we're taking a closer look at voting systems across the country.

I have heard this one before. What is the connection between Gore not carrying his home state and Florida not running a fair election?
 

girlgeek

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Tennessee has 11 electoral votes. If they had gone to Gore instead of Bush, Gore would have had an uncontested win. Even with Florida, Bush wouldn't have had enough votes to win. And then the voting problems in Florida would never have made national or worldwide press.

"Hanging Chad" would be a crime. :)
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: girlgeek
Tennessee has 11 electoral votes. If they had gone to Gore instead of Bush, Gore would have had an uncontested win. Even with Florida, Bush wouldn't have had enough votes to win. And then the voting problems in Florida would never have made national or worldwide press.

"Hanging Chad" would be a crime. :)
Gore Jr. miscalculated badly and got beat in Tennessee mainly because of his own incompetence. From the Knoxville News Sentinel:

A tale from Ned Ray McWherter's 2000 experience, told to a reporter last week, will illustrate.

He had made a 10-day trip through the state, mostly in East Tennessee, as a Gore surrogate campaigner and returned, as instructed, to give a report to the campaign's national headquarters in Nashville.

His travels, McWherter says, left him with a sense that things were going badly for Gore in his home state.

He had a plan, involving some personal campaigning by Gore, for turning things around.

"I sat there for about an hour in the headquarters, wanting to make a report to the people running the campaign. They sent somebody out and said they were busy.

"They put me off another hour or two and, well, my old butt got tired, and I got up and left. They were so busy they wouldn't even talk to me and I was going to tell them they were about to get the hell beat out of them in East Tennessee," he said.

"I left word with Johnny Hayes. He said he couldn't get in to see them, either," McWherter said. "They had other places to worry about, I guess."
Ned Ray McWherter, the former Governor and Speaker of the State House, is widely considered as one of the shrewdest politicians the Volunteer State has ever produced.

Gore Jr.'s 2000 election fiasco in TN was primarily due to a negative campaign. The problem wasn't so much about negativity directed towards the other candidate. No, quite the contrary, Jr's downfall centered more around the premise that he sent a negative message about America to the predominately rural areas of the state.