Originally posted by: Fern
I don't think it's as big a deal as many make it out to be.
If I was an Obama/HRC supporter I wouldn't suddenly become a Repub/McCain fan because of this.
We'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, the DNC does about the FL delegates.
Fern
Originally posted by: loki8481
just heard it on CNN... so much for Obama trying to win the state in November.
Originally posted by: Thump553
An idiotic act of brinksmanship. I have absolutely no sympathy with the position taken by the Florida Democratic Party, they are consistently wrong and pigheaded about it.
If politicians have an sense of shame, I hope those clowns in Florida will feel some regret when they deliver the Presidency to the GOP (again).
We'd probably just pooch the actual voting process again anywaysOriginally posted by: Robor
Good. I wanted to vote for Obama but as a (R) I couldn't so I didn't vote. When I heard there might be a redo I decided to finally get off my arse and switch to the party I more identify with. I got a notice that my application to switch from (R) to (D) was delayed until after the election. Damn I hate politics. Anyway, good. I live in FL and I think we should be excluded for ignorant leadership!
Definitely, a wait and see, but I wouldn't be surprised if many here use their vote as a middle finger over the SNAFU.Originally posted by: Fern
I don't think it's as big a deal as many make it out to be.
If I was an Obama/HRC supporter I wouldn't suddenly become a Repub/McCain fan because of this.
We'll just have to wait to see what, if anything, the DNC does about the FL delegates.
Fern
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
We'd probably just pooch the actual voting process again anywaysOriginally posted by: Robor
Good. I wanted to vote for Obama but as a (R) I couldn't so I didn't vote. When I heard there might be a redo I decided to finally get off my arse and switch to the party I more identify with. I got a notice that my application to switch from (R) to (D) was delayed until after the election. Damn I hate politics. Anyway, good. I live in FL and I think we should be excluded for ignorant leadership!
Originally posted by: Corbett
Dont worry guys. I'm sure Michigan will figure out some way to screw the whole thing up and have a re-vote. Not only that but I'm sure Michigan will figure out how to avoid making the DNC pay for it and pass the cost on to the taxpayers in the form of another new tax.
Originally posted by: Corbett
Dont worry guys. I'm sure Michigan will figure out some way to screw the whole thing up and have a re-vote. Not only that but I'm sure Michigan will figure out how to avoid making the DNC pay for it and pass the cost on to the taxpayers in the form of another new tax.
Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: Corbett
Dont worry guys. I'm sure Michigan will figure out some way to screw the whole thing up and have a re-vote. Not only that but I'm sure Michigan will figure out how to avoid making the DNC pay for it and pass the cost on to the taxpayers in the form of another new tax.
From what they were reporting on the news (MSNBC) this morning, the current plan is Michigan will have a re-vote on June 3rd, administered by the state but paid for by "private parties." I don't know the details.
And if the DNC chooses to accept the delegates as-is, the Obama camp can rightfully argue that Florida and Michigan broke party rules, and that they did not campaign in those states in compliance with those rules...and this will set a dangerous precendent for the Democrats if the Florida and Michigan delegates, again counted as-is, manage to swing the nomination back to Hillary.Without the revotes, the Clinton camp can rightfully argue that not everyone was heard in the nomination process especially two large states that can change the delegate count.
Originally posted by: chowderhead
they are now saying that it probably won't happen in Michigan as well because it cannot get the 2/3 needed in the legislature to pass.
WWJ Lansing Bureau Chief Tim Skubick reports state Senate Democrats came out of a closed door meeting Tuesday morning and said there are not enough votes to approve a re-do.
Legislative approval is necessary for a re-vote to happen.
Speaking live on WWJ, Skubick said it would take a "miracle" to have the re-do approved, but he added it's still possible.
Originally posted by: piasabird
The states with no primaries should just refuse to vote in the national election, or just take the Democratic candidate off their ticket. That would fix up the Democrats good.
Originally posted by: piasabird
The states with no primaries should just refuse to vote in the national election, or just take the Democratic candidate off their ticket. That would fix up the Democrats good.
QFT.Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Yet again, the Democrats are managing to screw up a sure thing.
Originally posted by: piasabird
The states with no primaries should just refuse to vote in the national election, or just take the Democratic candidate off their ticket. That would fix up the Democrats good.