Fixing NTFS.sys Throught MSCONFIG

mikecel79

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YOu can't use MSConfig to replace NTFS.SYS. That guy in the other thread doesn't know what he's talking about. Can you get into the OS at all anymore? You could do a repair install to overwrite that file if it is corrupted.
 

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power supplies are one of the main componets that makeup a performance PC,and should be included in a SIG / sys specs
 

brazzmunk

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i have it at 2.8, but the other problem that i gave up on was that i couldn't run my memory that is rated at 233Mhz faster than 208Mhz, prime would fail and memtest would give errors now and than
 

mikecel79

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Check out this link. It may help you out with your problem. It says Windows 2000 but this will also apply to XP. Another option is to run sfc /scannow. If the file is corrupt it will replace it then. Have your XP CD handy though.
 

Blazer

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then that is most likely your prob,in bios do you have the memory clock set to auto,if so can you under clock it.
 

brazzmunk

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thanx mike, it was probably corrupt because i remember i had error messages while booting into xp after i set my hypertransport to 3X (it doesn't work for some reason:( )
 

neuralfx

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Originally posted by: mikecel79
YOu can't use MSConfig to replace NTFS.SYS. That guy in the other thread doesn't know what he's talking about. Can you get into the OS at all anymore? You could do a repair install to overwrite that file if it is corrupted.

Of course you can. I would say something of the cuff but seeing as how the poster has done it I think that speaks for itself! =)
-neural
 

mikecel79

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Originally posted by: neuralfx
Originally posted by: mikecel79
YOu can't use MSConfig to replace NTFS.SYS. That guy in the other thread doesn't know what he's talking about. Can you get into the OS at all anymore? You could do a repair install to overwrite that file if it is corrupted.

Of course you can. I would say something of the cuff but seeing as how the poster has done it I think that speaks for itself! =)
-neural

Then tell me how you use MSConfig to replace the NTFS.SYS file? Nowhere in this thread does he say he used MSCONFIG to replace the NTFS.SYS file? So please enlight us how this is done using a utility that is only meant to give an interface to updating the startup files for XP.
 

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Originally posted by: mikecel79
Originally posted by: neuralfx
Originally posted by: mikecel79
YOu can't use MSConfig to replace NTFS.SYS. That guy in the other thread doesn't know what he's talking about. Can you get into the OS at all anymore? You could do a repair install to overwrite that file if it is corrupted.

Of course you can. I would say something of the cuff but seeing as how the poster has done it I think that speaks for itself! =)
-neural

Then tell me how you use MSConfig to replace the NTFS.SYS file? Nowhere in this thread does he say he used MSCONFIG to replace the NTFS.SYS file? So please enlight us how this is done using a utility that is only meant to give an interface to updating the startup files for XP.

I don't want to seem hostile but are you kidding me? When did you get your MCSE, this morning? This is basic troubleshooting procedure; what used to be done in SFC in 98/Me is now done in MSCONFIG. When you open msconfig you will see a button labeled "Expand File" which serves the same purpose as "Replace one file" or whatever it was in the old SFC. From there in the "restore file" you would put "ntfs.sys" and then in restore from, well d:\i386 , and save it in c:\windows\system32\drivers . I think you get the idea. That is the purpose of that function, you can use this to replace any windows system file including kernel32.dll etc. Of course you have to restart afterwards. Well all right.
-neural
 

brazzmunk

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ok guys, both of you were great help either way so thanx for that and don't get too grumpy over each other
 

mikecel79

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Originally posted by: neuralfx
Originally posted by: mikecel79
Originally posted by: neuralfx
Originally posted by: mikecel79
YOu can't use MSConfig to replace NTFS.SYS. That guy in the other thread doesn't know what he's talking about. Can you get into the OS at all anymore? You could do a repair install to overwrite that file if it is corrupted.

Of course you can. I would say something of the cuff but seeing as how the poster has done it I think that speaks for itself! =)
-neural

Then tell me how you use MSConfig to replace the NTFS.SYS file? Nowhere in this thread does he say he used MSCONFIG to replace the NTFS.SYS file? So please enlight us how this is done using a utility that is only meant to give an interface to updating the startup files for XP.

I don't want to seem hostile but are you kidding me? When did you get your MCSE, this morning? This is basic troubleshooting procedure; what used to be done in SFC in 98/Me is now done in MSCONFIG. When you open msconfig you will see a button labeled "Expand File" which serves the same purpose as "Replace one file" or whatever it was in the old SFC. From there in the "restore file" you would put "ntfs.sys" and then in restore from, well d:\i386 , and save it in c:\windows\system32\drivers . I think you get the idea. That is the purpose of that function, you can use this to replace any windows system file including kernel32.dll etc. Of course you have to restart afterwards. Well all right.
-neural

Don't have my MCSE. Don't feel I need a certificate stating I know enough about Windows to be certified. Besides a certification only means you passed a test. Real world knowledge is much more valuable than passing a test.

Anywho the Expand File function in MSCONFIG does not replace SFC. That function is a graphical version of the expand command that has been built into Windows since the NT days. SFC also checks dependecies of files as well as looking for corrupt files. What do you do when you replace the NTFS.SYS file with the one that came on your XP CD and it's not compatible with the other files because of a SP and/or hotfixes? You do realize you can get yourself into a situation where you are running an unsupported configuration by doing this. SFC and Expand are not the same thing.

 

neuralfx

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Certainly, I realize they are not the same thing. It simply provides a simple way to replace a particular file. Are there other ways? Certainly, you can reboot to a recovery console and rename and so forth but that is just one way. You're talking about the general case when I was discussing this particular instance. If you have installed another a service pack beyond what is already on your CD's installation then you can restore from that i386 directory, of course. However, as far as I know the ntfs.sys version has not changed. Anyway, you seemed to assert that the sole purpose of "msconfig" was to "check and uncheck" start-up programs and for that you were certainly misinformed and you criticism of my assertions was unwarranted at best! Remember, you original position was that it was impossible to use such a process, now you have retreated to saying it is "ill advised." I think the point is moot! =)

Anyway, I don't know if this will solve the issue, I have my doubts. But hopefully it was simply a corrupted file. =)
-neural
 

brazzmunk

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i just got another one
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x10000050 (0xbea14bd0, 0x00000008, 0xbea14bd0, 0x00000002)

there was no file indicated.. i have two ideas.. either it is operating system that got corrupted when i was trying to overclock and it wouldn't boot.. or it's the memory that does not seem to keep up with it's ratings