[fixed] Dragon Age 2 Low Performance on Nvidia Cards [fixed]

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apoppin

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If anyone finds a fix, please advise. Was looking forward to this one.
i am getting DA II also today. The only "fix" i know of is to carefully remove my GTX 580 SLI and replace them with HD 6990+HD 6970 TriFire-X3.:whiste:

Since i have identical HDDs - one for Nvidia and one for AMD Graphics - a complete switch over takes about 5 minutes. If you can't do this, remember DA II is an AMD game set up for 5+1 Eyefinity. Give Nvidia a week or two for a beta driver hotfix; maybe less since it is an AAA title.

^_^
 

Grooveriding

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i am getting DA II also today. The only "fix" i know of is to carefully remove my GTX 580 SLI and replace them with HD 6990+HD 6970 TriFire-X3.:whiste:

Since i have identical HDDs - one for Nvidia and one for AMD Graphics - a complete switch over takes about 5 minutes. If you can't do this, remember DA II is an AMD game set up for 5+1 Eyefinity. Give Nvidia a week or two for a beta driver hotfix; maybe less since it is an AAA title.

^_^

:(

I have a 6870, but doubt it can drive my 30" monitor. Meh. I may just bite the bullet and play in DX9, because nvidia cards can't seem to handle DX11 with the drivers that are out.
 

zebrax2

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As the Bioware employee said (the one i quoted) there is supposed to be new driver on Monday or Tuesday from both camps to address the dx11 performance and stability so i highly doubt it would take a week for nvidia to release a fix
 

nyker96

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Just wait a week for NV and ati driver fixes. Why play this game at low settings when you can play full settings in a week, I mean you waited long enough for the sequal for come out, what's 1 more week?
 

Grooveriding

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Just wait a week for NV and ati driver fixes. Why play this game at low settings when you can play full settings in a week, I mean you waited long enough for the sequal for come out, what's 1 more week?

AMD/ATI works just fine.

It's nvidia that is garbage in this game currently.

I will wait, but shouldn't have to because nv screwed the pooch on their drivers.
 

RavenSEAL

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nVidia having issues?!!?! NEVAHR! :D

I could test it out with my GTS450 :hmm:

p.s. the game runs fine on my 6850 :p
 
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Throckmorton

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I don't understand why drivers would ever have to be "optimized" for a particular game. The whole point of Direct3D is that it's standard.
 

Keysplayr

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NVIDIA is working on boosting performance in the game and they will release an updated driver as soon as possible. So hang tight. All is not lost :D
 
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Seero

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I don't understand why drivers would ever have to be "optimized" for a particular game. The whole point of Direct3D is that it's standard.
While, ideally, everything works. Practically, nothing works. There is actually a law for that, the Murphy's law. "Things that can go wrong, will go wrong." When Nvidia assists in developing a game, it also file reports back to its own team, and therefore fixing things as time goes by. Unless it isn't a bug, or it has already affect other games, changes won't be on the release note. The only different this time, AMD is helping.:thumbsup:
 
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alcoholbob

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HardOCP even noted that HD6990 tanked with anything above 4xAF irrc. Therefore, it seems this game is either very demanding or the drivers are unoptimized for both camps at this point.

Well it tanked on 5760x1200 with the 6990 at 8xAA.

On Nvidia cards right now it can't even handle 1080p.
 

RussianSensation

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Well it tanked on 5760x1200 with the 6990 at 8xAA.

On Nvidia cards right now it can't even handle 1080p.

Yes, you are right but my point was that it tanks on AMD with only 4x AF. For 99.9% of games even 16x AF is basically a 2-3% performance hit. So this tells us that either the game is very texture heavy (this specific area is where GF100/110 series have a huge deficit compared to AMD) or the drivers are at fault (or both).

On a 6990:
"This game also has a vast landscape of textures in play, therefore Anisotropic Filtering does have a lot to do in this game, and does go a long way to improving the image quality. We found that the performance hit occurs at 16X, 8X and 4X AF. At 2X AF there is not a big hit, so the best option for image quality and performance right now is to use 2X AF."

On a single 6970, Kyle wasn't even able to use any AF. Since the high-res pack requires at least 1024mb of VRAM to run in the first place, I am leaving towards the fact that this may be a texture deficiency of current generation + a combo of unoptimized drivers.
 
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alcoholbob

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I guess the real humor of this situation is the DX9 renderer looks about 99% identical but runs 5x faster.
 

RussianSensation

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I guess the real humor of this situation is the DX9 renderer looks about 99% identical but runs 5x faster.

Outside of BattleForge, almost every DX11 game I can think of barely looks better in DX10/11 over DX9 and runs significantly slower. I think DX10/11 were created to sell more videocards :hmm: (*obviously not but the performance hit vs. increased visual quality tradeoff isn't really there!).

I am anxiously awaiting how much performance hit Crysis 2 DX11 patch will bring (i.e., can you say 64 billion tessellation factor?).
 

RussianSensation

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Why is it you only have a Geforce 210? LOL

It's a special '580 Pawned' edition. It has 16 Kepler style super duper wide SPs -- fast enough to beat a 580.

On a more serious note, I sold my GTX470 and am replacing it with a 6950 that I am going to unlock to a 6970.

My reasons were:

(1) Hopefully a quieter card at load
(2) MUCH better performance in distributed computing (double precision) work such as in Milkyway@Home (GTX470 wasn't going past 60-70% in SETI@Home regardless what driver I used and could barely beat my i7 @ 3.9ghz).
(3) Net me some 25% gains in certain games such as Crysis 1/2, F1 2010/2011, etc. I sold the 470 for a very good price so the total upgrade cost was minimal.
(4) I got bored of the 470 and just wanted to play with new hardware (probably not the most logical reason to swap cards).
 
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alcoholbob

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So basically you are going ATI because an OCed 6950 runs Crysis as well as a GTX 580 :D
 
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Is this a hack and slash type game or what? I still haven't played the first one. I hated the witcher, is it like that? I love oblivion. Should I try the first one?
 

Grooveriding

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a new hit PhysX title :)

What are those ? Oh those three games. Wow, three whole games.

I was too busy playing Batman AA on my 5870 CF setup at frames nvidia couldn't come near to producing on 285SLI.

I had to turn off Physx from High in Mafia 2 because it was too much of a resource hog for 480SLI to handle.

I think that's it actually. There have only been 2 good games that use physx.

Metro 2033 was good, but used gpu physx effects in .05% of the entire game.

Now run off and find another thread to try and derail. Unless you'd like to post an nvidia PR slide first ? :D