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Five Ohio State Football Players Suspended

How is there not a thread on this? (Searched for Ohio State and OSU)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5950873

So, no suspension for the bowl game (see bold below)? The NCAA pulled that out of nowhere. I guess it's better than saying 'we can't suspend these guys for the bowl game as it will cost us and our sponsors money lol?' But really, by their own logic, why even suspend the guys at all?

Will Pryor even be at OSU next year if he's suspended for the first half of the season?

On a somewhat related note, I read that OSU has not beaten an SEC team in 8,120 days (22 years). Amazing... (I did not fact check)

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Five Ohio State football players, including quarterback Terrelle Pryor, must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits, the NCAA ruled Thursday.
A sixth football player must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules.
All of the players be eligible for the Jan. 4 Allstate Sugar Bowl, however.
Five players were found to have sold awards, gifts and university apparel, plus receive improper benefits in 2009. In addition to missing five games next season, Pryor, Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, Devier Posey and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity.
Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete.
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said the school will appeal the suspensions.
"While we believe sanctions should be rendered, we do believe they are severe," he said Thursday at a news conference. "We do believe we can give mitigating circumstances for the NCAA to consider."

The NCAA announced the suspensions Thursday, shortly before Smith and head coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos.
Pryor is the team's star, while Herron is the leading rusher and Posey is the second-leading receiver. Adams is a starter at left tackle and Thomas a top sub on the defensive line.
Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.
Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150.
Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50.
Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring.
Thomas must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.
"These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs, said in a statement released by the NCAA.

The players are eligible for the bowl game because the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.
"We were not as explicit with our student-athlete education as we should have been in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years regarding the sale of apparel, awards and gifts issued by the athletics department," Smith said in a statement. "We began to significantly improve our education in November of 2009 to address these issues. After going through this experience, we will further enhance our education for all our student-athletes as we move forward."
"We as coaches feel the buck stops here," Tressel said at the news conference. "We're the ones who need to make things even more crystal clear."
Pryor, Herron and Posey are all eligible for the NFL draft in 2011.
Ohio State has been investigating allegations that several football players traded autographs for tattoos. Rumors first surfaced last Saturday. Athletic department officials, including Smith and Ohio State's compliance director had refrained from addressing the allegations.
On Twitter on Wednesday night, Pryor posted, "I paid for my tattoos. GoBucks"
Pryor's high school coach, Ray Reitz, told ESPN's Joe Schad that said Pryor sold items because "he wanted to help his mother."
"It was about family," Reitz said. "Sometimes when you're young you don't realize the ramifications."
 
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Should have just had his mom sell them herself. There seems to be a precedent for not being held liabe for anything your parent does.
 
The whole thing is ridiculous imho. I think these guys should be able to sell all the personal property they want, just as I felt with the AJ Green jersey situation. With that being said, the NCAA ruling on why they are not suspending them for the bowl is hilarious. Based on their logic they shouldn't be suspended at all!
 
A few things:

Damn those players for selling their gold pants (for beating michigan) do they not remember the 90s?

So players are not allowed to sell their own property now?

Is this really fair? Cam Newton walks away with 200k for "not knowing" he was being shopped around and these guys lose half a season for some tats?

If it's not ok for them to play next season, why is it ok for them to play in the sugar bowl? Oh yeah, that's right ratings/money.

I feel bad for Tress and as an alum I'm pissed at them, show some damn respect. Honestly, I don't want them on the team next year if that's the message they're going to send to the non-marque players. How stupid do you have to be to do something like that before asking a coach if it's ok? I'm sure they thought they'd get away with it.

In my opinion this just once again shows that ncaa has no consistency whatsoever and that it's only concerned with the all mighty dollar. Moreover, how are these college kids supposed to come up with $2000 legally/without violating ncaa rules again...

That being said if they ncaa cares so much about bartering/selling your own property I have to imagine just about every college has some violations going on.
 
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The reasoning behind not suspending them for the bowl game is just ridiculous and shows that it's just all about the $$$$.
 
Pryor will most definitely make the NFL jump rather than sit out half a season. And it becomes very obvious that the NCAA is just like any other company out there, they will break there own rules to keep the $$$ flowing.
 
Hilarious. Suck it, bucks.

They should be suspended for the bowl, though. Stupid. Seems obvious for Pryor to go pro now, even though he's not ready or good enough.
 
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What's even more funny is that based on the timeline all of this occurred prior to the season. So they will not be punished at all in any season in which the occurrances took place even though there is still football to be played in this season? The NCAA has really become quite a joke.

Irony: The NCAA is basically saying it's all about the money by waiting to suspend players who are in trouble because they were just trying to make some money.
 
Hawking rings, gold pants and other memorabilia before you've even left the place and had your third bastard child / drug charge: classless.
 
This sucks. Next year is a complete write off now. Miami and MSU are going to be tough. Pryor will likely leave now, hopefully whoever they have in the wings is worth a damn. Pryor wasn't exactly great but got the job done more often than not.
 
This sucks. Next year is a complete write off now. Miami and MSU are going to be tough. Pryor will likely leave now, hopefully whoever they have in the wings is worth a damn. Pryor wasn't exactly great but got the job done more often than not.

I doubt Pryor will leave. He's not NFL material yet and he's got to know that. He's on the cusp of being a great player, but he's immature (physically and mentally) and inconsistent. Until he fixes those things, he'll get drafted into some team's third spot and miss out on $$$. Even with this suspension, he has a lot to gain by sticking around. Bauserman is their #2, and Pryor wouldn't be at any risk of losing the top spot to him. He's not bad, but he's not Pryor.
 
A few things:

Damn those players for selling their gold pants (for beating michigan) do they not remember the 90s?

So players are not allowed to sell their own property now?

Is this really fair? Cam Newton walks away with 200k for "not knowing" he was being shopped around and these guys lose half a season for some tats?

If it's not ok for them to play next season, why is it ok for them to play in the sugar bowl? Oh yeah, that's right ratings/money.

I feel bad for Tress and as an alum I'm pissed at them, show some damn respect. Honestly, I don't want them on the team next year if that's the message they're going to send to the non-marque players. How stupid do you have to be to do something like that before asking a coach if it's ok? I'm sure they thought they'd get away with it.

In my opinion this just once again shows that ncaa has no consistency whatsoever and that it's only concerned with the all mighty dollar. Moreover, how are these college kids supposed to come up with $2000 legally/without violating ncaa rules again...

That being said if they ncaa cares so much about bartering/selling your own property I have to imagine just about every college has some violations going on.

This isn't new. AJ Green got an immediate four game suspension for selling his personal jersey. The five should be suspended for four games(prior precedent), and one of those should be the Sugar Bowl.
 
wows that gunna hurt next year for them

no offense w/o pryor herron or posey

but it IS osu, so Im sure they still have backup-backups better than say, hoosier or gopher starters
 
Saw a funy post on Facebook: The SEC got the NCAA so mad, they went and slapped the Big Ten around

My Thoughts:

1) This is only a 2 game suspension worthy offense.
2) The 2 game suspension should start now, bowl season or not, sorry.
3) No one should be getting punished AT ALL while Cam Newton gets off scott free.
 
wows that gunna hurt next year for them

no offense w/o pryor herron or posey

but it IS osu, so Im sure they still have backup-backups better than say, hoosier or gopher starters


Still going to kill their season, though.

But why not let them sell their own stuff?

Consider this argument: Pryor says he's considering leaving and seeking his fortunes via the NFL draft. A wealthy booster, knowing OS's season would be a shambles without Pryor, goes to Pryor and says ,"How much will it take to keep you here at Ohio State?"

Pryor says $500K. Booster says great....sell me your 2008 Big 10 championship ring. Done deal.

That's why the kids cannot sell their "stuff" until they exit college. Makes it even easier for booster money to corrupt.....more than it already is.

Just providing the alternative argument to "Why can't they sell their own stuff?"
 
Saw a funy post on Facebook: The SEC got the NCAA so mad, they went and slapped the Big Ten around

My Thoughts:

1) This is only a 2 game suspension worthy offense.
2) The 2 game suspension should start now, bowl season or not, sorry.
3) No one should be getting punished AT ALL while Cam Newton gets off scott free.

1) yeah seriously. but they set a 4 game precedent they are following on this, so kudos that I guess.
2) yes. I agree
3) yes totally this. I'm pretty sensitive to this shit since that lovely human bruce pearl spewed unproven bullshit about deon thomas and the stupid ncaa sanctioned us anyways with shit for evidence(which is great ya know, since hes now a known/proven cheater himself). NCAA sanctions follow so little logic that most would be a joke in a civil court suit

Still going to kill their season, though.

definately, I would guess midpack next year now instead of the top 3 as usual.....

But why not let them sell their own stuff?

Consider this argument: Pryor says he's considering leaving and seeking his fortunes via the NFL draft. A wealthy booster, knowing OS's season would be a shambles without Pryor, goes to Pryor and says ,"How much will it take to keep you here at Ohio State?"

Pryor says $500K. Booster says great....sell me your 2008 Big 10 championship ring. Done deal.

That's why the kids cannot sell their "stuff" until they exit college. Makes it even easier for booster money to corrupt.....more than it already is.

Just providing the alternative argument to "Why can't they sell their own stuff?"
yeah thats pretty spot on. Im saddened he sold the samn ring, would think it would be worth more to him than 1 grand, but then again, I wasnt that bright when I was his age

the whole student athelete thing is getting pretty retarded. the NCAA basically is working on keeping the only legal form of slavery in the US with this shit
 
The whole thing is ridiculous imho. I think these guys should be able to sell all the personal property they want, just as I felt with the AJ Green jersey situation. With that being said, the NCAA ruling on why they are not suspending them for the bowl is hilarious. Based on their logic they shouldn't be suspended at all!

this 10000%
NCAA are a bunch of fucking crooks exploiting all of these athletes all the way to the bank. fuck the hell out of them.


I also heard they are reviewing "potential NFL draft status." wtf? what the hell does this have to do with their professional life? I'm so, so sick of the NCAA. and college bball is my favorite sport. 🙁
 
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