"Five of Nine" equals what time?

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MotionMan

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This is definitely not the dominate way to tell time in the U.S. I am from California and have been through out Northern and Southern California, and no one say time like this. Also been to Florida and no one there says time like this either. This most be some backwards regional thing.

I am from California and have been throughout Northern and Southern California, and I have heard many people say time like this.

Go figure.

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SKORPI0

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Should be using before (until)/after(past) not "of".

5 until 9 --> 8:55
5 past 9 --> 9:05
5 of 9 --> Number 5 of 9 units/items.
 

CZroe

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I am from California and have been throughout Northern and Southern California, and I have heard many people say time like this.

Go figure.

MotionMan
I actually polled 10 random people on the street and at work here in San Diego (SoCal) and not one had ever heard it.

I think people who know it simply don't notice that it isn't being used because they, too, understand to/'til/till/before.
 

CZroe

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Re-reading the first 100 posts, I find it HILARIOUS that the ones who think "of" is the dominant and universally understood way are the ones implying that we normal folk are "sheltered" or "in kindergarten." :D

To those poor souls: I encountered and identified the assumption and pointed it out to you (this is after 30 years of traveling in the USA) while you go on believing that it's commonly understood, ubiquitous, and dominant. Just WHO is sheltered?! Admit it: You were and are wrong to think it's acceptable everywhere and there's no reason to keep using it even where it is understood when there are better words that don't rely on a self-defining entry in the dictionary.

all i know is that seven of nine is delicious http://www.geocities.com/cyberdykes/7of9/seven8.jpg

Wow. Geocities was still around when this thread started.
 
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MotionMan

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Re-reading the first 100 posts, I find it HILARIOUS that the ones who think "of" is the dominant and universally understood way are the ones implying that we normal folk are "sheltered" or "in kindergarten." :D.

Who said it was the dominant way?

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Turin39789

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5 short of 9

Oh, and often instead of saying quarter till nine or quarter of nine, I just say "quarter nine"

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CZroe

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5 short of 9

Oh, and often instead of saying quarter till nine or quarter of nine, I just say "quarter nine"

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If it can be a quarter past or a quarter before, leaving out any kind of descriptor only makes it impossible to know which you intended to describe.
 

CZroe

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Who said it was the dominant way?

MotionMan

Among a few in the first 100 posts, The Overlord himself:

Because "A quarter of an hour until X" actually *means* something. "This of That" in word problems indicates a ratio or division. Just what are we dividing?a
It's an American idiom. In fact, it is the DOMINANT American way of expressing minutes before an hour. Your "logic" makes you look stupid.

I didn't make this up. <--------------- :shocked:

Since you live in this country, you need to get along with the rest of us. <------- :shocked:

You'd have a hell of a lot easier time of it here. <--------------- :shocked:

See where I'm going with this? :laugh:

Time-telling

Fifteen minutes after the hour is called quarter past in British usage and a quarter after or, less commonly, a quarter past in American usage. Fifteen minutes before the hour is usually called quarter to in British usage and a quarter of, a quarter to or a quarter till in American usage; the form a quarter to is associated with parts of the Northern United States, while a quarter till is found chiefly in the Appalachian region. Thirty minutes after the hour is commonly called half past in both BrE and AmE. In informal British speech, the preposition is sometimes omitted, so that 5:30 may be referred to as half five. Half after used to be more common in the US.

Just because you've led a woefully sheltered life doesn't mean you get to impose your limited linguistic parochialism on others. ;)

In stark contrast, a month later he was commending me on my command of the English language:
Excellent thread in all respects, OP. May I compliment you on your command of the English language? I really appreciate that and it will hopefully stand you in good stead when you progress beyond Security Guard.

I remember working the graveyard shift, but as a summer job as a young 'un in college. There was always that time between 4-6 a.m. when your entire body fiercely INSISTS on shutting down. Fighting that was tough.

You seem like a good guy IRL. I truly wish you well! :thumbsup:
I'm pretty sure he was serious.
 
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zebano

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I've heard it twice but it's certainly not used in the midwest where I've spent the majority of my life.


Ask your sister when tree-fiddy is
 

Ninjahedge

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It's a bad line from South Park episode.

But that said, I am amazed at how many people "have never heard anyone say..." on so many different things.

I have heard 5:45, Quarter to, quarter of, quarter 'til, 15 'til/of/to, etc etc etc.

They are all fairly common and just depend on how much exposure you have gotten beyond your own circle.

For so many to be saying it is either unheard of or common as if anyone else thinking otherwise is stupid is just sad.
 

GlacierFreeze

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They are all fairly common and just depend on how much exposure you have gotten beyond your own circle.
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For so many to be saying it is either unheard of or common as if anyone else thinking otherwise is stupid is just sad.

I've never heard it once in my entire state or even the other states I lived in for short times. It's a dumbass way of telling time either way. lol
 
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MotionMan

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Update:

We had 11 adults over for dinner last night. They were male and female and were from Northern California, Southern California, Chicago and Massachusetts as well as one military "brat" (I think one was also from New York).

Remembering this thread (because someone mentioned Seven of Nine from ST:V), I asked them if they had ever heard of and/or understood the use of "of" to tell time (i.e. "5 of 9").

All 11 said that they had heard it before and that they understood "5 of 9" to mean 8:55.

Unscientific, but interesting nonetheless.

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CZroe

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Oh, dear God, not that site again. :rolleyes:

That's the same place where that idiotic lie started about the effectiveness of blowing on Nintendo Entertainment System carts being a placebo reinforced by confirmation bias. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Then we got PBS doing YouTube specials based on that lie but presenting it as truth to teach about confirmation bias. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It's not that hard to remove reseating as a factor and actually do some damned testing!
 

MotionMan

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Oh, dear God, not that site again. :rolleyes:

That's the same place where that idiotic lie started about the effectiveness of blowing on Nintendo Entertainment System carts being a placebo reinforced by confirmation bias. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Then we got PBS doing YouTube specials based on that lie but presenting it as truth to teach about confirmation bias. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It's not that hard to remove reseating as a factor and actually do some damned testing!

I'm not sure I see the connection, but, OK.

MotionMan
 

CZroe

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I'm not sure I see the connection, but, OK.



MotionMan


Your link: Mentalfloss
My link: Mentalfloss
Link between links: Mentalfloss

That place is like the Buzzfeed of stupid made-up BS presented as research.