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Flyback

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Originally posted by: mrrman
woofs down a salami sandwich after reading the thread...I personally dont like stationary bikes..find then unstable...Id rather be on my bowflex or on the tennis court

lol @ bowflex
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: purbeast0
If you are going to buy something, buy a treadmill.

running is much better than biking for cardio.

Not that it could be bad on the knees or anything, right? :D

I think, on the whole, a cross-trainer is the best cardio machine possible. Reasonably low-impact and gets everything moving.

Just put the treadmill on an incline and it's a lot easier on the knees. I learned that very quickly when I started running back in college.

X-Trainer machines i disagree about. They are good and low impact, but I still think running is best. I say that because when I'm done w/the x-trainer after like 20 minutes, i'm not even that tired. But when I run for 20 minutes straight, I'm dead tired at the end.

I Just "feel" more worked out when I run over anything else. The fact that you use your arms with the cross trainer makes it easier because you are dispersing your muscles on a lot more than your legs. Granted, you also work your arms a lot more than you think while running. You also work your abs a lot more while running than you do on the cross trainer.

All I know is my heartate and sweat turns on a lot more when running than doing anything else, and I've tried just about everything for cardio :)

I'll definitely agree that the cross trainer is a lot better than biking however.
 

KarmaPolice

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: purbeast0
If you are going to buy something, buy a treadmill.

running is much better than biking for cardio.

Not that it could be bad on the knees or anything, right? :D

I think, on the whole, a cross-trainer is the best cardio machine possible. Reasonably low-impact and gets everything moving.

Just put the treadmill on an incline and it's a lot easier on the knees. I learned that very quickly when I started running back in college.

X-Trainer machines i disagree about. They are good and low impact, but I still think running is best. I say that because when I'm done w/the x-trainer after like 20 minutes, i'm not even that tired. But when I run for 20 minutes straight, I'm dead tired at the end.

I Just "feel" more worked out when I run over anything else. The fact that you use your arms with the cross trainer makes it easier because you are dispersing your muscles on a lot more than your legs. Granted, you also work your arms a lot more than you think while running. You also work your abs a lot more while running than you do on the cross trainer.

All I know is my heartate and sweat turns on a lot more when running than doing anything else, and I've tried just about everything for cardio :)

I'll definitely agree that the cross trainer is a lot better than biking however.

Whats wrong with biking? Yeah its gonna take longer to get the same work out as if you were running but its more fun and better on your joints. I love biking.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: purbeast0
If you are going to buy something, buy a treadmill.

running is much better than biking for cardio.

Not that it could be bad on the knees or anything, right? :D

I think, on the whole, a cross-trainer is the best cardio machine possible. Reasonably low-impact and gets everything moving.

Just put the treadmill on an incline and it's a lot easier on the knees. I learned that very quickly when I started running back in college.

X-Trainer machines i disagree about. They are good and low impact, but I still think running is best. I say that because when I'm done w/the x-trainer after like 20 minutes, i'm not even that tired. But when I run for 20 minutes straight, I'm dead tired at the end.

I Just "feel" more worked out when I run over anything else. The fact that you use your arms with the cross trainer makes it easier because you are dispersing your muscles on a lot more than your legs. Granted, you also work your arms a lot more than you think while running. You also work your abs a lot more while running than you do on the cross trainer.

All I know is my heartate and sweat turns on a lot more when running than doing anything else, and I've tried just about everything for cardio :)

I'll definitely agree that the cross trainer is a lot better than biking however.

Whats wrong with biking? Yeah its gonna take longer to get the same work out as if you were running but its more fun and better on your joints. I love biking.

I didn't say anything is wrong with it. I just said running is the best form of cardio for you as far as how many calories you will burn off with the highest heartrate.

And I agree ... actual biking is a lot more fun than doing any type of workouts on a stationary machine, and it's also more fun than running in general.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I have a Lifefitness Lifecycle ($500 used gym model, probably $2.5K+ new) and the quality is a lot higher than the $300 upright that it replaced.

The only thing I don't like about it is that it's an older design that's much noisier than the last few model years. I'll probably replace it with a brand-new home model Lifecycle next time I move.

Which is a roundabout way of saying if you can afford it, you should also go try out a $1,500 Lifefitness model to see whether the higher quality is worth the extra price to you.

That's what I use in the gym at work... a recumbent Lifecycle. It's great. I get on there for an hour a day and play my Nintendo DS.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
If you are going to buy something, buy a treadmill.

running is much better than biking for cardio.

It's also high impact though. Eliptical isn't, but I'm not a fan.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
If you are going to buy something, buy a treadmill.

running is much better than biking for cardio.

I have a treadmill that someone gave to me (quite nice actually). But...Shin splints FTL...

I am trying to sell it right now.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Flyback
Oh and I'd advise you to look into Craigslist for used equipment in your area. You could save a tonne of money that way.

Make sure that its a good brand to begin with and has adequate life left on the warranty. Also look for minimal usage.

There is bound to be hordes of people who bought stuff for New Years and have since thrown it aside. Take advantage, man! :laugh:

Great idea. Another member also suggested looking at yard sales and the like. Thank you, I had not thought of that.
 

Compton

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Originally posted by: RallyMaster
One needs to go outside and get plenty of oxygen for your lungs to fully function properlah...

I bought an oxygen generator off ebay so I can exercise indoors.
 

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
I personnaly think you should buy a real bike and get outside to enjoy some fresh air and some real exercise versus sitting on that thing in front of a TV. Just my .02.

I have a real bike and I do use it. However, the heat and humidity in Alabama during the summer are not conducive with my schedule of when I have time to exercise.

Additionally, my neighborhood has annoying traffic at times (along with construction) and no sidewalk or bike trail. I typically ride in parks and the like, but only when I have a way to transport.

My car cannot transport a bike. At all. So, I ride in parks/the woods when I have the chance, and I ride in the street when there is low traffic/construction activity. I have my reasons. Don't stereotype me unfairly just because I'm buying an indoor bike.

Oh and I didn't mean to stereotype you "unfairly", I just meant to stereotype you. ;) Yeah I understand the heat and humidity thing....living in Eastern NC it gets a bit warm in the summers.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: mrrman
woofs down a salami sandwich after reading the thread...I personally dont like stationary bikes..find then unstable...Id rather be on my bowflex or on the tennis court

Bowflex is an expensive joke


 

sixone

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If you have a Play It Again Sports store handy, go take a look. I bought an elliptical there last year, got a much higher quality machine than I could have found at Sears. And when I had problems with it, they sent someone over to the house to take a look, order a part, and repair it.

You don't get that kind of service from Sears.
 

Mill

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Well, I could not find anything on Craigslist or in my local paper. I went ahead and ordered this bike, because I want to get started on a better exercise program very soon.

I am combining this with diet changes. I am using MyFoodDiary.com to track all the foods I eat as well. So far I am doing great. Much more energy, my diet is clean, and my calories are well within what I need to drop some weight. It also tracks my portions of fat, protein, carbs, and vitamins, cholesterol, etc. Right now my diet is hitting all the targeted ranges except sodium.

I am not worried about sodium just yet. I have good blood pressure (110/70 is my average, sometimes lower) and a low resting pulse rate. I will try to cut more sodium out as I go along, but right now I am trying to mitigate it by not adding salt to ANYTHING I eat.

So far today: 1665 calories, 44.5 grams of fat (16 saturated), 232 grambs of carbs, 79 grams of sugar, 88 grams of protein, and 130mg of Cholesterol.

To safely lose 2lbs of weight I can have another 250 calories today. 1250 calories are needed if I want to maintain my weight. With my exercise program, those numbers are a bit higher.

I will probably consume another 300-400 calories today, and that will be it. My calories are evenly distributed. 300-400 calories for 3 main meals, and then snacks of 150-200 calories (3 snacks). No calories from soda. My beverages are Water, Diet Dr. Pepper, Crystal Light, Reduced Sugar Low-Cal Cranberry Juice, and more water.

I am tracking all condiments as well. I have everything listed out (completely) of what I ate today and yesterday. I started my diet last week, but I just started tracking.

My diet is 24% fat, 21% protein, and 55% carbs.
 

IGBT

Lifer
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..it's hard to say. I got mine at costco (schwinn) I use it on the days I don't run. Good workout.
 

mrrman

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: mrrman
woofs down a salami sandwich after reading the thread...I personally dont like stationary bikes..find then unstable...Id rather be on my bowflex or on the tennis court

lol @ bowflex

dont knock it till you try it...
 

mrrman

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Feb 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: mrrman
woofs down a salami sandwich after reading the thread...I personally dont like stationary bikes..find then unstable...Id rather be on my bowflex or on the tennis court

Bowflex is an expensive joke

it works for me...I have gained muscle mass and trimmed down greatly...my friends even have noticed that my body looks toned...one downside...buying bigger shirts now lol
 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Most exercise equipment will provide its intended results, if the user uses it regularly and properly, combined with a proper diet.

I've thought about getting a recumbent bike myself, mainly because biking/running through PHX streets is likely to get me killed. At least once a week, I have a near death experience with a dumbass driver in my car. I love running, but I'm not going to get myself killed doing it. The added benefit of making headway on my collection of documentaries and other amassed media is a fringe benefit.

Incidentally, the bike the OP posted seems a little expensive. It appears to be similar to a bike I saw on eBay with a buyout price of 120 and a 45 dollar shipping cost. Look up the user Daytona Sports on ebay, they've got a 99+% feedback and stock a large quantity of exercise merchandise.
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: Mill
Well, I could not find anything on Craigslist or in my local paper. I went ahead and ordered this bike, because I want to get started on a better exercise program very soon.

I am combining this with diet changes. I am using MyFoodDiary.com to track all the foods I eat as well. So far I am doing great. Much more energy, my diet is clean, and my calories are well within what I need to drop some weight. It also tracks my portions of fat, protein, carbs, and vitamins, cholesterol, etc. Right now my diet is hitting all the targeted ranges except sodium.

I am not worried about sodium just yet. I have good blood pressure (110/70 is my average, sometimes lower) and a low resting pulse rate. I will try to cut more sodium out as I go along, but right now I am trying to mitigate it by not adding salt to ANYTHING I eat.

So far today: 1665 calories, 44.5 grams of fat (16 saturated), 232 grambs of carbs, 79 grams of sugar, 88 grams of protein, and 130mg of Cholesterol.

To safely lose 2lbs of weight I can have another 250 calories today. 1250 calories are needed if I want to maintain my weight. With my exercise program, those numbers are a bit higher.

I will probably consume another 300-400 calories today, and that will be it. My calories are evenly distributed. 300-400 calories for 3 main meals, and then snacks of 150-200 calories (3 snacks). No calories from soda. My beverages are Water, Diet Dr. Pepper, Crystal Light, Reduced Sugar Low-Cal Cranberry Juice, and more water.

I am tracking all condiments as well. I have everything listed out (completely) of what I ate today and yesterday. I started my diet last week, but I just started tracking.

My diet is 24% fat, 21% protein, and 55% carbs.

What are your primary carb sources? Also, you're better off dumping fruit juice and eating the actual fruit. Fruit juices can have fairly high GI/II rankings. Weight loss is more a factor of what you're eating than the quantity (calorie intake).
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Mill
Well, I could not find anything on Craigslist or in my local paper. I went ahead and ordered this bike, because I want to get started on a better exercise program very soon.

I am combining this with diet changes. I am using MyFoodDiary.com to track all the foods I eat as well. So far I am doing great. Much more energy, my diet is clean, and my calories are well within what I need to drop some weight. It also tracks my portions of fat, protein, carbs, and vitamins, cholesterol, etc. Right now my diet is hitting all the targeted ranges except sodium.

I am not worried about sodium just yet. I have good blood pressure (110/70 is my average, sometimes lower) and a low resting pulse rate. I will try to cut more sodium out as I go along, but right now I am trying to mitigate it by not adding salt to ANYTHING I eat.

So far today: 1665 calories, 44.5 grams of fat (16 saturated), 232 grambs of carbs, 79 grams of sugar, 88 grams of protein, and 130mg of Cholesterol.

To safely lose 2lbs of weight I can have another 250 calories today. 1250 calories are needed if I want to maintain my weight. With my exercise program, those numbers are a bit higher.

I will probably consume another 300-400 calories today, and that will be it. My calories are evenly distributed. 300-400 calories for 3 main meals, and then snacks of 150-200 calories (3 snacks). No calories from soda. My beverages are Water, Diet Dr. Pepper, Crystal Light, Reduced Sugar Low-Cal Cranberry Juice, and more water.

I am tracking all condiments as well. I have everything listed out (completely) of what I ate today and yesterday. I started my diet last week, but I just started tracking.

My diet is 24% fat, 21% protein, and 55% carbs.

What are your primary carb sources? Also, you're better off dumping fruit juice and eating the actual fruit. Fruit juices can have fairly high GI/II rankings. Weight loss is more a factor of what you're eating than the quantity (calorie intake).

First of all, it only has 6g of sugar per 8 oz serving as it is sweetened with Splenda. Secondly, I care nothing about trying to lose weight on Atkins, South Beach, or any other type of "diet." The only diet I am interested in is low-calorie balanced diet. No one has ever gained weight by eating less calories than they burn. They will lose weight.

I completely disagree that weightloss has more to do with carbs than calories. Calories are absolutely a function of weightloss.
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Mill
Well, I could not find anything on Craigslist or in my local paper. I went ahead and ordered this bike, because I want to get started on a better exercise program very soon.

I am combining this with diet changes. I am using MyFoodDiary.com to track all the foods I eat as well. So far I am doing great. Much more energy, my diet is clean, and my calories are well within what I need to drop some weight. It also tracks my portions of fat, protein, carbs, and vitamins, cholesterol, etc. Right now my diet is hitting all the targeted ranges except sodium.

I am not worried about sodium just yet. I have good blood pressure (110/70 is my average, sometimes lower) and a low resting pulse rate. I will try to cut more sodium out as I go along, but right now I am trying to mitigate it by not adding salt to ANYTHING I eat.

So far today: 1665 calories, 44.5 grams of fat (16 saturated), 232 grambs of carbs, 79 grams of sugar, 88 grams of protein, and 130mg of Cholesterol.

To safely lose 2lbs of weight I can have another 250 calories today. 1250 calories are needed if I want to maintain my weight. With my exercise program, those numbers are a bit higher.

I will probably consume another 300-400 calories today, and that will be it. My calories are evenly distributed. 300-400 calories for 3 main meals, and then snacks of 150-200 calories (3 snacks). No calories from soda. My beverages are Water, Diet Dr. Pepper, Crystal Light, Reduced Sugar Low-Cal Cranberry Juice, and more water.

I am tracking all condiments as well. I have everything listed out (completely) of what I ate today and yesterday. I started my diet last week, but I just started tracking.

My diet is 24% fat, 21% protein, and 55% carbs.

What are your primary carb sources? Also, you're better off dumping fruit juice and eating the actual fruit. Fruit juices can have fairly high GI/II rankings. Weight loss is more a factor of what you're eating than the quantity (calorie intake).

First of all, it only has 6g of sugar per 8 oz serving as it is sweetened with Splenda. Secondly, I care nothing about trying to lose weight on Atkins, South Beach, or any other type of "diet." The only diet I am interested in is low-calorie balanced diet. No one has ever gained weight by eating less calories than they burn. They will lose weight.

I completely disagree that weightloss has more to do with carbs than calories. Calories are absolutely a function of weightloss.

I think you misread what I wrote. I never mentioned Atkins, South Beach, or any other trendy diet and I never said caloric intake wasn't important. Sure, you will lose weight if you just eat at a caloric deficit, however part of that will be muscle, not just fat, especially if it's a large deficit. As for carbs, you need to eat the amount necessary for your level of physical activity, but you want to be eating low GI/II carbs rather than high GI/II carbs. For instance, if you eat a diet of 2000 calories consisting of white bread, potatoes, deli meats, and processed cereal vs. a 2000 calorie diet consisting of whole wheat bread, oatmeal, and unprocessed chicken breast, there will indeed be a large difference in terms of the amount of fat you burn.
 

Conky

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May 9, 2001
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Not sure what the argument is as I am too lazy to read this entire thread but I think it's a fine idea to buy any physical fitness device that you will actually use.

I had a cheaper stationary bike before I bought my gym-style genuine Lifecycle. Yeah, it was mad expensive but I am still using it ten years later to keep in shape while watching my old Sony bigscreen in the basement.

The key to any exercise program is consistency. You stay at it long enough and you will see results. It's the people who think they can purchase fitness with dust growing on their equipment who wonder why their health never improves. :p
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: mrrman
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: mrrman
woofs down a salami sandwich after reading the thread...I personally dont like stationary bikes..find then unstable...Id rather be on my bowflex or on the tennis court

Bowflex is an expensive joke

it works for me...I have gained muscle mass and trimmed down greatly...my friends even have noticed that my body looks toned...one downside...buying bigger shirts now lol
No more Junior Miss for you?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Mill
Well, I could not find anything on Craigslist or in my local paper. I went ahead and ordered this bike, because I want to get started on a better exercise program very soon.

I am combining this with diet changes. I am using MyFoodDiary.com to track all the foods I eat as well. So far I am doing great. Much more energy, my diet is clean, and my calories are well within what I need to drop some weight. It also tracks my portions of fat, protein, carbs, and vitamins, cholesterol, etc. Right now my diet is hitting all the targeted ranges except sodium.

I am not worried about sodium just yet. I have good blood pressure (110/70 is my average, sometimes lower) and a low resting pulse rate. I will try to cut more sodium out as I go along, but right now I am trying to mitigate it by not adding salt to ANYTHING I eat.

So far today: 1665 calories, 44.5 grams of fat (16 saturated), 232 grambs of carbs, 79 grams of sugar, 88 grams of protein, and 130mg of Cholesterol.

To safely lose 2lbs of weight I can have another 250 calories today. 1250 calories are needed if I want to maintain my weight. With my exercise program, those numbers are a bit higher.

I will probably consume another 300-400 calories today, and that will be it. My calories are evenly distributed. 300-400 calories for 3 main meals, and then snacks of 150-200 calories (3 snacks). No calories from soda. My beverages are Water, Diet Dr. Pepper, Crystal Light, Reduced Sugar Low-Cal Cranberry Juice, and more water.

I am tracking all condiments as well. I have everything listed out (completely) of what I ate today and yesterday. I started my diet last week, but I just started tracking.

My diet is 24% fat, 21% protein, and 55% carbs.

What are your primary carb sources? Also, you're better off dumping fruit juice and eating the actual fruit. Fruit juices can have fairly high GI/II rankings. Weight loss is more a factor of what you're eating than the quantity (calorie intake).

First of all, it only has 6g of sugar per 8 oz serving as it is sweetened with Splenda. Secondly, I care nothing about trying to lose weight on Atkins, South Beach, or any other type of "diet." The only diet I am interested in is low-calorie balanced diet. No one has ever gained weight by eating less calories than they burn. They will lose weight.

I completely disagree that weightloss has more to do with carbs than calories. Calories are absolutely a function of weightloss.

I think you misread what I wrote. I never mentioned Atkins, South Beach, or any other trendy diet and I never said caloric intake wasn't important. Sure, you will lose weight if you just eat at a caloric deficit, however part of that will be muscle, not just fat, especially if it's a large deficit. As for carbs, you need to eat the amount necessary for your level of physical activity, but you want to be eating low GI/II carbs rather than high GI/II carbs. For instance, if you eat a diet of 2000 calories consisting of white bread, potatoes, deli meats, and processed cereal vs. a 2000 calorie diet consisting of whole wheat bread, oatmeal, and unprocessed chicken breast, there will indeed be a large difference in terms of the amount of fat you burn.

Well, my diet isn't consisting of white bread and deli meats. I'm eating wheat bread, whole grains, and other foods high in fiber (fruits and veggies). I don't know how you took 8oz of Cranberry juice and made it into my diet having a high glycemic index and being bad. But I digress...
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
I personnaly think you should buy a real bike and get outside to enjoy some fresh air and some real exercise versus sitting on that thing in front of a TV. Just my .02.

I have a real bike and I do use it. However, the heat and humidity in Alabama during the summer are not conducive with my schedule of when I have time to exercise.

Additionally, my neighborhood has annoying traffic at times (along with construction) and no sidewalk or bike trail. I typically ride in parks and the like, but only when I have a way to transport.

My car cannot transport a bike. At all. So, I ride in parks/the woods when I have the chance, and I ride in the street when there is low traffic/construction activity. I have my reasons. Don't stereotype me unfairly just because I'm buying an indoor bike.


Don't ride your frikken bike on the sidewalk , that is for pedestrians. Bikes belong on the road.