Fish Empathy Project

[Pliablemoose]

http://fishinghurts.com/feat/linda/

PETA?s pro-fish TV ad?narrated by the late Linda McCartney?is hitting the airwaves. In the ad, McCartney points out that it?s obvious that fish feel pain: ?Have you ever seen a fish gasping for breath when you take it out of the water? They?re saying, ?Thanks a lot for killing me. It feels great, you know.? No! It hurts!?

Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives. An issue of Fish and Fisheries cited more than 500 research papers proving that fish are intelligent animals with long-term memories who can use tools and even build structures. University of Edinburgh biologist Culum Brown says, ?Fish are more intelligent than they appear. In many areas, such as memory, their cognitive powers match or exceed those of ?higher? vertebrates, including nonhuman primates.?

This year, New Scientist reported, ?The structure of the fish brain is varied and rather different from ours, yet it functions in a very similar way.? And Dr. Sylvia Earle, perhaps the foremost marine biologist in the world, explained, ?I wouldn?t eat a grouper any more than I?d eat a cocker spaniel. They?re so good-natured, so curious. You know, fish are sensitive, they have personalities, they hurt when they?re wounded.?

So-called ?catch and release? fishing is cruel, too?and it?s also deadly to many fish. Wounds from hooks can make it difficult or impossible for fish to eat and can lead to deadly infections. Just handling or netting fish can damage their protective coating and lead to death. And discarded fishing tackle, such as hooks, monofilament line, and netting injures and kills countless birds and other aquatic animals.

<---speechless...

 

[Infohawk]

I think I speak for most conservatives on this board when I say "non-American pain doesn't 'matter."

To the extent fish feel pain when they die so I can eat them, I am willing to risk the karma. Do I think we should inject them with dyes and mistreat them? No.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I think I speak for most conservatives on this board when I say "non-American pain doesn't 'matter."

To the extent fish feel pain when they die so I can eat them, I am willing to risk the karma. Do I think we should inject them with dyes and mistreat them? No.

What if the fish is born in the US?

I also would like to say while I believe in animal rights, PETA is a joke.

 

[Forsythe]

OSCAR MIKE FOXTROT GOLF !!! I cannot believe i'm hearing this...

 

[illustri]

Fish aren't social animals no matter what finding nemo tells you.
I went to the asian market to order fresh fried fish, told the guy not to hammer it before tossing it in the tasty hot oil.

/like the presentation a curved deepfried catfish makes on my platter

 

[glenn1]

So-called ?catch and release? fishing is cruel, too?and it?s also deadly to many fish. Wounds from hooks can make it difficult or impossible for fish to eat and can lead to deadly infections. Just handling or netting fish can damage their protective coating and lead to death. And discarded fishing tackle, such as hooks, monofilament line, and netting injures and kills countless birds and other aquatic animals.

And all this time I thought redneck fishing (throwing an M80 firecracker into a pond to catch fish) was just good ol' boys being lazy. Now I know it's because they're compassionate and were trying to save the poor fish any pain from the hook, just wanted to make it quick and painless as possible.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I think I speak for most conservatives on this board when I say "non-American pain doesn't 'matter."

I wish I had the power to channel the feelings of large groups of people

Actually, I think I speak for most people on this board when I say "b0mbrman's great"

OP: I'm guessing this ad was meant to target those semi-vegetarians who only eat fish....if such a people exist

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: illustri
Fish aren't social animals no matter what finding nemo tells you.
I went to the asian market to order fresh fried fish, told the guy not to hammer it before tossing it in the tasty hot oil.

/like the presentation a curved deepfried catfish makes on my platter

Hmmmm.... your opinion based on a fish market vs an opinion of a biologist.... I'll go with the latter.

 

[judasmachine]

Some of the replies you'll get here, will also show that humanity isn't ready for more responsible living.

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: illustri
Fish aren't social animals no matter what finding nemo tells you.
I went to the asian market to order fresh fried fish, told the guy not to hammer it before tossing it in the tasty hot oil.

/like the presentation a curved deepfried catfish makes on my platter

Hmmmm.... your opinion based on a fish market vs an opinion of a biologist.... I'll go with the latter.

the term "social animal" in research is reserved for those that society thinks is too cute to experiment with i.e dogs, monkeys, pandas...

fish, mice, drosophilia, aren't social animals
whats wrong with pain anyway

 

[Feldenak]

Good grief they are fish. It sucks to be near the bottom of the food chain.

 

[conjur]

"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Republican voter.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

:laugh::laugh:

This is making me hungy for some fish. Maybe some fried catfish, or even some Tilapia sounds good.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Democrat voter.

Wow....it works both ways.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Democrat voter.

Wow....it works both ways.

But Kibbo got their first biter. Anyone gonna' cook up some nice pliablemoose?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

:laugh::laugh:

This is making me hungy for some fish. Maybe some fried catfish, or even some Tilapia sounds good.

mmm...Tilapia with some Teriyaki Pineapple marinade....mmmmm

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Democrat voter.

Wow....it works both ways.

But Kibbo got their first biter. Anyone gonna' cook up some nice pliablemoose?

LOL....before you go labelling me a Republican you might want to do some fact-checking on it.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose


<---speechless...

:shocked: :shocked:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Democrat voter.

Wow....it works both ways.

But Kibbo got their first biter. Anyone gonna' cook up some nice pliablemoose?

Wouldn't that be like eating jerky or maybe calamari? Too rubbery for my tastes.

 

[Pliablemoose]

<---stringy &amp; chewey

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Kibbo

Originally posted by: conjur
"Several recent studies confirm that fish are intelligent individuals who lead complex lives"


Not intelligent enough to avoid hooks with worms attached.

Kinda like the average Democrat voter.

Wow....it works both ways.

That's what makes it so funny!!!! Each side can fantasize about frying up the other with some butter, garlic and maybe a little lemon.

Edit: And come on, it was begging for something.