First Use of the RAVE Act

[NuclearFusi0n]

http://www.drcnet.org/wol/290.shtml#dearave

Absolutely disgusting.

 

[imported_Tomato]

Interesting. First few articles reflected the info I got in the latest Mobilized 4 Movement newsletter:

* Hip Hop Rally Draws 50,000

In an effort to pass the word, Mobilized 4 Movement would like to recognize
the Hip Hop Summit Action Network's June 4th rally at New York City Hall.
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ANTI-DRUG LAW RALLY DRAWS MORE THAN 50 THOUSAND

Despite the rainy conditions, more than 50 thousand people showed up
at yesterday's Anti-Drug Law Rally in front of New York's City
Hall...Included were an array of Hip Hop artists including Fat Joe, Sean
P-Diddy Combs, Mariah Carey, Joe Budden, Memphis Bleek and Reverend
Run to name a few.  It was a rally called 'Countdown to Fairness' and
was designed to demand a repeal to New York's draconian Rockerfeller
Drug Laws.  It came a day after Hip Hop Mogul Russell Simmons along
with other activist sat down and had a two hour meeting with Governor
Pataki to convince him to see do the right thing and get rid of the
laws..  So far nothing has happened.

For those who don't know these drug laws which were passed 30 years
ago in 1973, are such that you can get a 15 year sentenced for a first
time drug offense.  It was among the first mandatory minimum drug law
ever passed and became the prototype for all the laws around the
country that passed after it.One key example is California's 3 strikes
laws.  The main concern is that the law has been selectively applied
resulting in it being a tool to lock up mostly Black and Brown folks.
According to Ben Muhammed of the Hip Hop Summit Action network which
helped organized the rally along with a large consortium of grassroots
and social justice organizations, a whooping 94% of the people
incarcerated under this law are either Black or Latino.

The rally had heavily promoted on local radio stations thanks to
Russell Simmons which drew the large turnout, unfortunately
you would not have known that ifyou peeped the 11 o'clock
newscasts that were shown in NYC..  Norwould you know that
if you peeped much of the Nat'l news..  Of course
we should expect that, when does the mainstream ever really give us
much love?  However, its interesting to note how it was covered.

None of the 11 o'clock local news casts in NY showed anyone speaking,
despite the star-studded lineup which also included actors Susan
Saradon and Tim Robbins and all sorts of elected officials in addition
to all the Hip Hop acts.  I personally made phone calls to Channel 4
which didn't show anything during the 11pm newscast and CBS news which
only showed a 10 second clip.  I called both TV stations to find out
why they didn't show more.  Both said they had 'more important news
stories'....  mmmm Among the 'important news stories that both
stations covered extensively was a cancelled rock concert, Sammy
Sosa's bat, and the creators of the Taco Bell dog getting paid 30
million bucks for copyright infringement.

The guys from Channel 4 directed me to their website so I could peep
the feed they showed at 6pm..  It featured a reporter named John Noel
who said only a 'hundreds' of people showed up, when in fact more than
50 thousand came through.  There were no news stories on the CBS news
website..  There was no coverage of this rally on a national level..
In fact one is able to read stories that were carried nationally that
talked about Hot 97's Summer Jam concert where Nas and Nelly got booed
and how 50 Cent dissed Ja Rule and Lil Kim while wearing a bullet
proof vest.  No where was there coverage on 50 thousand people
attending an anti-drug rally which consisted of Hip Hoppers and mostly
people of color...  The Sin of Omission is something we definitely
need to keep in mind...

For those who wanna know some of the details of yesterdays anti-drug
rally.. here's what the homies over at allhiphop.com ran down....
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http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=1967

Jay-Z, P.Diddy, Others Join Anti-Drug Law Rally In NYC
By Nolan Strong

Jay-Z, P.Diddy, Fat Joe, Memphis Bleek, Joe Budden and others joined
Russell Simmons' Hip-Hop Summit Action Network today to protest the
Rockefeller drug laws.

Over 60,000 people crammed Broadway at City Hall closing down traffic
to listen to rappers speak their piece about the laws.

P.Diddy by far was one of the more articulate of the speakers that
took the stage.

"This has been going on for 30 years now.  This is a situation that
has taken a lot of peoples lives, mostly the lives of minorities,"
Diddy said.

"90 percent of the people incarcerated due to this law are blacks and
Latinos, young people that made mistakes and didn't get the right type
of counseling or drug counseling.  It's taken a lot of you monies away
we have to reform this law there's hundreds of millions of dollars
that could be used to educate yall."

The laws were passed during Governor Nelson Rockefeller tenure in
office in 1973 and 1974.

"I got gotta lot of soldiers locked up behind this law," Memphis Bleek
said.

Under the sentencing guidelines, first time offenders face 15 years to
life for the selling or possession of small amounts of drugs.

"We out here today to show our support.  You can't tell me if you get
caught with a .22, it's the same as getting caught with an AK (47),
they are both guns" Jay-Z said.  "We gotta show our power."

Others who attended were former Mayor Andrew Cuomo, former Mayor David
Dinkins, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

bump for move

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Mods plz move to politics and news?

lock

 

[TallBill]

lol, as soon as i saw the words "drugs" i lost total interest.

 

[Encryptic]

The phrase "It's a free country" just became one step closer to becoming extinct in America.... :disgust:

 

[TallBill]

LoL, dont break the laws and you'll be free.

 

[ElFenix]

drugs are bad mmmkay?

 

[Dudd]

One joint= a 250,000 dollar fine for the venue? That's f'ed up.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: Dudd
One joint= a 250,000 dollar fine for the venue? That's f'ed up.

no doubt

 

[halik]

i bet i stopped reading before you did... drugs are illegal, right?

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: TallBill
LoL, dont break the laws and you'll be free.

If I read that correctly, it's not about people taking drugs, it's about people stating their opinion that pot should be legalized. I guess in this day, it can be illegal to express one's opinion if said opinion conflicts with the Greater Good Plan that the government has in mind. :frown:

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: TallBill
LoL, dont break the laws and you'll be free.

At the rate they are passing laws I pretty much assume we are all breaking the law one way or another as we live our lives these days.

 

[dahunan]

Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)


OR


Marijuana (crazed munchie attacks)

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)


OR


Marijuana (crazed munchie attacks)

I was almost KILLED in one of those munchie attacks!

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)


OR


Marijuana (crazed munchie attacks)

I was almost KILLED in one of those munchie attacks!

When you stick your head in the bag of Doritos, be sure to pull it out before you pass out. If I were Evadman, that would be my tip of the day.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: TallBill
lol, as soon as i saw the words "drugs" i lost total interest.

...then leave the thread, moron.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)

Then let's ban alcohol!

Oh wait, that's been tried already, back in the early 1900's. IIRC, it didn't work too well, and had to be repealed. Oops.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)


OR


Marijuana (crazed munchie attacks)

I was almost KILLED in one of those munchie attacks!

When you stick your head in the bag of Doritos, be sure to pull it out before you pass out. If I were Evadman, that would be my tip of the day.

Nah, I was minding my own business...visiting my local 7-11 late one night. I got out of my car and started for the door. No sooner had I moved towards the door, I was run down by 4 or 5, maybe 50, crazed potheads looking for nachos and ice cream. It was dark, so I couldn't identify them, but all I saw were several sets of bloodshot eyes, and they were moving very slowly. I barely escaped with my life! :Q:Q

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: jliechty

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)

Then let's ban alcohol!

Oh wait, that's been tried already, back in the early 1900's. IIRC, it didn't work too well, and had to be repealed. Oops.

DID that ANSWER thw Question?

 

[Tab]

lol I was prolly one of them Anyway, thats pretty said. What does have to do with taking your freedom of speech away? You do drugs, your breaking the law. If I get cought, so what. I'll most likey have to pay a $25 fine, 6 hours of community service and maybe rehab.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: jliechty

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)

Then let's ban alcohol!
Oh wait, that's been tried already, back in the early 1900's. IIRC, it didn't work too well, and had to be repealed. Oops.

DID that ANSWER thw Question?

No, it didn't. AFAIK, the answer is obviously "alcohol," though I do not have any "experience" in either of those two "fields" of "research."

I was just providing the typical ultra-conservative response (first line), and I don't know exactly what I was thinking with the second line (I might have been half asleep). It was probably supposed to be funny.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Tabb
lol I was prolly one of them Anyway, thats pretty said. What does have to do with taking your freedom of speech away? You do drugs, your breaking the law. If I get cought, so what. I'll most likey have to pay a $25 fine, 6 hours of community service and maybe rehab.

Not quite sure where you live, but up here in NH, I had a friend who was caught with one joint. He had to pay a $1200 fine and serve 30 days in a correctional facility.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: Tabb
lol I was prolly one of them Anyway, thats pretty said. What does have to do with taking your freedom of speech away? You do drugs, your breaking the law. If I get cought, so what. I'll most likey have to pay a $25 fine, 6 hours of community service and maybe rehab.

Not quite sure where you live, but up here in NH, I had a friend who was caught with one joint. He had to pay a $1200 fine and serve 30 days in a correctional facility.

Well... who turned out the lights... or did you all let them stay on for 30 days?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: jliechty

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: jliechty

Originally posted by: dahunan
Which DRUG hurts more people EVERY YEAR

ALCOHOL (broken homes, spousal abuse, drunk driving deaths violence due to inhibitions being removed.. shall we go on)

Then let's ban alcohol!
Oh wait, that's been tried already, back in the early 1900's. IIRC, it didn't work too well, and had to be repealed. Oops.

DID that ANSWER thw Question?

No, it didn't. AFAIK, the answer is obviously "alcohol," though I do not have any "experience" in either of those two "fields" of "research."

I was just providing the typical ultra-conservative response (first line), and I don't know exactly what I was thinking with the second line (I might have been half asleep). It was probably supposed to be funny.

True... I don't like Alcoholics very much ... they think they are better than ALL other Drug users.. just because their DRUG of choice is legal.

The main characteristic I associate with Alcoholics is lack of care for others and irresponsibility

Marijuana creates extreme procrastination.. so say you were high and wanted to go beat someone up... you would smoke more before you ever decided to do it...and then probably never do it after that.

Alcoholics will jump in their car and kill several people every night in America ... while knowing they are breaking the law.