FIRST TO POST AVAILABILITY OF MSI's K7T TURBO WINS... Edit: One long wait!

[bupkus]

This is an email I received a couple weeks back.


<< Dear Mr. Bupkas,

Thanks for contacting MSI.
The K7T Turbo motherboard that we are planning to release is Jan of 2001.
I don't know the exact date yet at this moment. However, once we have it
then we will ship them to our major distributors such as ASI, Avus, Bell
Micro, Imgram, Avnet and others.

Mina Hsu
MSI Computer corp. >>


At this point, especially with crucial.com's price reduction today on 100MHz DDR SDRAM to $77.39/128MB, I wonder if KT133A isn't too little too late. :frown:

 

[broadwayblue]

yeah, I wonder how much longer before we start seeing ddr boards?

 

[lagvoid]

i want one too!! cant wait for it

 

[JimmyZ]

I have checked pricewatch and I-buyer.net, still no listings

Jimmy

 

[JimmyZ]

Edit: Damn cable modems are too fast some times....couldn't avoid the double post

J

 

[HighRisk]

Will the new kt133a mb's require the tbird/duron designed for the ddr boards or will the tbird/duron's that are out now suffice? I think I read this somewhere but forgot the answer. Should probably cut back on the bud light.

 

[stuartb]

They're delayed...I think. I read over at some site that AMD forgot to include a spec and the KT133A boards wont be able to do 1.5GHz+...no prob now but in future wih Palamino...correct me if I'm wrong...

 

[IntelConvert]

That was Tom who reported the spec problem. But the way I see it, just because they can't handle 1.5GHz is a poor excuse for not releasing them now (for current T-birds).

 

[AMD4ME2]

I want one of these boards too! but I don't want something that won't scale up to the higher speeds, so if it takes them a couple weeks longer thats fine... I'll start getting antsy around Feb 2nd though.. when I come out of my den I better at least see a shadow of a Abit KT7A!!

 

[Moonbender]

&quot;But the way I see it, just because they can't handle 1.5GHz is a poor excuse for not releasing them now (for current T-birds).&quot;

I somehow doubt you'd say the same if you had bought such a motherboard and would have to buy a new one because your shiny new 1.5 Ghz CPU doesn't work on it in, say, half a year.

 

[Jamey]

What about all the people here who would run there processors at 1.5 ghz in the NEAR future. Unless I missed something, Tbirds are being run close to that already O/Ced. Wouldn't they be affected by the &quot;bug&quot; (if it exists) when a Tbird is O/C to 1.5 ghz. If so, I can just see all the people ragging a MB manufacturer in a few weeks like they are ragging now. I agree with earlier posts. I think they should wait the extra time to get the best product out in a &quot;reasonable&quot; time frame. A few more days or even a month extra isn't anything that's going to hurt the market for them. However, you let them release a bunch of boards with a major problem like not scaling up to 1.5 ghz, and consumer confidence will tank. AMD can't afford that right now when they are trying to convince consumers their product offers the best value. Besides, what else will we buy? AMD has the best bang for the buck out there in every class, duron to T-bird. That isn't changing anytime soon. Getting out a chipset that is stable, compatible, and as mature as possible is the most important thing for AMD right now. This is one of Intel's greatest advantages. Releasing prematurely isn't a wise move.

 

[AMD4ME2]

Well Said Jamey!

AMD has stated that it did not want to make chipsets so it is crucial for them to make sure that those who do make chipsets for their CPU's make them correctly and with the highest possible quality. This is an error that was caught at the last minute, and which was probably due to poor communication between AMD and VIA. Communication needs to be of the highest priority between these two companies right now...In fact I'm not apposed to the notion of AMD and VIA merging in some respects, althought I doubt that would happen.

 

[fir3wir3]

Dynasty Express,Tufshop,And PCperformance ???

Man, you're signing your death warrant if your order from either of those sorry excuses for a company

especially tufshop....them and bzboys (owned by same person) are the worst.

 

[lagvoid]

this sucks...
i better not wait all this time and find out the board sucks or has some major problems

 

[snow patrol]

Boo

 

[bupkus]

I wonder how many boards will be released based upon the KT133A chipset, or should I say north bridge. Even if MSI were to screw-up, I'm sure someone will get it right.
I may want the msi board, but when they finally arrive, I'm wondering who will get credit for the best of breed. I wouldn't mind if ASUS came out with a real winner, too. Hey, the more great boards, the better our options, the better the pricing.

 

[AMD4ME2]

Below is new information and good news for Abit fans about the recent news at Tomshardware about the delay for these boards.
Enjoy!

__From HardOCP_____________________________________________

&quot;In fact, the Apollo KT133A is simply a minimally changed version of VIA's well-known Apollo KT133 chipset that is now certified to run the processor bus at 133 MHz reliably. I will have to disappoint those of you, who might expect that KT133A-motherboards would become available very soon, because it seems as if a missing design spec from AMD will force most motherboard makers to redesign their KT133A motherboards. My information says that none of those boards was designed to support a maximal processor current of 46 A for Athlon processors at beyond 1500 MHz, because AMD supplied this spec too late.&quot;

Now while it is obvious to me that Tom is more versed on this than we are I would like to point out a glaringly obvious exception to this statement that should have been pointed out to you by myself and for some reason I just brain-farted. Sorry. The ABIT KT7 has been prepared for this since day one and we do cover this power issue on page one of our review when we discuss their 3 Phase Power Solution. I did verify with ABIT a few days ago that their KT133A solution would carry the same power supply devices and they assured me that it would. So it seems as if this will not be a problem for us ABIT owners....

 

[bupkus]

Sorry folks, but the reason for this bump is to note the date this thread first appeared. Back in December 15th I was waiting for the MSI K7T TURBO. Here it is January 23rd and I'm still waiting. Now, I am considered to be a very patient person, but even I have limits. It's time to buy.

Sorry MSI, but you missed the boat. I have a feeling that MSI has lost big bucks in their screw-up and deservedly so. Now my only decision is whether to go with ASUS or ABIT.

 

[stuartb]

I agree. MSI had it going for them, with the success of the Pro2 series and how they were highly regarded. I too was anticipating a new MSI KT133A board...but I've waited long enough. They dug they're own grave and its gonna be hard to get out of it(of course in the KT133A market only I mean!).

 

[lagvoid]

im very angry. been waiting soo long. i have a empty case sitting right here along with some other things like my 40gig hd. im about to go with asus or abit too. anyone know of a site that compares the two? sorry for kinda going off the subject

 

[bupkus]

lagvoid,

Don't appologize, that is exactly my point in resurrecting this thread. I too have a case, an Antec SX1030B, sitting on the floor and an air bag with 2 sticks of 128MB Mushkin Rev 1.5. I was convinced that MSI was making a noteable effort to produce a quality board worth waiting for. Now with so many postings on this forum declaring problems with MSI's K7T Pro2-A, I'm no longer convinced. I do wonder if MSI is being the conservative by waiting until they're assured they product is ready. I only wish that they'd post something to that effect on their web site. It's their silence, I guess, that's pissing me off. Post an appology, an explanation, and an ETA.

Having said that, I wish I could read a thorough test &amp; review that would make me comfortable in deciding on either the ASUS or ABIT boards.

You know, it probably doesn't even matter. I think I'll be pleased with either board.

 

[Forever]

MSI K7T TURBO review

 

[stuartb]

Hurrah, they're finally gettin there.

 

[IronHammer]

I joined this thread a bit late, but I'm waiting for the MSI Turbo for a long time. I surely need a good upgrade for my Pentium133, so I thought MSI would make the perfect board for my new rig...
And I'm waiting... and waiting...
(btw, I'm waiting for something worth buying since the release of CuMine Celerons, but they were overpriced so I dumped the idea)

I'll get a new rig in about 2 weeks (that's when my univ examinations are over) so I don't mind so much that it's not released, but their silence is far too annoying! We've only seen ONE review (posted a few posts before) and we're waiting for Anand's review too!
Damn me.. I should have bought a Duron 650 and an A7V back in September...

Anyway, I'd like to know if anyone finds a review, cause I'll hang on until I see some reliable ones (Anand's or Tom's)

That's my story.. I hope wasn't too boring...

Edit: I also find the case of the Gigabyte 7ZXR interesting.. It features everything one needs and it seems stable and fast too.. I'm thinking about it, and the fact that everything is set using dips doesn't bother me, since the case will be open anyway!
If anyone fings any news about it, plz post it, ok?
btw, the 7ZXR has 2 revisions.. 1.x is KT133 and 2.x is KT133A, and that *will* cause confusion

 

[bluesky]

While ago there were posts about reviews for Asus a7v133, but I can't find them any more. Well, my patience is running out too. Trying to find good price for a7v133 now.
A review will be nice to make my decision sure.