first time computer builder problem...help!!*edit(fixed, now same problem again)?

littletemple

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i recently bought an ecs k7s5a mobo with athlon zp 1600+. Everything is hooked up and when i started it up, nothing happened. THere is no beep at all. It doesn't go into bios or anything, there's just a blank screen. How do i narrow down what is the culprit of the problem?
 

SirEnity

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I don't mean to be condisending or anything, but your monitor is hooked up yes?

If it is then start again. Put one thing in at a time. I would first start with having nothing hooked up in the machine but the video card and the keyboard and see how it goes. Just make SURE that you have all of your power connectors connected to the mobo first. Then once you get that, put in one component at a time once the OS is loaded. If you still get nothing make sure that you have reseated that video card a hundred times, then you can suspect the mobo if you know that the power is connected properly. Some manufacturers cards and slots can be a bit picky. I went through it once when I had a P2B-F and and ATI Rage 128 Magnum card... took me forever to get it fit right. Then I had to hot glue it to make it stay in the right place.
 

littletemple

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i can't get into the os. Ok, this is the first startup period, and nothing happens. It doesn't even go into a boot sequence. No beep at all. There is nothing on the screen. Everything seems to have power, the cpu fan and case fan, hd. The monitor stays amber color when it starts up. Also, there are no lights on the keyboard at all except for the very initial push of the power button. I can't get any lights on keyboard so i think that's not going. It just starts up and hangs, no beep.
 

SirEnity

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Look at all the message that I left. I would take it all out and start at the video card. I'm pretty sure that if the light on the monitor is staying amber (and you know the monitor that you are trying to use works), then it's not initializing the video during the POST routine. start with that.
 

SirEnity

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Memory you have to have since it's a part of the mobo and populating it. The hard drive you don't have to have connected in order for the mobo to initialize the video. No floppy, no HDD, nothing but the things that are IN the mobo. Then put in your video card and keep reseating it until you get the video to initialize. Then you can start adding the other components. That will give you the right one that is causing a problem. Then you'll be able to find out if it's the way that you are connecting it, or the component itself. Make sure that if you get to the HDD hookup stage, that you note your pin 1 alignment. If you connect it backwards, some mobo's won't boot. Make sure that there are no other cards in your system besides the video card when you are trying to isolate this problem.

 

littletemple

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ive tried it with nothing plugged in...except the hd and floppy. no video..with and without ram
no cdrom.... It looks like its trying to access the hd...or the cdrom when it was plugged in.
It does not try to access the floppy.
I read in a different thread that the mobo should beep or something...is that true?
 

SirEnity

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It will only beep if it can get to the POST (Power On Self Test). If a card is not seated in the computer properly and it's grounding it out. Then none of the circuitry in the machine is going to work at all and thus, nothing to power the speaker. That's most likely why you don't hear any beeps. That's the problem with some main boards and connecting the HDD backwards. Grounds it out and the machine will not boot at all. That's why I day only the video card in it. Then if it's just that the card is not seated properly, and it's not grounding something out, then you should get some beep codes that you can look up. Three beeps is that it can't init your video card and needs attention. Unless you can get it into the POST routine then you aren't going to get ANY beeps at all.

 

littletemple

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I will give it a try with only the video card, one stick of ram, keyboard, no hd, no floppy, no cdrom.
and see how that goes.

Can you keep pushing in the card when it's turn on.. I mean, can u try to push it in some more when its on. I too have a ati rage 128 16mb card. maybe the problem.
 

SirEnity

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You can't make ANY adjustments when it's on. The last thing that you want is an arc in your machine and having the whole damn thing fry when trying to FIX something. ALWAYS make sure that you have your machine turned off and the hard switch at the back off before you make ANY adjustments to hardware in your machine.

 

littletemple

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tried it and nothing, same ol problem. Do you think its a motherboard problem?
i let sit for about 1 min, should i leave on for more?
 

CSFM

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Try placing the Vid. card in without screwing it intoor on to the back plain. See if it sits a little straighter.
Did you put screws under the Motherboard so it is not sitting directly on the metal plate in the case?
I have seen this happen before and it can really fry things up... if your lucky it wont.
 

littletemple

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yup, screws are under the mobo. Does this mobo just have some agp slot problems are is it just mine?
 

CSFM

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Do you have another PC to install that Vid. card into to see if it is working? If so try it out. Then you might be able to blame the mobo. But I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet. Is the power switch from the front of the case connected to the power or the reset switch... (I know this sounds a bit silly, but I have seen sillier things)
 

littletemple

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I get power, the system just hangs. I have tried different video cards but it still does not work. I just read an A+ book that it says that there should be a beep even without a monitor or video card present. The post should still run from what I just read.... What other things to test to see if it is truly indeed a dead motherboard?
 

CSFM

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Do you have a PCI video card? Try that in your mobo... if it works then I would say you have mobo that is DOA.:(
 

CSFM

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I am assuming that your BIOS is set to use the AGP slot for video...
 

littletemple

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i can't get to bios, that the problem. Since putting it together, i have yet seen anything on my monitor. I bought mobo/cpu combo, form mwave.com, they installed the cpu, hsf and did a burn in test. THey setted all the jumpers and such. I have absolutely no idea what bios it is right now cuz i can't get to it.
 

CSFM

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You will have to rty a PCI video card out to find out for yourself.... bummer. :(
 

tsnyder

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First things first... all the necessary things (video card, memory, keyboard, ATX Power cord, case wired properly to the mobo) DO NOT put your hands on anything in the case until you ground yourself on something metal in the case. Make sure you have all the wiring from the case plugged in properly to the mobo.. i.e. power switch, reset switch, power led, hd led, and the speaker. How did you install the cpu, did you open the arm and drop the cpu in gently and then lock the arm? is the memory seated properly, the agp card? and so on. All of these things need to be installed properly for this to work. It is a very strong possibility this is a DOA board. I've had a few, it is frustrating, but be very dilligent and tedious about installing each component... that way you will know definitally if it's the mobo OR the Graphics Card OR the CPU OR the Memory that are bad (in that order of likelyhood one is bad).
 

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alright, i've seen this happen before because of 2 things. First, make SURE that the motherboard stand-off screws are ONLY lined up with the holes in the
motherboard itself, i've seen people that just put them in all the holes or the wrong ones, and they ground the board resulting in power but NO video whatsoever.
After you're sure you've checked that, then see what brand and wattage your Power Supply is. ECS boards like high quality ones that are AMD approved.
For your board and chip it should be a 300Watt like Enermax, AGI, or something heavy duty. If these also don't fix your problem, then you may just have a
DOA board. Let us know :)
 

kxb177

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I would double check the CMOS jumper. Make sure that it isn't set to clear.

Also, try just the motherboard, RAM, and Video card but take it out of the case, that way you know that it works, and you can narrow it down to the case is shorting it out. (if in fact it is)

Good Luck
 

littletemple

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The case is an enlight 7237 w/ 340w ps from newegg. The cmos is in normal op mode. The cpu and hsf was already installed. I got a mobo/cpu combo board because I didn't want to try to install the cpu. I'll try to take it out of the case and see if it works this afternoon as I am in school now. Let you guys know what happens. Thanks a lot.
 

lazybum550

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i am having the exact same problems except with a gigabyte ga-7dx motherboard, XP 1800+, and a geforce 2 Ti card. Couldn't it also be cpu and not the mobo?