first time builder, need some advice

[caivoma]

I like to build a new computer with a budger around 2000. It will mostly used for video, photographic stuff and occasionly playing game with World of Warcraft.

Chip:
There are two choices :
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor Socket 939, this is the .130 newcastle core
Newcastle core

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor Socket 939, this is the .090 winchester core
winchester core

Motherboard:
Either go with
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3 Ultra Athlon 64(FX) Skt939
MSI


ASUS "K8N-E Deluxe" NVIDIA nForce3
ASUS

At this moment, i am going with the Asus because i heard msi have some quality control problem. First time builder so i dont want deal with unnecessary bugs.


Ram:
Need 2 Gb of ram, since i am not going to overclock, i will with 2 gb of value ram. Any suggestion on this.

Power Supply:
Antec NeoPower 480W Power Supply
PS

Graphic Card:
Either BFG 6800GT or EVGA 6800GT. Open to suggestion, but likely going with nivdia after they fixed the hardware issue.

Case:
Thermaltake VA3000 Dream Tower Tsunami VA3000SNA
Case

Hard Drive:
2 Seagate 200GB PATA.

Monitor:
Still looking for the 25% off of the Dell 2100FP.

Sound Card:
I am looking for a good music sound card and sound system. i dont know much about it so any suggestions will help out a lot.

Keyboard and mouse:
probably will be the combo of logitech wireless keyboard and mouse.

Need couple fans and artic silver compound too. That should round it up, if i miss anything, let me know. First time builder so thank for any help.

edit: fix link.

 

[dtboos]

Get the winchester core, 90nm Athlon 64 3200+ instead of the newcastle .13 micron 3500+ chip.

For Harddrives, I'd get one smaller one (80-120gig) strictly for 2 partitions (Operating system, and one for games) and get a larger 200Gig drive for storage of your video/music/documents ect.

For sound card, I'd go with a Soundblaster Audigy 2.

For Powersupply, I'd suggest the Ultra X-Connect 500watt PSU. Excellent quality, great stability, and you only connect which cables you need, as you need them. Zipzoomfly.com has them, but newegg does not.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...jsp?ProductCode=273002 (there are other colors as well)

You sure you need 2gig of RAM? Alot of boards have problems with all 4 mem slots used, so you'll have to buy more expensive 1GIG sticks. But Kingston, Crucial and Corsair make good value ram.

Either MoBo will do you just fine.

The Tsunami Dream case is great, and you really shouldn't need any extra fans. Even the stock heatsink+fan that come with retail Athlon 64 CPU's are good even for slight overclocking (you do want arctic silver though......great stuff).


*edit*BTW all your links are broken

 

[spunducky]

thermaltake shark case black or silver www.xoxide.com $100
antec neopower 480 psu www.newegg.com $120
asus a8n-sli motherboard www.newegg.com $275 (use onboard sound saves money no audigy needed)
amd cpu www.monarchcomputers.com $200-850 amd release partner get the new 90nm type
ocz ddr400 or ddr550 if you plan on overclocking www.newegg.com 512x2 min dual channel non ecc non registerd nonbuffered memory $200-300
evga or xfx pci express 6800gt www.gameve.com nvidia release partner
western digital raptors 10k 35gbx2 or 75gbx2 sata raid 0 www.newegg.com $200-340
alternative 200gb maxtor diamond max 10 7200k www.newegg.com $100
thermaltake silent tower heatpipe and fan cpu cooler and arctic silver 5 www.newegg.com $40
danger den watercooling (if ur going this route and non conductive fluid) www.dangerden.com $300
pioneer dvd burner 16x dual layer dual format www.newegg.com $65
lite on cd burner / dvd combo drive 52x32x52x16x www.newegg.com $35
samsung floppy www.newegg.com $10 only need this if your gonna set up a raid 0 array

www.frozencpu.com for rounded cables, lights, modding accessories and the like

ive bought from all these vendors no problems try buying everything at same time so incase u gotta rma ur parts your 30 days are not up and have to go thru a manufacture

 

[nick1985]

all of your links are bad

 

[Gothgar]

if you aren't over clocking I would not get the MSI Neo, people have more problems with those than they are worth.

Also, I have WoW, you do not need 2 gigs of RAM, trust me, 1 gig will be plenty, unless you plan on playing WoW, and minimising it every once in a while to do video editing, or something

Go with the Winchester Core, it should be cooler, and perform pretty close to the same.

Also, save some money of the PSU, get the Antec Truepower 430, it should fill all of your needs...

everything else looks good, sound card depends on if you like gaming or music more... and don't forget a quiality set of speakers

 

[caivoma]

Thank you for the suggestion, links should all be fix.
The reason i am going with 2 gb of ram because of all the video editing. I playing wow with 512 mb and they work fine .
I also forgot to put on optical drives too, probably should be 2 dvd burner. Keep the suggestion coming, i should be start ordering on thursday.

 

[spunducky]

take a look at the thermalright xp120 heatsink with a nice 120 fan seems to be the best heatpipe cooler around
like i said most boards have great onboard sound 24 bit 8 channel same thing that the audigy has and thats an extra 200 bucks saving dont save money on the psu do it elsewhere get yourself the antec neopower 480 . maximum pc just gave it a 10 outta 10 and my ultra x connect a 4 outta 10 lol but ive had no problems so far ya the msi is very unstable my asus seems super stable my cousins msi neo crashes all the time one day it runs hot the other its cooler lol i dont get it but i got no probs with my asus and its overclocked nicely

im playing wow also
archimonde horde tauren shaman lvl 4 lol character name vago
warsong alliance night elf rogue lvl 7 lol again character name vago

ill pwn you on star wars battlefront thou [CI]DarkLord Vago

built my first comp last month was a fun tweak and its way better then the crap u buy at dell was kinda fun want to o it again i was scared at first i didnt think it was gonna work lol

 

[spunducky]

sorry about double post i just re read ur post



logitech 5500 5.1 surround sound

keyboard and mouse combo

microsoft biometrics keyboard and optical mouse $99

never have to remember passwords again just put ur thumb on the fingerprint reader built into the keyboard

check out ocz technologies for memory there timings beat all others and i think they also have a value section

cya in wow if u play on archimonde or warsong!!!

and do urself a favor and get the asus a8n-sli 939 board it will give u the most upgradable board u can buy at the moment and the onboard sound is probly just as good as the audigy and it comes with sata 2
pci express and buy one 6800gt now and upgrade to 2 later when they are 200 bucks

 

[ts3433]

The Newcastle-core 3500+ will be better if you don't plan to overclock much.

The Asus you've listed is a S754 motherboard, IIRC. Since you don't want the K8N Neo2, I'd suggest an Epox if you want to go AGP, or the $120 Chaintech VNF4/Ultra if you want one PCIe x16 slot.

Get 2GB of value RAM from Corsair or Mushkin. 4x512 is probably the most cost-effective option, though you'll have to read up on any speed detriments that come with filling all four memory banks. (I've heard that though you'll default to DDR333, you can manually go back to DDR400. The increased latencies shouldn't be too much of a problem either, though you'll have to go with a 2T command rate instead of 1T.)

I think your case and PSU look good; for the PSU, you can also consider an OCZ, Enermax, Seasonic, or a lower-end PCP&C (Silencer 410?).

I'm not sure what WoW requires in terms of graphics horsepower, but from what I've seen I think you'd be good to go with a 6600GT. Apparently the PCIe versions can be found cheap on ZZF, so consider that plus the Chaintech above.

The best value in music-oriented sound cards is probably the Chaintech AV710. It's $25 and uses a VIA Envy chipset, the same chipset used in the M-Audio Revolution. Tell us a little more about the kind of speakers you're looking for and we can probably give you more help there.

If you're going to use the stock cooler, you don't need thermal compound. You probably don't need tons of fans either--my system does fine with the single 120mm exhaust in my Antec SLK3700AMB.

 

[caivoma]

Fix the link again. and pump.

Seem like now i have to go with intel chip. I dont know much about intel motherboard so any suggestion on that would be nice.

Chip

Motherboard:
Dont know which to choose.
Asus P4C800-E-Deluxe (Intel 800/533 FSB)
First

Asus P4P800-E Deluxe 865PE Audio/GB-LAN/USB/IEEE/SATA/400-DDR/800-FSB Intel P4
Second
Thanx

 

[dtboos]

Why do you need to go intel? AMD outperforms Intel by far.

 

[caivoma]

I just help build the computer, i have no control over what parts to buy. He is a intel fanboi, hate amd. What can I say ? He said intel got better front side bus at 800 mhz, rate faster at 3.2ghz compare with amd 3500+ run at 2.2 ghz. I did my best. So help please, i dont know much about intel mobo.

 

[ComatoseDelirium]

if you are going intel.. I would recommend the Pentium 4E at atleast 3.0 GHZ(socket 775), and I love the MSI P4 mobo, anything 865PE (socket 775) or up the 915's have good reviews, good value ram : http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=20-141-198&depa=1 2 of those dual channelled, and this baby will fly, I built a system like that for my father, and its working great