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[Platypus]

*cough*debian*cough*

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
*cough*debian*cough*

what part of debian can do that stuff?

 

[agnitrate]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
*cough*debian*cough*

Using debian? I think God is trying to tell you something Drew....

The choice is clear : GENTOO!!!!

-silver

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Electrode
I hope you decide to stick with it. If you can't figure something out, ask in the OS forum and someone (maybe even me) will try to answer it.

how do you distribute group policy to clients?

My friend said to tell you LDAP.

tell your friend LDAP is a protocol not a program or a service. what program or service on linux can distribute it on clients and clients can poll for updates.

What's the Windows 2000 Server's equivalent of Novell's Salvage?
Oh wait, I forgot, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY!

OSes do not need to be totally identical, each one has strong and weak points.
Windows' strong point is that any moron can use it, and that it's a halfway decent gaming OS.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Electrode

Originally posted by: Descartes
I think perhaps he was talking about how you can push software updates/etc to the client using GPO automatically, facilities that are not inherent in LDAP nor available (at least not that I'm aware) for *nix platforms.

In most *NIX environments, applications are either run remotely using SSH, remote X, and the like, or loaded off of an NFS share and executed locally. Either way, the software is installed at a central location (be it one server or a cluster) and updates are applied directly to it, and the update becomes effective on the clients the next time the app is run. No need to jump through hoops like you need to for Windows clients, which always require at least some part of the application to physically exist on each and every workstation.

Accept it Ameesh: Windows gets its ass handed to it in the networked computing environment. You would have been better attacking something home desktop-related. For that matter, why do you even have to troll? Fine, you love Windows. No need to attack everyone who wants to try something different.

what if you wanted ohh i dont know reset everyones password who worked in a paticular building? or maybe change all the computers in the accounting department to have a passworded screen saver rather then an unpassworded one. Or how about something like anyone in a certain child domain has to send all their network traffic encrypted as well as authenticated but everyone else just has to authenticate.

A script could do all of those and more.

Does your employment with Microsoft require that you troll all linux related posts? I know MS considers Linux the biggest threat they have ever faced but your zealousness in attacking it is absurd.

 

[agnitrate]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
*cough*debian*cough*

what part of debian can do that stuff?

Certainly even you must admit that *nix has some pretty amazing software for it. It's still growing and has more features added to it everyday, you just have to find what you're looking for. I can't wait to see where it will be 5 years down the road....

-silver

 

[Ameesh]

you guys will know when im trolling,right now im just asking questions and you are getting defensive.

 

[agnitrate]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
you guys will know when im trolling,right now im just asking questions and you are getting defensive.

I just want to hear you say that you think some of the software is well-coded and not the evil monster you always make it out to be

-silver

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: agnitrate

Originally posted by: Ameesh
you guys will know when im trolling,right now im just asking questions and you are getting defensive.

I just want to hear you say that you think some of the software is well-coded and not the evil monster you always make it out to be

-silver

to tell you the truth i havent looked at any recent linux source code. the last time i installed it was when red hat 5.2 came out, it sucked really bad then, it didnt support my ps2 mouse or my agp video card. There hasnt been a compelling reason to try it again as there was no features or functionality that they have that i cant get from windows right now.

admittly it was a while ago when i tried it and i was thinking i'll load up one of the new builds this weekend and give it a go. perhaps a debian distro or maybe slackware.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hate it when somebody says any moron can use Windows.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I hate it when somebody says any moron can use Windows.

Yeah. Some of these people are far too moronic to handle Windows. They need everything to be made, supported, and software provided by Fisher-Price.

- M4H

 

[agnitrate]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: agnitrate

Originally posted by: Ameesh
you guys will know when im trolling,right now im just asking questions and you are getting defensive.

I just want to hear you say that you think some of the software is well-coded and not the evil monster you always make it out to be

-silver

to tell you the truth i havent looked at any recent linux source code. the last time i installed it was when red hat 5.2 came out, it sucked really bad then, it didnt support my ps2 mouse or my agp video card. There hasnt been a compelling reason to try it again as there was no features or functionality that they have that i cant get from windows right now.

admittly it was a while ago when i tried it and i was thinking i'll load up one of the new builds this weekend and give it a go. perhaps a debian distro or maybe slackware.

I admit that it doesn't provide the best functionality out of the box but you don't necessarily try *nix for ease of use. I tried it because I love coding and I wanted to try something different so I gave it a whirl. It's not always the easiest thing to do but it's ALWAYS fun when you manage to figure something new out or you get something to work. I think I would have a lot less fun in Linux if EVERYTHING was done for you.

I still think it is amazing X works at all seeing how it is like 2 million lines of code without a standard to build upon. It's just a programmer's environment that everything is open source and you can see just how everything is implemented that you think might be impossible.

I bet I would marvel at some of the ways things in Windows are implemented as well (I think Windows is like ~50 million lines of code though) but alas, not available for viewing

Maybe one day I will be able to work on a large scale project such as that. I just love programming communities (even if they are private ones inside a company) that all work together to produce some workable final product. Then my world would be complete

Let us know what you think of a new linux distro if you try it out. It would be interesting to hear a perspective from a the competition.

-silver

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Electrode

Originally posted by: Descartes
what if you wanted ohh i dont know reset everyones password who worked in a paticular building?

I'm pretty sure you can do that with NIS.

or maybe change all the computers in the accounting department to have a passworded screen saver rather then an unpassworded one. Or how about something like anyone in a certain child domain has to send all their network traffic encrypted as well as authenticated but everyone else just has to authenticate.

As somebody else said, you could write scripts to do that stuff fairly easily.

Could also use something like CFEngine. I haven't used it myself, but one of our administrators is using it for our beowulf cluster maintenance.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
you guys will know when im trolling,right now im just asking questions and you are getting defensive.

In that case, answer the salvage question. A user changes and saves a document 15 times, then notices he accidently deleted something from it the 5th or 6th time which he needs. How do I easily recover that version without having to use something like Visual Source Safe for every word document anyone ever makes or searching backup tapes?

This is purely because we are replacing a Novell server at work with a Windows 2000 server, and I do not want to lose any functionality during the process.

Edit: And everyone just presumed you were trolling, as that is what you do 99.99% of the time in threads about non-Windows OSes.

Edit 2: And the group policy stuff is something you asked before iirc, which basically means you either are trolling or have a terrible memory.