First nehalem CPU-z screenshot

[JAG87]

might be fake, might be not, but just in case, make sure you tissue nearby to contain yourself.

this is a dual processor system running two quad core nehalem cpus, resulting in 8 physical cores, and 16 logical cores (nehalem has hyperthreading).

enjoy!

 

[Tempered81]

Is that showing sixteen cores in Task Manager performance?

 

[JAG87]

thats correct

 

[Sylvanas]

My next CPU :heart:

 

[Tempered81]

Is nahelem supposed to be 16-core in January 2009?

 

[JAG87]

there will be native quad cores and dual die 8 cores.

but they have hyperthreading, which makes them 8 logical cores and 16 logical cores.

 

[nonameo]

I'm not so sure that applications will be so multithreaded by then.

 

[lopri]

OP says the task manager is from a dual socket system. I don't think Intel road map shows octa-cores until 32nm at the earliest.

What's the speed of QuickPath (Intel version of HyperTransport)? The cpu-z is probably not yet ready for Nehalem, but I am liking the x16 multi and 133MHz base NB frequency. That's probably possible since there will be no more FSB, and if Intel doesn't mess up with the dividers (although unlikely) we might get lucky to play with many multipliers like we did with Socket 939. *crossing fingers*

 

[JAG87]

I wouldn't put too much trust in the FSB reading. might be completely wrong since CPU-z isn't coded for it.

also this is a dual QUAD core system. so 8 physical cores in total guys, dont get confused. it shows 16 cores cause of hyperthreading

 

[palladium]

Originally posted by: Sylvanas
My next CPU :heart:

Count me in :heart:

 

[CatchPhrase]

take that supreme commander!

 

[Ika]

If this were LGA775 it would definitely be my next cpu :heart:

but alas, it cannot be. oh wells.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Nehalem is a non-entity until the price of DDR3 comes back down to earth.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Nehalem is a non-entity until the price of DDR3 comes back down to earth.

By the time Nehalem is actually available at retail prices, DDR3 should be a little more down to earth. This is many moons from now. Many moons.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Nehalem is a non-entity until the price of DDR3 comes back down to earth.

By the time Nehalem is actually available at retail prices, DDR3 should be a little more down to earth. This is many moons from now. Many moons.

wait, "back" down? was the price on DDR3 ever down?

It's going to be a tall order to drop far enough; unless DDR3 can show some fairly tangible improvements its going to be hard to recover from DDR2 spoiling us with 8GB of ram for under $150 today, and who knows how cheap it will get by then.

Gigabyte's iRAM in a DDR2 flavor is a product that could be very tempting if it actually existed...

 

[MarcVenice]

DDR3 prices have been predicted to come down really soon, once manufacturers start cranking out that stuff full throttle for OEM pc's, but right now OEM pc's come with ddr2 most of the time, so no real need yet. But ddr3 prices should become 'real' second half of this year.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

!:Q! Wow.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
!:Q! Wow.

I agree.


Question:
What will be the socket used for Nehalem?
I know its not 775 but what is it?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Quote George OU.

Intel not only showed off its next generation 45nm Penryn processors at Intel fall IDF 2007 during CEO Paul Otellini keynote, they showed a three-week old second generation 45nm Nehalem processor running Windows XP.

What?s notable about the Nehalem processor is that not only does this processor improve upon the execution engine in Penryn; it also includes a brand new memory architecture called ?QuickPath? (AKA CSI) that will vastly improve the memory subsystem to allow the chip to scale multiple-cores. Each Nehalem processor will have 4+ or 8+ cores with two threads per core which means it will be able to run 16 execution threads in hardware. Current x86/x64 processors from Intel and just recently AMD have 4 cores and a total of 4 execution threads so Nehalem should be a massive jump in thread count, scalability, and performance. [Update 3:00PM - I got a clarification that the first version of Nehalem will be 4 cores in 2008, the second version of Nehalem will be 8 cores on a single monolithic die in 2009.]


http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=382&type=expert

 

[Sheninat0r]

It's LGA 1307 iirc, or something like that.

Back on topic: I want that processor.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
!:Q! Wow.

I agree.


Question:
What will be the socket used for Nehalem?
I know its not 775 but what is it?

There will be two sockets, LGA1160 and LGA1366



LGA1160 is for Lynnfield and Havendale, respectively the dual core and quad core running on DMI (Direct Media Interface, new name for FSB)

LGA1366 is for Bloomfield, the quad core running on QPI (Quick Path Interface).



Either way you have to change sockets, and ideally if funds permit it, you want to get LGA1366. Alas, I fear Bloomfield will only come in Extreme Edition flavors. But the performance should be stellar: combine nehalem's processing power with QPI (which is intel's version of hyper transport), fed by high speed DDR3 memory. Maybe there wont be that much difference between QPI and DMI, since performance on intel processors has never been bandwith sensitive, but with nehalem that trend might change, and QPI might actually make a difference.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: JAG87
LGA1160 is for Lynnfield and Havendale, respectively the dual core and quad core running on DMI (Direct Media Interface, new name for FSB)

native quad core, with dual core variants? are they disabling the other 2 cores, where as in kentsfield, they are doubling up 2 conroe dies on 1 package?

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: jaredpace

Originally posted by: JAG87
LGA1160 is for Lynnfield and Havendale, respectively the dual core and quad core running on DMI (Direct Media Interface, new name for FSB)

native quad core, with dual core variants? are they disabling the other 2 cores, where as in kentsfield, they are doubling up 2 conroe dies on 1 package?

no, they are completely different architectures, the dual core variant will have an on-die GPU. a dual core die is much smaller than the native quad core, and leaves room for the on-die GPU.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Isn't there 3 sockets. Or does the the Server chip with 24 MB. of L3 use .

If Bloomfield uses LGA 1366. The server chip using L3 cache should need A few more pins.

I haven't seen a dieshot yet of a core with L3 cache.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Isn't there 3 sockets. Or does the the Server chip with 24 MB. of L3 use .

If Bloomfield uses LGA 1366. The server chip using L3 cache should need A few more pins.

I haven't seen a dieshot yet of a core with L3 cache.

Beckton processors (the 24MB cache chips you speak of) will use LGA1567, but who cares about them, I dont think anyone is going to buy 4 processors and a four socket motherboard.

LGA1160 and LGA1366 is all people will care about. What is sad is that they are not interchangeble (pretty evident), and LGA1366 will be home to a faster nehalem processor. So when someone is buying a nehalem platform, they will have to decide what they want upfront.