First Intel Build - Looking for suggestions to my current parts list.

[llRU5TYNUT5ll]

I understand the sentiment of keeping the dollars where it matters, but it's not like you're on a (tight) budget here either, and spending up to 5% of the build on the case isn't what I would call excessive. Cases are more than aesthetics, better cases will tend to have better engineering solutions and quality, often making them easier to build in and have good ventilation and/or noise suppression(these two characteristics are often at odds with eachother, to some degree).

Of course it's your money and your choice, but I don't think you would regret buying the R5 for instance. It's been out for a couple years now and is universally loved. The cooling is good but not the best, as the case focuses more on staying quiet.

I see what you mean. I think I like the meshify c looks a bit better and performance wise id think they would be similar correct?

Also, What about the i7-8700k being more than I need? I have seen several videos where the i5-8600k performes nearly identical. What am I missing and what would I be giving up? Just want to make sure it’s worth the extra hundred since I’m a little over my mark with current prices.





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[UsandThem]

For gaming, I would prefer to have a 1440p 27” or larger 21:9 144Hz Monitor. I like the idea of a 21:9 but looking at the pricing I’m not sure if I can afford that. Let me know in the comments. I really want a refresh rate above 60Hz at a minimum.

Also, What about the i7-8700k being more than I need? I have seen several videos where the i5-8600k performes nearly identical. What am I missing and what would I be giving up? Just want to make sure it’s worth the extra hundred since I’m a little over my mark with current prices.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-3

nd that has shaped up like this: An i5-8600K, for a person who is primarily playing games, is more than adequate when compared to an i7-8700K. In most instances, ignoring special use cases like livestreaming via H264, production tasks, or 144Hz framerates, an i7 would be excess spending.

Coffee Lake:

i5 = 6 cores + 0 = 6 threads
i7 = 6 cores + 6 HT = 12 threads

The i7 will last longer and stay more relevant before you have to replace it. More games will use more threads in the near future. It's worth the difference.

 

[Ken g6]

I'm having a meltdown over Intel CPU issues right now. Are you sure you don't want AMD Ryzen?

 

[Campy]

I think I like the meshify c looks a bit better and performance wise id think they would be similar correct?

It's a nice case for sure, I think it looks good too. Just be aware it's a bit on the smaller side. I think everything should fit though. I would probably add 1-2 more fans too, but then again I'm a bit of a freak when it comes to airflow.

 

[llRU5TYNUT5ll]

So I just watched this video https://youtu.be/NoxpAl5ED0Y and I am concerned that I wont be able to use the Meshify C case with my video card and AIO. In the video he has the same GPU I will be using but a different MOBO and cooler so im not sure if id have the same issue but how can I be sure? Every where im reading it seem like the AIO needs to be mounted in the front with exhaust on the top.


Suggestion would be great. My modified build list link is in the original post if that helps.

 

[Campy]

Well first of all you've chosen a 240mm radiator cooler whereas in the video they tried to mount a 280mm rad. 240mm rads will be offset outwards(closer to the glass side of the case) and be further away from the motherboard.

Fractal's site states that the Meshify C supports 240mm rads up top, if the components on the motherboard are maximum 40mm tall. If you stick with that Corsair Vengeance low profile memory you've selected I think you will be fine mounting the radiator up top.

 

[llRU5TYNUT5ll]

Well first of all you've chosen a 240mm radiator cooler whereas in the video they tried to mount a 280mm rad. 240mm rads will be offset outwards(closer to the glass side of the case) and be further away from the motherboard.

Fractal's site states that the Meshify C supports 240mm rads up top, if the components on the motherboard are maximum 40mm tall. If you stick with that Corsair Vengeance low profile memory you've selected I think you will be fine mounting the radiator up top.

I think you may have been looking at my original proposed build. There is a link to the modified version in the OP. The AIO in that one states to be a 280mm. I really like the way it looks so I’d rather change cases these use a different radiator if possible. Also the memory I have selected is the Kingston fury. Not sure if that matters. What cases would go well with this build in your opinion that wouldn’t break the bank?


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[Campy]

I think you may have been looking at my original proposed build. There is a link to the modified version in the OP.

I think you should take a look at the link in the OP too, you need to change the link.

Personally I would probably pick the R6, but if you want to stay under $100 the R5 or Define S are good options. They both have good water cooling support and the Define S in particular is very spacious and easy to build in imo. It's a good option if you won't be using many 3.5" HDDs.

 

[llRU5TYNUT5ll]

I think you should take a look at the link in the OP too, you need to change the link.

Personally I would probably pick the R6, but if you want to stay under $100 the R5 or Define S are good options. They both have good water cooling support and the Define S in particular is very spacious and easy to build in imo. It's a good option if you won't be using many 3.5" HDDs.

Apologies, I did not realize that when I make changes to a list it changes the extension. It has been fixed. Take a look and let me know what you think. Also, I'm starting to debate on whether or not I should be considering a build that can be overclocked. Would it really be worth it for my intended use or am I just wasting money?

 

[Campy]

Apologies, I did not realize that when I make changes to a list it changes the extension. It has been fixed. Take a look and let me know what you think. Also, I'm starting to debate on whether or not I should be considering a build that can be overclocked. Would it really be worth it for my intended use or am I just wasting money?

No worries, I had a hunch what was going on To me your list looks good, but there are a few things I would definitely change. First of all getting some faster memory, such as this or if you want something a little cheaper this.

I was initially worried about the clearance between the memory and the Kraken cooler in the Meshify C, but I found a completed build on pcpartpicker where it seems to work, so I think it should work. I'm not 100% sure though, such things do depend on the motherboard and where ram slots and heat sinks are placed on it aswell.

You've selected six extra fans which is excessive, most decent cases come with at least two pre-installed and the Kraken has two of it's own. A couple more in addition to that should be plenty.

As for overclocking, if you want to stay above or closer to 144fps you'll have something to gain from it, whether or not it's worth it is up to you.

 

[fastamdman]

One thing that I will point out, is that you are spending 155 dollars for fans, with a watercooling setup. Push/Pull doesn't add that much performance versus one way or the other for starters. Secondly, the noctua fans are way over priced. You can get similar performance much cheaper. I agree that it's good to have decent case airflow to keep vrm temps at a reasonable temp and other hardware at decent temps, but you are really going over board with the fans in my opinion. If you want to save some money, I would start there. That is A LOT of money in fans, when you are already doing water cooling.

 

[llRU5TYNUT5ll]

No worries, I had a hunch what was going on To me your list looks good, but there are a few things I would definitely change. First of all getting some faster memory, such as this or if you want something a little cheaper this.

I was initially worried about the clearance between the memory and the Kraken cooler in the Meshify C, but I found a completed build on pcpartpicker where it seems to work, so I think it should work. I'm not 100% sure though, such things do depend on the motherboard and where ram slots and heat sinks are placed on it aswell.

You've selected six extra fans which is excessive, most decent cases come with at least two pre-installed and the Kraken has two of it's own. A couple more in addition to that should be plenty.

As for overclocking, if you want to stay above or closer to 144fps you'll have something to gain from it, whether or not it's worth it is up to you.

I have watched several videos on ram speeds and it seems the performance difference between 2133, and 2666 is only a few FPS in games and beyond that it’s even less. What am I missing?

 

[UsandThem]

I have watched several videos on ram speeds and it seems the performance difference between 2133, and 2666 is only a few FPS in games and beyond that it’s even less. What am I missing?

You're building a new high-end system that you will have for years. Spend the extra few bucks for some good DDR4 3000 - 3200 RAM:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews...Memory_Performance_Benchmark_Analysis/11.html

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-review_1

If you catch it on sale, it's usually not much difference in price (like select G Skill RAM on Newegg right now for 15% off). Faster RAM usually only gives you a small increase in FPS. However, it's the minimum frame rates that show the biggest increase in performance.

The benchmarks here demonstrate that memory bandwidth is still important when it comes to processor overclocking though - you can waste a lot of time and energy overclocking your i7 8700K to 5.0GHz, but if you're using bargain basement 2133MHz DDR4, it'll still run games slower than a stock chip paired with faster modules.