First: GTX 680 review !!!

[BoFox]

LOL. I can't stop laughing at these assertions about all the skeptical posts being attributed to AMD marketing. Obviously if you call out a fake performance chart for what it is or express skepticism you're an AMD marketer, hilarious. I'm sure you have someone here at this BB who can see our email addresses and IP address (and these mysteriously make their way back to an admin at another forum, HMM). I'm sure the research has already happened and has been forwarded to the appropriate parties at another forum (who thinks some conspiracy is going on with AMD employees posting here en masses - seriously AMD has nothing better to do while at work I guess! LOL!)

Back to topic, please, or you're getting in trouble here with a degenerative OT post that is personally directed. I am in no way affiliated with Nvidia (and I do not post here under any other names.. I'm the great BoFox). ^_^ There you go with my answer to your accusation.

Satan (meaning "accuser")

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Satan

It's just fun to express something never before expressed about S3D. Anybody liked the new information about the "cubed" resolution or "free" 2x1 SSAA?

 

[blackened23]

Back to topic, please, or you're getting in trouble here with a degenerative OT post that is personally directed. I am in no way affiliated with Nvidia. There you go with my answer to your accusation.


http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Satan

It's just fun to express something never before expressed about S3D. Anybody liked the new information about the "cubed" resolution or "free" 2x1 SSAA?

I never said you're an nvidia marketer, I think that is ridiculous. I just have a hard time believing that AMD or nvidia would have nothing better to do than post on forums all day long, rollo is the exception to this though. Earlier post was sort of a derailment, my bad on that.

 

[NIGELG]

Awkward! You know, his contention about S3D running at half the frame rate of 2D is so "duh". It's like being shocked that 5760x1080 runs much slower than 1080p. I know the frame rates in S3D are limited to 60fps, but you're seeing 2 sides to each frame, so you're in fact seeing 120 different frames per second. 60 fps is pretty fluid anyways.

My compensation is a "pat-on-the-shoulder" affirmation that I have done a good job of expressing myself as to what I recommend as per my expert advice. My friend who has 3D Vision is twice as excited with his new rig, showing it off to every single visitor in his home. Just to see a grin on that face, it's awesome. And this GTX 680 is only going to further add to the "amazing" experience of PC gaming up until Windows 8 with DX11.1 finally pushes S3D as a standard. Having half the frame rate is definitely worth the "cubed" resolution (1920x1080x1920) - an order of a magnitude greater information to the brain. Once the eyes are drawn into true-depth (with convergence user-configured to the point of natural comfort) 3D, the screen also feels twice as big, for you are now seeing both sides to the image - being drawn into that "expanding trapezoidal cube". It makes my 24" feel like 50". The racing tracks in DiRT for example have depth to it, so I can better judge the distances. When switching back to 2D using a hotkey, it suddenly feels so flat and life-less, and I can race better in 3D due to better depth perception.

Seeing both sides basically gives you free 2x1 SSAA (similar to how temporal AA works) as the object in focus has two stereoscopic sides of the same edges being blended together. Or I could just call it 3840x1080x1920. Since the horizontal resolution is also how much information there could be regarding the DEPTH resolution, that's why the depth could also be up to 1920 pixels in a "temporal" way.

Well, the hostility and the force of AMD marketing is utterly trying to undermine this thread based on GTX 680 (NV's product, not AMD). Just to say something positive about GTX 680 is being met with so much belligerence from the haters (whose purpose here is far from anything enthusiastic). *Draws out a voodoo doll to jinx the belligerence going on here*

You were stomped on at Beyond 3d a little while ago.Go and continue to post your Nvidia fanboyisms at ABT where banned forum rejects/fanboys gather to thrash other sites and posters.

Or maybe apply to Nvidia for a marketing/Focus group position?Believe it or not many gamers are not interested in 3d/h3d and PhysX.

Sheesh it's hard to get any reliable info on new Nvidia cards...only a lot of Nostradamus posts.

 

[Bman123]

only 74fps in mw3, I call shens on that one. With any decent cpu that card should run mw3 maxxed at 60fps plus

 

[tviceman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&ob=av2n

Don't know why you would want to set yourself up for such dissapointment. Look at what we do know about the card and what you are expecting and then look at historically what has been done. You are expecting a miracle.

Would be something to see, much like tears of blood coming out of the Madonna's eyes. :sneaky:

Those sweet dreams you tried so hard to shoot down appears to just be you in denial and argumentative. Based on Anandtech's own most recent reviews, it looks like there will be as many, if not more, games than not where GK104 has a legitimate shot at being >=100% faster than gtx560ti.:

Crysis Warhead 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 16fps, hd7970 - 32.9
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 29.7, hd7970 - 50.3

Metro2033: 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 20fps, hd7970 - 36
1920x1200 gtx560ti - 31.5, hd7970 - 54

Dirt 3 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 49.5, hd7970 - 78.8
1920x1200 gtx560ti - 73, hd7970 - 104

Batman Arkham City 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 26fps, hd7970 - 52
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 44, hd7970 - 81

Battlefield 3: 2560x1600 no MSAA: gtx560ti - 33.7, hd7970 - 49.7
1920x1200 4x MSAA: gtx560ti 35.9, hd7970 - 48.8

Civilization 5 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 35.9, hd7970 - 56.6
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 50.3, hd7970 - 88.5

I skipped Portal 2 because it's entirely moot and Total War Shogun info is not available on Anand's benchmarks for the given information I was comparing.

 

[NIGELG]

The original poster has one post and has left the building after stirring the pot...

Strange indeed.

 

[sontin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&ob=av2n

Don't know why you would want to set yourself up for such dissapointment. Look at what we do know about the card and what you are expecting and then look at historically what has been done. You are expecting a miracle.

Would be something to see, much like tears of blood coming out of the Madonna's eyes. :sneaky:

I don't know a lot about the card and the chip. But do you read any negative comment from someone who was in SF?

This is from nVidia:

We expect the release of our new Kepler architecture to continue the growth in our GPU business. The power efficiency of our Kepler architecture provides a significant differentiator.

http://services.corporate-ir.net/SE...WSURJQUNvcnBvcmF0aW9uXzEwS18yMDEyMDMxMy5wZGY=

 

[AtenRa]

It will be more than two times faster than a GTX560TI.

I believe you meant to say 60% faster than GTX560Ti , not GTX580

 

[Grooveriding]

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Good effort! Got right on that.

680 will not be 60% faster than a 580, thanks for going to all the effort though..

 

[AtenRa]

Those sweet dreams you tried so hard to shoot down appears to just be you in denial and argumentative. Based on Anandtech's own most recent reviews, it looks like there will be as many, if not more, games than not where GK104 has a legitimate shot at being >=100% faster than gtx560ti.:

Crysis Warhead 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 16fps, hd7970 - 32.9
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 29.7, hd7970 - 50.3

Metro2033: 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 20fps, hd7970 - 36
1920x1200 gtx560ti - 31.5, hd7970 - 54

Dirt 3 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 49.5, hd7970 - 78.8
1920x1200 gtx560ti - 73, hd7970 - 104

Batman Arkham City 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 26fps, hd7970 - 52
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 44, hd7970 - 81

Battlefield 3: 2560x1600 no MSAA: gtx560ti - 33.7, hd7970 - 49.7
1920x1200 4x MSAA: gtx560ti 35.9, hd7970 - 48.8

Civilization 5 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 35.9, hd7970 - 56.6
1920x1200: gtx560ti - 50.3, hd7970 - 88.5

I skipped Portal 2 because it's entirely moot and Total War Shogun info is not available on Anand's benchmarks for the given information I was comparing.

I believe HD7970 will be faster in 1600p and Eyefinity/Surround than GK104.

 

[sontin]

I believe you meant to say 60% faster than GTX560Ti , not GTX580

Nope. D:

 

[chimaxi83]

Back to topic, please, or you're getting in trouble here with a degenerative OT post that is personally directed. I am in no way affiliated with Nvidia (and I do not post here under any other names.. I'm the great BoFox). ^_^ There you go with my answer to your accusation.


http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Satan

It's just fun to express something never before expressed about S3D. Anybody liked the new information about the "cubed" resolution or "free" 2x1 SSAA?

Wow, satan? Dude, you've seriously lost it. Nobody cares about your convoluted championing of 3D. Its "like" you're getting 120 fps? You don't understand the tech behind your infatuation then. Its capped at 60 because of Vsync, but regardless of that, 560ti sli isn't hitting 60fps average, so quit lying to yourself. Nobody cares. Well, except you and your friend.

Again, satan...? Bewildering.

The original poster has one post and has left the building after stirring the pot...

Strange indeed.

Not the first time its happened concerning video cards. Desperate trolls, nothing more.

 

[bryanW1995]

I know the 7970s spent weeks being sold out at many retailers or severely backordered. Obviously as time has gone by , supply has stabilized. Anyway, nobody here has sales figures as F5'ing an etailer doesn't tell you how many cards have been sold.

Its also naive to think that AMD would not react accordingly to the market. All corporations have tons of economics experts working for them to maximize sales, since the prices haven't changed that obviously means they're selling just fine.

Didn't AMD just lay off 90% of their marketing staff? It's extremely naive to think that their "economics department" didn't suffer some cuts as well. And really, how many guys does it take to read The Economist every month and pull predictions out of their ***? I'd be shocked if AMD, or most other companies after the past 4 years of recession, has more than a handful of "economics experts". The CEO/BOD/Sr Management IS the economics dept at many companies.

 

[Awkward]

Nope. D:

 

[Nintendesert]

Didn't AMD just lay off 90% of their marketing staff? It's extremely naive to think that their "economics department" didn't suffer some cuts as well. And really, how many guys does it take to read The Economist every month and pull predictions out of their ***? I'd be shocked if AMD, or most other companies after the past 4 years of recession, has more than a handful of "economics experts". The CEO/BOD/Sr Management IS the economics dept at many companies.

Honestly the way AMD had been run in the past I think instead of sending shills to forums like Nvidia does, they send their economists to forums to ask for financial advice.

 

[bryanW1995]

That looks suspiciously like the package from the voodoo 3 3000 that I paid $200 for at best buy BITD. It didn't help my gaming at all, of course...

 

[Keysplayr]

Nice looking card.

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

Numbers or it didn't happen.

OCUK etailer said they weren't selling nearly as well as they hoped, mainly due to prices being too high, and that even the 7950 was £50 too expensive.

 

[tviceman]

Good effort! Got right on that.

680 will not be 60% faster than a 580, thanks for going to all the effort though..

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Where did I say 60% faster than a gtx580? At 2560x1600 resolution, gtx560ti x 2 does not equal a gtx580 + 60%. It's obvious when you know you have lost a point because you completely evade all the presentable information in front of you and go straight for the jump to conclusions mat.

Crysis Warhead 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 16fps. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say double that.
Metro2033: 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 20fps. Guess what? Yep that's right Double that score.
Batman Arkham City 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 26fps. Wow, would you look at that? Another one that'll double up.

Battlefield 3: 2560x1600 no MSAA: gtx560ti - 33.7. Probably not, but I wouldn't count it out given Nvidia's better performance relative to AMD.
Civilization 5 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 35.9. Ohhhh that'll be a close one. Maybe!


So there will definitely be some doubling up going on. But hey! Sweet dreams are made of these.... err I mean reality!

 

[blastingcap]

LOL It's obvious when you know you have lost a point because you completely evade all the presentable information in front of you and go straight for the jump to conclusions mat.

Crysis Warhead 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 16fps. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say double that.
Metro2033: 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 20fps. Guess what? Yep that's right Double that score.
Batman Arkham City 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 26fps. Wow, would you look at that? Another one that'll double up.

Battlefield 3: 2560x1600 no MSAA: gtx560ti - 33.7. Probably not, but I wouldn't count it out given Nvidia's better performance relative to AMD.
Civilization 5 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 35.9. Ohhhh that'll be a close one. Maybe!


So there will definitely be some doubling up going on. But hey! Sweet dreams are made of these.... err I mean reality!

Are those OC vs. OC numbers?

 

[Awkward]

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Where did I say 60% faster than a gtx580? At 2560x1600 resolution, gtx560ti x 2 does not equal a gtx580 + 60%. It's obvious when you know you have lost a point because you completely evade all the presentable information in front of you and go straight for the jump to conclusions mat.

Crysis Warhead 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 16fps. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say double that.
Metro2033: 2560x1600 gtx560ti - 20fps. Guess what? Yep that's right Double that score.
Batman Arkham City 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 26fps. Wow, would you look at that? Another one that'll double up.

Battlefield 3: 2560x1600 no MSAA: gtx560ti - 33.7. Probably not, but I wouldn't count it out given Nvidia's better performance relative to AMD.
Civilization 5 2560x1600: gtx560ti - 35.9. Ohhhh that'll be a close one. Maybe!


So there will definitely be some doubling up going on. But hey! Sweet dreams are made of these.... err I mean reality!

lol the 680 doesn't even have any credible benchmarks yet...

 

[Grooveriding]

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Good effort, let me know when you've tired yourself out.

 

[railven]

You were stomped on at Beyond 3d a little while ago.Go and continue to post your Nvidia fanboyisms at ABT where banned forum rejects/fanboys gather to thrash other sites and posters.

Or maybe apply to Nvidia for a marketing/Focus group position?Believe it or not many gamers are not interested in 3d/h3d and PhysX.

Sheesh it's hard to get any reliable info on new Nvidia cards...only a lot of Nostradamus posts.

+1 to this. Then he made a thread over at ABT complaining about those guys. Man, does ABT produce anything worth wild? Woof.

HAHAH is that Don Franscisco give his approval? haha that's awesome!

 

[Fire&Blood]

For my new comp, I purposely went with a $70 cheap and used temp card to get by until Kepler (hopefully) starts a price war. I need that 7950 in the < $400 range or an equivalent NV part (660?)

Was hoping for early summer but I may be looking at August when the 7950 finally gets it's opponent. Feels like there are plenty of folks like me, sitting on ~500W PS's and sub $400 budgets and waiting for high end to depreciate.

 

[tviceman]

Good effort! Got right on that.

680 will not be 60% faster than a 580, thanks for going to all the effort though..

Good effort, let me know when you've tired yourself out.

It's obvious when you know you have lost a point because you completely evade all the presentable information in front of you and go straight for the jump to conclusions mat.

You just keep walking into that one -the part about evading presentable information. It must have been a long week for you, seeing how easily you are mixing up posts and how difficult it is for you to digest the small amount of info I copied and pasted.