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First Drive: 2005 Acura RL

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
I must say I'm impressed with that review. If what that journalist says is true, then the RL might be the new king of mid-level luxury cars, dynamically anyway.
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No doubt he probably has an obvious bias towards the Acura, but still is impressive.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: kevman
yawn....there's only so many ways you can sugar coat a turd....
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you are refering to the Neon right?
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no, the 2k5 RL.
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A turd as opposed to what else in it's class?
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are you saying that tihs car is the best in its class?

old rl = turd
new rl = sugar coated turd

 
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: kevman
yawn....there's only so many ways you can sugar coat a turd....
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you are refering to the Neon right?
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no, the 2k5 RL.
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A turd as opposed to what else in it's class?
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are you saying that tihs car is the best in its class?
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Um, how did you comprehend that I said or "implied" it was the best car in it's class with a simple question? It could be 2nd or 3rd best in it's class - does that make it then a turd? Are Porsche 911 GT3's and Ferrari Challenge Stradale's "turds" because they finished 2nd and 3rd in a comparison to a Ford GT?
 
Originally posted by: kevman
old rl = turd
new rl = sugar coated turd
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Old RL = turd
- No doubt, I agree 1 billion^infinity percent.

New RL = sugar coated turd
- Despite the author claiming during the drive that it outperformed in some aspects it's competitors, it's still a turd? They are two totally different style cars. The new RL isn't the old RL with one or two improvements - it's a complete transformation, much like the 3.5TL is to the new TL.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
old rl = turd
new rl = sugar coated turd
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Old RL = turd
- No doubt, I agree 1 billion^infinity percent.

New RL = sugar coated turd
- Despite the author claiming during the drive that it outperformed in some aspects it's competitors, it's still a turd? They are two totally different style cars. The new RL isn't the old RL with one or two improvements - it's a complete transformation, much like the 3.5TL is to the new TL.
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I take that author's opinion with a grain of salt, you said it yourself he might be biased.
True they are styled dramatically different, its better then the old style 100%, but it has kind of a mazda-ish look to it which is not the great, IMO the TL redesign went in a better direction then this one did, I guess I give then credit for not doin a BMW and forcing all the models to look similar. I would definately like to see performance #'s on this car to really see how much better the underpinnings are. That car comes out to be a better performer then the others in that class, then I may change my opinion. For example, the WRX, I thought that car looked 100 times better after sitting in and driving it.
 
Originally posted by: kevman

I take that author's opinion with a grain of salt, you said it yourself he might be biased.
True they are styled dramatically different, its better then the old style 100%, but it has kind of a mazda-ish look to it which is not the great, IMO the TL redesign went in a better direction then this one did, I guess I give then credit for not doin a BMW and forcing all the models to look similar. I would definately like to see performance #'s on this car to really see how much better the underpinnings are. That car comes out to be a better performer then the others in that class, then I may change my opinion. For example, the WRX, I thought that car looked 100 times better after sitting in and driving it.
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I'm sure it drives like a dream 🙂 The TL sure as hell does...makes my 04 Accord feel like a fvcking Yugo. I don't know how willing they'd be to let me drive a RL....maybe after it's out a few months 🙂
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman

I take that author's opinion with a grain of salt, you said it yourself he might be biased.
True they are styled dramatically different, its better then the old style 100%, but it has kind of a mazda-ish look to it which is not the great, IMO the TL redesign went in a better direction then this one did, I guess I give then credit for not doin a BMW and forcing all the models to look similar. I would definately like to see performance #'s on this car to really see how much better the underpinnings are. That car comes out to be a better performer then the others in that class, then I may change my opinion. For example, the WRX, I thought that car looked 100 times better after sitting in and driving it.
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I'm sure it drives like a dream 🙂 The TL sure as hell does...makes my 04 Accord feel like a fvcking Yugo. I don't know how willing they'd be to let me drive a RL....maybe after it's out a few months 🙂
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one thing that kinda bugs me is that body roll, my uncle's cl-s has a very floaty ride - its got its limitations, I hope this one has got a "spirited" ride.
 
Hmmm, I should set the record straight. Its not that I favor Benzes, but moreso German cars. There is a certain difference between Japanese cars and German Cars I can feel when I drive them. For example, my friend had a Maxima, and after driving that for an hour, we stoped at an Infiniti dealership. It had some of the same characteristics-handling, drivetrain, power, design wise. Whereas a German car will have power at both ends of the tach. I've also driven a V6 Accord that a friend of mine has on multiple occasions and we can agree that:
1. You can see the car is front wheel drive from its wheelspin on acceleration.
2. You can feel the handling limits when taking turna due to the oversteer or a FWD car.
Interior layout is a nice, although a little cheap.
Styling is hit or miss, I find it generic.
I'm sorry I wouldn't pay 30k for a honda, prob 30k for a used E-class benz, probably even a 528/530/540 used would be another nice choice as I hate the new Bangle 5, 7 in silver/white/black is okay.
 
Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Hmmm, I should set the record straight. Its not that I favor Benzes, but moreso German cars. There is a certain difference between Japanese cars and German Cars I can feel when I drive them. For example, my friend had a Maxima, and after driving that for an hour, we stoped at an Infiniti dealership. It had some of the same characteristics-handling, drivetrain, power, design wise. Whereas a German car will have power at both ends of the tach. I've also driven a V6 Accord that a friend of mine has on multiple occasions and we can agree that:
1. You can see the car is front wheel drive from its wheelspin on acceleration.
2. You can feel the handling limits when taking turna due to the oversteer or a FWD car.
Interior layout is a nice, although a little cheap.
Styling is hit or miss, I find it generic.
I'm sorry I wouldn't pay 30k for a honda, prob 30k for a used E-class benz, probably even a 528/530/540 used would be another nice choice as I hate the new Bangle 5, 7 in silver/white/black is okay.
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agree

german cars > japanese cars > american cars

Edit: BTW I own a japanese car. affordability wise i think its the exact opposite.
 
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
I must say I'm impressed with that review. If what that journalist says is true, then the RL might be the new king of mid-level luxury cars, dynamically anyway.
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I think the new m35 (not the m45) will give the RL a good run for the money.
 
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: kevman
yawn....there's only so many ways you can sugar coat a turd....
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you are refering to the Neon right?
Click to expand...

no, the 2k5 RL.
Click to expand...

A turd as opposed to what else in it's class?
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well, heres an answer

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...8610&enterthread=y
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Regardless of how much you might hate the Acura, if it is a "turd" compared to it, what does it make the rest of it's "competition" that the RL beats?
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: kevman
yawn....there's only so many ways you can sugar coat a turd....
Click to expand...

you are refering to the Neon right?
Click to expand...

no, the 2k5 RL.
Click to expand...

A turd as opposed to what else in it's class?
Click to expand...


well, heres an answer

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...8610&enterthread=y
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Regardless of how much you might hate the Acura, if it is a "turd" compared to it, what does it make the rest of it's "competition" that the RL beats?
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'beats' based on a biased review...

 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
why was the benz a 4-matic? All wheel drive stinks, and I don't think this car or the TL/TSX looks any better. Anybody agree that these are cosmetically enhanced Civics/Accords? I drive a 96 Toyota Camry and wouldn't want a Lexus simply because I can feel the same car under the makeup.
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From warcrow's thread I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were being objective in your opinions but it seems like you have this affinity for Benzs. You don't think a TL/TSX looks good but you would buy a C230. 😕 You are entitled to your opinion, but as of right now I think it's crap. That's my opinion. 🙂
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My V6 Accord EX > C230.
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i believe i read a review long while ago where they compared the 2004 V6 Accord vs a CLK 320, and the halfprice Accord beats the CLK in EVERY performance catergory.
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except in picking up hot chicks..

 
Originally posted by: KRASH183
RL is nice... but I rather would take the TL... just waiting for the Type S version
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there isn't going to be a Type S version. i think you mean the 'bad@ass' sh-awd version 😀
 
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