First calls to move the country radically to the left

ProfJohn

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The Democrats are not even in power yet and their supporters are already calling for a radical move to the left.

Here is a nice Slate piece ?Time To Socialize Medicine? link
Did anyone see a sign in yesterdays election that points to Americans wanting this to happen?
Two years of ideas like this and Republicans will waltz back into power.
Ideas like this are why so many of us will not vote Democrat. Sure Bush and the Republicans screwed up the war and spent too much money, but I would rather have a lousy Medicare Drug program than socialized medicine. (Would rather have neither.)

Check out this bit where the writer admits the Democrats had no real agenda to get them elected.
But etiquette, if nothing more, requires that the Democrats also put forth some ideas about how they intend to govern, and the evidence suggests they don't have any. It's telling that, in a Washington Post story headlined "Democrats Promise Broad New Agenda," the particulars of what that new agenda happens to be don't appear until the 10th paragraph.
I guess that in the next few weeks and months will we see tons of liberal writers throw out ideas like this. I hope Pelosi and Reid listen to these writers and start talking about ideas like this in congress.

 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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And the problem with nationalized healthcare? There are already millions covered under a nationalized healthplan.

Why not offload medical insurance costs from corporations? You profit-loving-at-all-expense types should love that.

Besides, we're the only major industrialized nation w/o national healthcare. Perhaps you find true enjoyment in knowing that nearly 50 million people lack healthcare. You're one sick puppy.
 

randym431

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You're nutz. Is raising the minimum wage radical? Amending the one sided medicare bill radical? Having accountability in government radical? If so, then your right. These demos will be radical.
 

d3n

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Are you serious, Most of the new Dems are very conservative on many points . Most of the Reps that were booted were northeasters with liberal views. I hope this will mainstream the congress.



 

LunarRay

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I hear folks say we spent trillions on Iraq... (me too) and allow health care needy folks to do with out. We could have spent that money and let Saddam do his thing.. maybe even help him deal with Iran and the rest... you know... Bribe him with arms and a buck or two for his pocket.. to keep the peace.. give him the Nobel Peace Prize and all that... And maybe even have enough left over to create some government works programs like a dam here or there..

To me that is the difference twixt the Right and Left... Same taxpayers are gonna fund the needs only difference is we might have a healthier group of citizens able to work and help pay them taxes..

 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
And the problem with nationalized healthcare? There are already millions covered under a nationalized healthplan.

Why not offload medical insurance costs from corporations? You profit-loving-at-all-expense types should love that.

Besides, we're the only major industrialized nation w/o national healthcare. Perhaps you find true enjoyment in knowing that nearly 50 million people lack healthcare. You're one sick puppy.

If everybody jumped off the cliff do you follow? NM dont ask that, we already know the answer.

I find it interesting the left who champions for the small guy wants to offload the costs of healthcare from corporations to individual tax payers.

What happens when we see long lines at the hospitals, people not getting treatment ect because our govt has rationed healthcare? How about when it ends up costing more through taxes than private insurance does?

Remember, in a nationalized system, the system is now subject to the funding and will of the people. Much like schools, it may find itself short of funding. And who suffers the most from this? The people needing treatment, likely the poor you claim to help.

 

JD50

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Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: conjur
And the problem with nationalized healthcare? There are already millions covered under a nationalized healthplan.

Why not offload medical insurance costs from corporations? You profit-loving-at-all-expense types should love that.

Besides, we're the only major industrialized nation w/o national healthcare. Perhaps you find true enjoyment in knowing that nearly 50 million people lack healthcare. You're one sick puppy.

Great argument you have there, we are also the sole superpower and freest (sp?) nation on the planet, should we change that too?

 

her209

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FWIW, how much of the cost is going to go to overhead in a nationalized plan compared to a privatized one? Also, what will this mean for tort reform?
 

Steeplerot

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Mar 29, 2004
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Good, as rove would say, "We have plenty of political capitol", time to move this country into modern ages finally.

*kicks rusty pendulum*
 

theeedude

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Feb 5, 2006
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There are consequences to losing elections. You rightwingers lost this election. American people have spoken.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: conjur
And the problem with nationalized healthcare? There are already millions covered under a nationalized healthplan.

Why not offload medical insurance costs from corporations? You profit-loving-at-all-expense types should love that.

Besides, we're the only major industrialized nation w/o national healthcare. Perhaps you find true enjoyment in knowing that nearly 50 million people lack healthcare. You're one sick puppy.
Great argument you have there, we are also the sole superpower and freest (sp?) nation on the planet, should we change that too?
Sole superpower? Wanna take on China?

Most free nation on the planet? Hmm...illegal spying on Americans, free speech being stamped out, protest groups infiltrated and spied upon, gov't intruding more and more into the bedroom and private lives. Yeah, we're really fighting for our freedoms.
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: d3n
Are you serious, Most of the new Dems are very conservative on many points . Most of the Reps that were booted were northeasters with liberal views. I hope this will mainstream the congress.

Seriously.

This wasn't victory for authoritarianism. This was a victory for fiscal conservatism. Something we need desperately. Something the Repukes lacked pretty much wantonly.

Let this be a lesson.

 

gclg2000

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Jul 12, 2005
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I'm a nursing student.

God help me the day when i get my license and then i work for the government.
 

Balt

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Mar 12, 2000
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If you are going to worry and fret every time you find an article or blog on the web with someone promoting a leftist idea then you are going to have a very long and miserable two years.

That's not to say you will get any sympathy. :p
 

shadow9d9

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The Democrats are not even in power yet and their supporters are already calling for a radical move to the left.

Here is a nice Slate piece ?Time To Socialize Medicine? link
Did anyone see a sign in yesterdays election that points to Americans wanting this to happen?
Two years of ideas like this and Republicans will waltz back into power.
Ideas like this are why so many of us will not vote Democrat. Sure Bush and the Republicans screwed up the war and spent too much money, but I would rather have a lousy Medicare Drug program than socialized medicine. (Would rather have neither.)

Check out this bit where the writer admits the Democrats had no real agenda to get them elected.
But etiquette, if nothing more, requires that the Democrats also put forth some ideas about how they intend to govern, and the evidence suggests they don't have any. It's telling that, in a Washington Post story headlined "Democrats Promise Broad New Agenda," the particulars of what that new agenda happens to be don't appear until the 10th paragraph.
I guess that in the next few weeks and months will we see tons of liberal writers throw out ideas like this. I hope Pelosi and Reid listen to these writers and start talking about ideas like this in congress.

Are you going to be spamming fear mongering messages for the next few years? How about instead of making fear mongering exaggerated PREDICTIONS, you wait until things actually happen... oh wait.. that would simply make too much sense.
 

Art Vandelay

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Jul 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The Democrats are not even in power yet and their supporters are already calling for a radical move to the left.

Here is a nice Slate piece ?Time To Socialize Medicine? link
Did anyone see a sign in yesterdays election that points to Americans wanting this to happen?
Two years of ideas like this and Republicans will waltz back into power.
Ideas like this are why so many of us will not vote Democrat. Sure Bush and the Republicans screwed up the war and spent too much money, but I would rather have a lousy Medicare Drug program than socialized medicine. (Would rather have neither.)

Check out this bit where the writer admits the Democrats had no real agenda to get them elected.
But etiquette, if nothing more, requires that the Democrats also put forth some ideas about how they intend to govern, and the evidence suggests they don't have any. It's telling that, in a Washington Post story headlined "Democrats Promise Broad New Agenda," the particulars of what that new agenda happens to be don't appear until the 10th paragraph.
I guess that in the next few weeks and months will we see tons of liberal writers throw out ideas like this. I hope Pelosi and Reid listen to these writers and start talking about ideas like this in congress.

You hate America and the American people, don't you?

It's a free country, you are free to leave.

Go ahead, move out.

:D

:D

:D

HAH!

:D
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The Democrats are not even in power yet and their supporters are already calling for a radical move to the left.

Here is a nice Slate piece ?Time To Socialize Medicine? link
Did anyone see a sign in yesterdays election that points to Americans wanting this to happen?
Two years of ideas like this and Republicans will waltz back into power.
Ideas like this are why so many of us will not vote Democrat. Sure Bush and the Republicans screwed up the war and spent too much money, but I would rather have a lousy Medicare Drug program than socialized medicine. (Would rather have neither.)

Check out this bit where the writer admits the Democrats had no real agenda to get them elected.
But etiquette, if nothing more, requires that the Democrats also put forth some ideas about how they intend to govern, and the evidence suggests they don't have any. It's telling that, in a Washington Post story headlined "Democrats Promise Broad New Agenda," the particulars of what that new agenda happens to be don't appear until the 10th paragraph.
I guess that in the next few weeks and months will we see tons of liberal writers throw out ideas like this. I hope Pelosi and Reid listen to these writers and start talking about ideas like this in congress.



And what's wrong with socialized medical care? :roll: It's a hell of a lot more worthy of our tax dollars than criminal wars that cost billions and American and foreign civilian lives. Oh that's right you're a right-wing Republican only interested in yourself and stepping over others..nevermind.
 

Rangoric

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Originally posted by: JD50
Great argument you have there, we are also the sole superpower and freest (sp?) nation on the planet, should we change that too?

Why are you talking about Denmark? I thought this thread was about the USA.

Well the "Freest" thing anyways...
 

JD50

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Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Rangoric
Originally posted by: JD50
Great argument you have there, we are also the sole superpower and freest (sp?) nation on the planet, should we change that too?

Why are you talking about Denmark? I thought this thread was about the USA.

Well the "Freest" thing anyways...

Yea, I have no clue how to type that, harp on it all you want, but my point still stands. Saying that we are the only nation that doesn't do this or does do that is not a good argument.

 

JD50

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Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Art Vandelay
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The Democrats are not even in power yet and their supporters are already calling for a radical move to the left.

Here is a nice Slate piece ?Time To Socialize Medicine? link
Did anyone see a sign in yesterdays election that points to Americans wanting this to happen?
Two years of ideas like this and Republicans will waltz back into power.
Ideas like this are why so many of us will not vote Democrat. Sure Bush and the Republicans screwed up the war and spent too much money, but I would rather have a lousy Medicare Drug program than socialized medicine. (Would rather have neither.)

Check out this bit where the writer admits the Democrats had no real agenda to get them elected.
But etiquette, if nothing more, requires that the Democrats also put forth some ideas about how they intend to govern, and the evidence suggests they don't have any. It's telling that, in a Washington Post story headlined "Democrats Promise Broad New Agenda," the particulars of what that new agenda happens to be don't appear until the 10th paragraph.
I guess that in the next few weeks and months will we see tons of liberal writers throw out ideas like this. I hope Pelosi and Reid listen to these writers and start talking about ideas like this in congress.

You hate America and the American people, don't you?

It's a free country, you are free to leave.

Go ahead, move out.

:D

:D

:D

HAH!

:D

What?