First Built (NYC)

[xJ4YCEE3]

Hello Everyone & Happy Easter!! This is My First Built EVER! lol i need help from The MASTER Builders!

1. What YOUR PC will be used for? Gaming (Battlefield4 :biggrin: ) & Photoshop

2. What YOUR budget is? 1,000-1,500 US

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from? U.S (Amazon, Newegg ect..

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. INTEL

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are. NOPE

6. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. i'm not familiar with the term

7. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using? Highest Posible?

8. WHEN do you plan to build it? Before battlefield4 hits stores.

9. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software? Windows 7

NOTE: I Bought The Case I Want To Use For This Built: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

 

[Pardus]

free ipod ?

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

free ipod ?

huh?

 

[Sleepingforest]

So, do you also need a monitor, keyboard, and mouse? And is the case you bought a part of the budget?

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

So, do you also need a monitor, keyboard, and mouse? And is the case you bought a part of the budget?

I'm focusing on the main components first after the built is done i plan to buy the keyboard, mouse ect.

I also want to know if i can use a Sony Bravia HDTV as my monitor? i know my questions are kind of dumb and noob-ish im really new to the building pc scene

yeah the case its part of the budget

 

[Sleepingforest]

Sorry, I should have been more clear: is the budget for the case and everything inside of it, or for everything, including peripherals? And does the fact that you've bought a case mean that your budget is effectively $900-1400?

To answer one of your questions: yes, a TV will work fine as a
monitor, provided you sit sufficiently far away and the video card you get has an HDMI output.

Look at this thread to get an idea of what a $1000-1100 computer should look like, and also for a link to a basic guide on what each part does.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

im looking to spend around 1,500 for everything, i dont see any link in your last post Sleepingforest.

and thanks for the help man

 

[Sleepingforest]

Oh, yeah, I somehow forgot to include the link >_<. I've edited the post, and here's the link.

 

[Ken g6]

NYC presents some specific challenges for PC users: both space and power are expensive. It looks like you don't care about space, but you might care about power. So I suggest getting a good PSU suited to your CPU and especially your graphics card's power. In this case, I would get:

- Whatever Mfenn finds for his $1000 build this round, substituting:
- Rosewill Capstone 450W PSU, $77 with shipping.
- PNY GTX 670, $300 AR

I know the GPU says it "requires" a 550W PSU, but it clearly doesn't if the PSU is good-quality. AMD cards may be a better value but they use more power. And getting a PSU rated higher than what your computer will use wastes power. You have money left over, so if you wanted to SLI, you could get the 650W Capstone PSU for about the same price, along with another GTX 670.

Edit: What's the resolution on your TV? Maybe give us the model number? Even a single 670 may be overkill if it's a 720P TV.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

thanks Sleepinforest & ken_g6 for the help, i still have one question

should i go for a i7 processor or i5? whats the difference?

 

[Sleepingforest]

An i5 CPU has four cores available for processing. An i7 has four cores as well, but also has a special feature called "hyperthreading" that makes its four cores appear to the computer like 8. This does not mean that it is twice as fast. Instead, it means that heavily-threaded programs (ones that are designed to use many cores) can work better on it.

Unless you edit photos or videos, you probably are safe with an i5. The basic rule for telling whether your program needs extra cores: if you have to ask, you don't need it.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

thanks for all the help Sleepingforest! im going to come up with a list and i want you to help me decide!

 

[Sleepingforest]

Sure thing! Just keep in mind that some of your parts may be straight-up inappropriate/overpriced (like the whole Sabertooth series from Asus), so don't get too attached. :awe:

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

Here is my list Sleepingforest, i think im going to go over my budget..

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU: intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

GPU: PNY VCGGTX670XPB GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Powersupply: Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92, SLI Ready, CrossFire Ready, Active - PFC Power Supply

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Retail kit

SSD : Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

OP Drive: ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

what am i missing except for the monitor, mouse and keyboard?

what you do think Sleepingforest??

$1,359.92 (8 Items) without the case, and without shipping....

 

[Sleepingforest]

I think that 16GB RAM is pretty overkill (this 2x4GB set is far better for only $50), and that a $200 i5-3470 is fine for your uses. Your motherboard is also pretty expensive--you can get one with basically the same features for around $80. Those changes should get you down to $1100 or lower before shipping--but then you'll need a copy of Windows, which runs at least $90.

Do you actually play Blurays? If this is just a what-if, it's probably best to just get a normal DVD burner and get a stand-alone Bluray player later if it turns out you actually need.

Also, generally speaking, unless you will be playing mostly Nvidia optimized games, the AMD Radeon 7970 is a better choice.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

let me read your guide again lol

 

[Sleepingforest]

Go for it! It can be hard to absorb in one sitting. Try to at least get the CPU and GPU parts of that guide down internally.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

I think that 16GB RAM is pretty overkill (this 2x4GB set is far better for only $50), and that a $200 i5-3470 is fine for your uses. Your motherboard is also pretty expensive--you can get one with basically the same features for around $80. Those changes should get you down to $1100 or lower before shipping--but then you'll need a copy of Windows, which runs at least $90.

Do you actually play Blurays? If this is just a what-if, it's probably best to just get a normal DVD burner and get a stand-alone Bluray player later if it turns out you actually need.

Also, generally speaking, unless you will be playing mostly Nvidia optimized games, the AMD Radeon 7970 is a better choice.

remember im planning on playing Battlefield 4 and i will be editing photos on this pc im trying to built.

 

[Sleepingforest]

Ah. I'm blind, it seems! In that case, get a Xeon E3-1240 V2, since you are unwilling/unable to overclock. 95% of the performance of the stock i7-3770K for only 85% of the price! You can also save a couple of dollars (we're talking $10-25 here) by getting one of these options for your RAM. Save another $25 by getting this SSD instead. You can also save $40 by dropping Bluray. The motherboard is still a valid swap option.

Total, that's about $150 in savings.

 

[mfenn]

I'd get the E3-1230 V2 instead. 100 MHz isn't worth $25.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

Sleepingforest what do you think of the E3_1230 v2?

 

[Steltek]

I'd get the E3-1230 V2 instead. 100 MHz isn't worth $25.

+1 -- the price differential is actually $35 now at Newegg.

OP, you'll never notice the 100MHZ difference between the two processors for what you are doing with them. The Ivy Bridge Xeons are very good processors that don't happen to overclock well. You aren't overclocking, so they exactly fit your need.

BTW, what part of New York are you in? Are you anywhere near Westbury or Yonkers? The reason I ask is that they have Microcenter stores in both of those cities -- if they are within a decent commute, you can save a significant amount of money by buying your processor/motherboard in-store there due to Microcenter's in-store combo pricing specials.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

+1 -- the price differential is actually $35 now at Newegg.

OP, you'll never notice the 100MHZ difference between the two processors for what you are doing with them. The Ivy Bridge Xeons are very good processors that don't happen to overclock well. You aren't overclocking, so they exactly fit your need..

are they made for servers? becuase on the box it says 'server'... i did a research on the Xeons and i saw reviews of people having problems finding motherboards for this cpu.

im going crazyyyyyy help

im from the bronx, nyc

 

[Steltek]

are they made for servers? becuase on the box it says 'server'... i did a research on the Xeons and i saw reviews of people having problems finding motherboards for this cpu.

im going crazyyyyyy help

im from the bronx, nyc

It is only a matter of labeling - the processors fit the same socket and have essentially the same capabilities. Nothing to worry about.

You need to check out your local Microcenter stores - they have three within driving distance of you (Paterson, NJ and Yonkers, NY appear to be the closest, with Westbury NY being the farthest away?). The discounts you can get by buying a processor/motherboard combo in-store there might really help your budget.

 

[xJ4YCEE3]

It is only a matter of labeling - the processors fit the same socket and have essentially the same capabilities. Nothing to worry about.

You need to check out your local Microcenter stores - they have three within driving distance of you (Paterson, NJ and Yonkers, NY appear to be the closest, with Westbury NY being the farthest away?). The discounts you can get by buying a processor/motherboard combo in-store there might really help your budget.

which motherboard do you think is best for my built?