First ATI 5830 Review (In Chinese)

[Jd007]

Apparently a Chinese website has got hold of an ATI 5830 and reviewed it. Here's the original article link and here's a Google (badly) translated link. It seems to be a detailed and decent review.

Performance wise it seems to be on par with the GTX 275, sometimes slower than it and sometimes faster. The article also mentioned that there are no reference designs for the 5830, so all the cards are going to be custom designed (as see in the photographs on the last page).

Some benchmark results:

 

[happy medium]

950, 5000 overclock? Not bad.
I'm a bit dissapointed with the stock performance. I wanted gtx 285/4890 performance.

I won't pay more then 200$ for this card.

Edit : most of the games they used I don't play anyway.

 

[formulav8]

Yeah the price will decide how good of a card it really is....


Jason

 

[RaistlinZ]

Nice find! Reading it now.

At least it overclocks well. I wonder how the performance compares to an overclocked 5770 though. At $200-$220 this card would be a good value. But I wouldn't pay more than $220 no matter what kind of fancy after-market HSF is put on it (I'm looking at your, Sapphire).

 

[blanketyblank]

Nice. The performance doesn't look half bad though it would be nice to know how it OCs in general not sure with just one review. It's a signficant bump over the 5770 since it can get over 30 fps in Crysis at 1920 x 1200 on its own. Of course pricing will make the biggest difference here. If it's 200 or under it will kill 5770 sales. Over 250 and no one should get it over a 5850.
I'd say somewhere in between there is a good place for it. Expensive enough that you really have to think about it over a 5770, but still cheap enough to consider.

Also what do you mean 4890 performance? This card beats the 4890 OC in 3d mark vantage and Far Cry 2 based on this benchmark:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4890-review-test/16

 

[happy medium]

If they make these with the voltage tweaks enabled like the 5850, I'll buy one.

 

[Qbah]

(...) I wanted gtx 285/4890 performance. (...)

Looks like HD4890+ performance level to me.

 

[cbn]

http://translate.google.com/transla...10/0223/852/000000852552.shtml&sl=zh-CN&tl=en

According to this the TDP is 175 watts.

This is actually higher than HD5850 (151 watts) and closer to HD5870 (188 watts) than I would have guessed.

 

[happy medium]

Looks like HD4890+ performance level to me.

Mabe it's just the review ,but I was thinking more along the lines of beating a 4890 all of the time not just in a few cases. If it don't, it won't get more then 200$ from me.

A overclocked 5770 can beat a 4890 in Far Cry 2 or at least come real close depending on the review site. Thats not impressive.

Heres to hoping. :thumbsup:

 

[RaistlinZ]

Seems silly that this card is slower yet draws more power than a 5850. CrossFire benchmarks will be interesting too, though I'm not sure if performance over an overclocked 5870 would be that great. And a single 5870 is still a cheaper option and uses way less power too. :hmm:

 

[cbn]

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/23/radeon-hd-5830-details-leak/

This article points out HD5830 only has 16 ROPs compared to the 32 ROPs found in HD5850 and HD5870.

Maybe that is what is responsible for the lower than expected performance?

 

[bryanW1995]

I was expecting 4890-level performance. That looks like what we got, and it fills a gaping hole in amd's dx11 lineup. from what I've seen it appears to not just be a harvested 5870 but rather designed to be cheaper (fewer rop's for example). overclockers beware as they are likely to use less expensive components vs 5850 and 5870, however.

edit: computer bottleneck beat me to it on the rop's!

 

[blanketyblank]

Seems silly that this card is slower yet draws more power than a 5850. CrossFire benchmarks will be interesting too, though I'm not sure if performance over an overclocked 5870 would be that great. And a single 5870 is still a cheaper option and uses way less power too. :hmm:

Considering 5770s crossfired can beat a 5870 in almost all cases I expect 5830s crossfired to be a big jump beyond a single overclocked 5870. I do wonder how much slower it would be compared to 5850s crossfired though.

 

[happy medium]

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/23/radeon-hd-5830-details-leak/

This article points out HD5830 only has 16 ROPs compared to the 32 ROPs found in HD5850 and HD5870.

Maybe that is what is responsible for the lower than expected performance?

This part surprized me. More bad news with this chip.

Quote:

Although this isn’t nearly as bad as the pixel fill rate which is down to 12.8 GPixel/s which is less than the HD5770 which manages 13.6 GPixel/s. The Z/Stencil buffer is also slower than the HD5770 by some 3GSamples/s and this is almost half the performance of the HD5850.

 

[Qbah]

I was expecting 4890-level performance. That looks like what we got, and it fills a gaping hole in amd's dx11 lineup. from what I've seen it appears to not just be a harvested 5870 but rather designed to be cheaper (fewer rop's for example). overclockers beware as they are likely to use less expensive components vs 5850 and 5870, however.

edit: computer bottleneck beat me to it on the rop's!

Based on the information floating around, it has the same number of transistors as the HD5850 and HD5870. So my guess is the part with the "missing" 16 ROPs has been deactivated. And nothing was designed specifically to be a HD5830. It's just a severly cut down version of the same die - probably running higher voltage too (reason for the higher power usage). So all the dies that didn't even make the cut to a HD5850, were reused here. Just a guess

 

[evolucion8]

But unless if its clocked down considerably, I don't understand why it would be slower than the HD 4890, both share the same 16 ROP plus the HD 4890 has less stream processors, at the architecture level, both aren't much different, I wonder why.

 

[EnzoLT]

yes the 16 rops is disappointing... this was supposed to be my upgrade but i think ill save up for 5850 and/or fermi

 

[RaistlinZ]

Hm, the 5850 still might be the better value even at $299. Unless these 5830's can be had for under $220 I think. I'm digging the Gigabyte design though.

 

[cbn]

I hope MSRP isn't over $199.

Of course, with Nvidia out of the market with their 200 GTXs ATI may be able to get away with higher prices.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Wow thats a sweet looking video card. Unfortunately they usually end up charging WAY too much for the cards with nicer cooling that it's usually not worth getting them.

 

[Blue Shift]

I'm digging the Gigabyte design though.

Does anyone know why cards tend to always have heat pipes that run downwards when the card is installed? I'd like to see more cards with heat pipes that run up, towards the back of the card.

Oh, and RaistlinZ... I recognize your name and mugshot from the Bioware community forums, and I get the name reference.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Does anyone know why cards tend to always have heat pipes that run downwards when the card is installed? I'd like to see more cards with heat pipes that run up, towards the back of the card.

Oh, and RaistlinZ... I recognize your name and mugshot from the Bioware community forums, and I get the name reference.

I was really concerned about that as well, the heat pipes. I set my computer on it's side to make the pipes face upwards, and if I recall correctly there was barely any difference. As I understand it they have wicks in the pipes that absorb and move the fluid back to the contact area where the heat is.

 

[tokie]

Looks like junk for the price. Better to spend an extra $50 for a 5850.

 

[crisium]

Looks right between the 5770 and 5850. Which means it should sit at $230 (in between $160 and $300 for the 5770 and 5850.

 

[God Mode]

If true, the power consumption would bother me a bit.