First Abortion Clinic Bomber gets the needle tonight! Hooray!

[Howard]

Praise be to Allah!

 

[m2kewl]

hope they give him the dirtest needle

 

[Bitek]

T minus 5 min....

I'm wondering what he's thinking now, if he's still feeling so cocky. Too bad in 10 min he won't realize he made the biggest mistake of his life, when he dies and he fades off to....nothing.

No anything to stand there and say, "you thought what would be happening now? No sorry, all you're going to be doing is rotting."


Too bad it wasn't a more painful death, he deserves 'Ol Sparky methinks.....

 

[Bitek]

Well that should be the end of that.

I'm wondering if he's enjoying his 79 virgins, mansion next to jesus or whatever stupid crap these fanatics believe they will get for thier "virtuous" and murderous acts. What disappoints me is that they will probably die believing they're right, fade to oblivion, and never realize the folly of their acts. Death is not really a punishment for these people (esp if they kill themselves.) Makes you almost want to believe in Hell just so you can feel good knowing they are being a$$ r@ped with chainsaws for all eternity (gee I wonder how the idea got started,)....but then you would have to believe in God, virtue and sin...reward and punishment....Oh NO! The viscious cycle has started again!

Maybe safer to be an aetheist and properly fearful of death.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Kilgor

Sometimes, killing is not wrong.

Just like he thought killing the abortion doctor wasn't wrong, killing him isn't going to bring back the doctor nor did killing the doctor stop any babies from being killed.

It's not about deterrence, revenge, restitution, nor changing the past. It's about society taking a moral stance and saying that certain behavior will result in the ultimate penalty, that certain actions will not be put up with.

 

[pyonir]

YAY!

 

[DainBramaged]

Fvcker deserved it. Wish I could see his face once he dies and goes to hell.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Oh, but I'm going to heaven!

STARKE, Florida (AP) -- An unrepentant Paul Hill boasted Tuesday on the eve of his execution for the shotgun slaying of an abortion doctor: "I expect a great reward in heaven." "More people should act as I have acted," Hill added.

Barring an unlikely last-minute stay, the 49-year-old former minister will be put to death by lethal injection Wednesday evening for the 1994 murders in Pensacola of Dr. John Britton and his escort.

Buh-bye, freak-zealot. May you have a good old time w/the Islamic bombers and other wastes of oxygen that also believe that "great things await me in heaven b/c I killed people!"

May he burn in hell with the other murderous "religious" terrorists. :|

I like this line, though; makes you think:

"We're very concerned that Paul Hill's call for violence may be picked up by any person to whom God speaks," said Abe Bonowitz, the head of Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty. "That could be prevented. It should be."

Ban organized religion? Nah...it's against the Constitution...but it couldn't hurt. It's a thought.

 

[Spike]

"Ban organized religion? Nah...it's against the Constitution...but it couldn't hurt. It's a thought."

Um, yah, that wouldn't hurt... except to force our country into communist-like depths where religions are carried out in secret and people are killed because they say "God is my king"

I, for one, take offense at this. I am a firm believer in God and would qualify myself as a Christian. No, I don't agree with what this dude did and I even think he deserves to get the needle, (I don't expect to see him in Heaven either)

-spike

 

[XZeroII]

Hold on...a doctor kills a person and that is ok; a man kills the doctor, but as punishment, that man must die.

Anyone who thinks that's ok is screwed up

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Hold on...a doctor kills a person and that is ok; a man kills the doctor, but as punishment, that man must die. Anyone who thinks that's ok is screwed up

The problem is that the law does not classify a fetus as a person. Other than that, I'd say your argument is fine.

 

[DT4K]

I don't condone the murder of doctors.
But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions.
If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim.
If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

 

[Stojakapimp]

I JUST LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE DIE!!!!

 

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by: Shanti
I don't condone the murder of doctors.
But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions.
If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim.
If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

Yes but the doctor is only doing as the woman wishes. Shoot the woman!

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: fatbaby

Originally posted by: Shanti
I don't condone the murder of doctors.
But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions.
If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim.
If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

Yes but the doctor is only doing as the woman wishes. Shoot the woman!

So if a woman asks the doctor to kill her 2 year old for her, that is OK ?

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Hold on...a doctor kills a person and that is ok; a man kills the doctor, but as punishment, that man must die. Anyone who thinks that's ok is screwed up

The problem is that the law does not classify a fetus as a person. Other than that, I'd say your argument is fine.

So why is Scott Petersen being charged with TWO murders ?
And when the law said slavery and lynching was legal, that meant it was OK ?

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: XZeroII Hold on...a doctor kills a person and that is ok; a man kills the doctor, but as punishment, that man must die. Anyone who thinks that's ok is screwed up

The problem is that the law does not classify a fetus as a person. Other than that, I'd say your argument is fine.

So why is Scott Petersen being charged with TWO murders ? And when the law said slavery and lynching was legal, that meant it was OK ?

That would be CA - not FL.

Not saying that abortion is ok. Slavery was legal, but viewed as a necessary evil. I think that many view abortion in the same light.

I'm not sure that lynching was ever legal.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Shanti
I don't condone the murder of doctors. But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions. If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim. If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

So is it a numbers game? We balance right and wrong based on the net number of sins committed. Interesting.

 

[Vic]

"Eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind."

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Shanti
I don't condone the murder of doctors.
But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions.
If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim.
If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

Exactly. He thinks he was saving hundreds of babies. I wonder though if he was as happy about killing that doctor as MikeD is to see him die. Vengance is an ugly emotion which percipitates violence. Personally I see no difference between the action and the lust for it on a psychological level.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Shanti
I don't condone the murder of doctors. But I can also fully understand the reasoning and self-justification that Hill used when deciding on his actions. If someone is about to shoot a 1 day old baby in the head and you intervene and kill that person, you are doing something valiant and honorable by preventing the murder of an innocent victim. If you believe that a baby is a person even before it is born, which seems obvious to me, then you can justify the killing of the doctor as the same thing. Preventing the murder of an innocent victim.

So is it a numbers game? We balance right and wrong based on the net number of sins committed. Interesting.

No, it's not about the numbers.
It's about defending the innocent.
If someone is about to shoot your child and you kill that person, is that a sin? No.
It is legal and moral to kill someone if that is what it takes to prevent them from killing someone else.
Hill believed he was protecting innocent children from their impending murder.
Whether or not you agree with him, in his own mind, his motives were pure and good.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: XZeroII Hold on...a doctor kills a person and that is ok; a man kills the doctor, but as punishment, that man must die. Anyone who thinks that's ok is screwed up

The problem is that the law does not classify a fetus as a person. Other than that, I'd say your argument is fine.

So why is Scott Petersen being charged with TWO murders ? And when the law said slavery and lynching was legal, that meant it was OK ?

That would be CA - not FL.

Not saying that abortion is ok. Slavery was legal, but viewed as a necessary evil. I think that many view abortion in the same light.

I'm not sure that lynching was ever legal.

The whole reason Strom Thurmond was controversial was that he disagreed with the federal government passing laws that infringed upon a states right to allow lynchings. And that was in the 50's.

Before the civil war, slaves were considered property and as such, could be hung for trying to escape.

 

[Tash]

Should all of congress be charged at a world court tribunal for crimes against humanity?

 

[Ime]

:Q

*slowly backs out of thread*

 

[Amorphus]

okay, can I differentiate between MURDER and KILLING?

KILLING is just causing someone to cease to live.

MURDER, on the other hand, is wrongful/unlawful killing.

see, there is that ONE important clause in the definition of "murder" - the WRONGFUL/UNLAWFUL killing.

in this day and age, sadly, right and wrong is "your own choice", and the law may not be correct.

I am not glad to see this man die for his mistake, and I wish he could've at least been brought around with reason (I am a convervative right-wing Christian, I can think of many arguments to not kill the abortionist). However, that said, with any crime, there is a punishment, and one must face up to that, and so must he. At the time of this typing, this man may already be dead. Still I hope for his soul.

On the other hand, I still do believe that abortion is wrong - but I believe the more effective solution would be to appeal to the mothers to act responsibly. Killing one doctor only makes way for more profit for another one. There are no real "rewards" for killing that abortionist, because his clientele would just seek other practitioners.




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Oh, and MichaelD - take your pretentious atheist arrogance elsewhere. it is not needed, nor wanted.